Stevelewis Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 (edited) Just had 009 news drop thro' the door Oct 17 issue Dundas models are advertisng that they have stock of Heljan 9950 MW loco at £170 just a few left at this price no more until 2018. Qtr 1 or later so if any one interested..................... Personally I will not be ordering. EDIT Oh Yes I will ( Have done!) Edited! Edited September 27, 2017 by Stevelewis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertiedog Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Well..... the likelihood of purchasing any Heljan is fading away rapidly........ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted October 2, 2017 Author Share Posted October 2, 2017 Quick update the loco I ordered failed within a few minutes of running and has since been returned to Dundas Models its reported in the Heljan thread, I have also learned from NGRM forum that a member there has also returned his recently purchased loco as faulty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Smith Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 If I was Heljan I would have recalled all unsold examples.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted October 31, 2017 Author Share Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) If I was Heljan I would have recalled all unsold examples.... You would have thought that would have been an appropriate step to take, but maybe logistically difficult, there are some I have heard of who bought the MW loco but have yet to actually run them! There are still locos being listed occasionally on eBay, and some retailers still have them for sale Some owners have locos that are running fine still, I thought my 2nd failed loco was going to be OK as it ran for at least 20 hours before the valve gear came apart, the 3rd one lasted 15 to 20 minutes. Such a shame because it is a very nice loco, with an excellent chassis capable of smooth powerful performance Edited October 31, 2017 by Stevelewis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete williams Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 I also bought one , from the same supplier as stevelewis. Ran ok during testing, but on close inspection with a lense,before chip fitting , found that the triangular pivot pin on the n/s valvegear was never fitted into it's hole in the chassis, also the threads for the pony truck pivots were either overtightended and stripped or had been tapped out oversize- anyway they would not grip and just spun. The loco was returned the following monday. Got a message back that all the other engines were in a similar condition. Never got the cost of postage refunded, though ! Also got a email from hattons, this evening- apparently some of the latest batch are with Heljan for testing, they SHOULD be with the dealers in september. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Apologies if this has been dealt with before, but I am perpetually teetering on the brink of a narrow gauge adventure, and had it not been for commitments in the form of my current standard gauge project, I would have bough one or two of the Heljan L&B Manning Wardles. Since then I have heard that the first batch were mechanically very poor, but that the subsequent batch were OK. Without wanting to appear unduly negative, just how much of a car-crash are these models mechanically? It the subsequent batch(es) is/are OK, which are the ones to go for and which to avoid, please? Frankly, coming across things such as this does not fill me with confidence: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Heljan-99501-009-L-B-Yeo-Spares-Repairs/273262699716?hash=item3f9fb9e4c4:m:mo1ELZbdHDBBwnXn79ia_mA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted June 6, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 6, 2018 They were withdrawn and a totally new batch are due in September (ish). There was a relatively high failure rate due to the factory assembly rather than the actual design from what I've seen of several models. Those of us who got good ones are very happy with them. It appears either poor glue, insufficient glue, wrong type of glue or possibly oil contamination on crank pins might have been the cause of the valve gear failures. The pony trucks sometimes derailed on any track twists because there was insufficient play to allow them to move and the pickups could add to the problem if they had rough edges. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 They were withdrawn and a totally new batch are due in September (ish). There was a relatively high failure rate due to the factory assembly rather than the actual design from what I've seen of several models. Those of us who got good ones are very happy with them. It appears either poor glue, insufficient glue, wrong type of glue or possibly oil contamination on crank pins might have been the cause of the valve gear failures. The pony trucks sometimes derailed on any track twists because there was insufficient play to allow them to move and the pickups could add to the problem if they had rough edges. Thanks Paul. so, provided that they are not all sold out on a pre-order basis, it seems from what you say that I could plump for one of the September batch with a reasonable degree of confidence. Thank you. James Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Nile Posted June 8, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 8, 2018 As you have the right to return it in any case, you might as well. Finding one still available to pre-order might be a challenge, but some people have cancelled to it's worth a try. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted June 9, 2018 Author Share Posted June 9, 2018 As you have the right to return it in any case, you might as well. Finding one still available to pre-order might be a challenge, but some people have cancelled to it's worth a try. ArcadiaRail Shaw 01706882900 I believe still has a few not yet presold ( well at least 2 because I have cancelled mine as other things are taking precedence) Can I suggest that you telephone Tim (rather than email as he does not always get a chance to respond being a 1 man business) and I am sure you will get an excellent price as he always matches the box shifters. And in many cases he gets stock days before them! Tim is closed ALL DAY Tuesday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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