RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted October 18, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 18, 2017 Hi Phil I did not realise it is nearly four years since you first put this plan up on the forum. Are you still using this as you layout basis? I would think he is looking at the Midland being able to go in a straighter line and the chord towards Worcester being more of a left-hand turn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted October 18, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 18, 2017 Will do a conceptual sketch tonight which should clarify...I hope! Cheers Phil 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted October 18, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 18, 2017 This is nothing more than rough conceptual of the proposed scenic area..... I did say rough.... Phil 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taigatrommel Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 I did have in mind some elaborate solutions to the storage sidings, but then I thought of something simpler. To my shame, I don't know what direction is up or down in Worcester, I presume up is towards Oxford. Having the Worcester yard higher than Gloucester enables a flyover for the OW&W across the Gloucester tracks, and should minimise conflicting moves. A line at the very back could descend to meet the Gloucester lines before the goods loop diverges. I think having the OW&W cross from the outermost side of the storage yard boards would help in having curves as wide as possible for better running. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MarshLane Posted October 20, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 20, 2017 Phil, Not an expert in any way shape or form, and my modeling knowledge is nothing in comparison to what you’ve done, but if your thinking of servos for point control have you considered the Megapoints system? You could have push button panels for setting routes with that, and because of how it works there are only two wires from the panel to the first MP servo controller, then two from that one to the next, ie minimum wiring. One DCC connection can also control 190 odd servos so you get the best of both worlds. Just a thought. Rich Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted October 26, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 26, 2017 (edited) Any more news? Have you ordered baseboards already? Is 5' wide an absolute maximum? What do you think is the maximum board size that you can transport/get in and out of layout room? Reason for asking is the idea illustrated (very roughly!) on the attached.Scan0060.pdf Edited October 26, 2017 by Joseph_Pestell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wibble Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Any more news? Have you ordered baseboards already? Is 5' wide an absolute maximum? What do you think is the maximum board size that you can transport/get in and out of layout room? Reason for asking is the idea illustrated (very roughly!) on the attached. Zero downloads (and I haven't got permission to view it either) suggests something's not right there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted October 26, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 26, 2017 (edited) Zero downloads (and I haven't got permission to view it either) suggests something's not right there Thanks. I should have tested it. I will have a go at doing it some other way. I know that some file types don't work here. Edit: Loading the pdf scan has worked - sort of. For some reason, three lines have appeared from nowhere. Anyway, the idea is that only the Midland should be "roundy-roundy" with separate storage yards on rear boards. The OWW is end to end with fiddleyards behind the scenicked bit and a rat-run between them. The idea is that it allows all rakes to be worked in both directions and gives plenty of storage roads without the boards being either enormous or some of the storage yards being bi-level. It also means that the OWW could be operated without putting up the whole layout. Edited October 26, 2017 by Joseph_Pestell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted October 26, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 26, 2017 (edited) Thanks for thoughts Joseph - and thanks for spending time on this. So looking at plan as drawn, and I know its not to scale.... We really cant go bigger than 5ft boards as that will defeat the object of the build - lighter construction. Not restricted by getting in and out of any room as layout is stored on board edges in integral garage. So as you have drawn.... Getting a fiddle yard - which has to be able to accommodate 10ft trains - on the front scenic boards means that the minimum radius curve to get around through 180 degrees as you have drawn would be 30" - but more likely 24". Hoping to preserve sweeping curves of 60" radius - although happy to take 30" off the scenic area. So if the track went right to board edges that would be 90" to get through 180 degrees - so really has to force the fiddle yards behind the operating well, sorry! We cant go any sharper, see issues on http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/116076-Hornby-announce-mk1-fo-and-bso/page-10 post 227 Taigatrommel's sketch is more likely to deliver except I am trying to avoid the tracks across the operating well so both circuits will probably have to go around at the ends of the layout - and run behind the backscene to get there Thanks for all the input everyone - hoping to get to see Elite baseboards next week for their input. Will feed back.... Phil Edited October 26, 2017 by Phil Bullock 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted October 27, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) I had sort of assumed that the 5' scenic width would not be all one board but split lengthwise, apart perhaps, for the board where the OWW passes over the Midland. That post on the FO/BSO thread is interesting and shows that the rtr producers have still not got their act together on some of the basics. I do agree with you about the importance of close-coupling of corridor stock. Edited October 27, 2017 by Joseph_Pestell 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 (edited) https://hattonsimages.blob.core.windows.net/products/35-501_3177543_Qty1_1.jpg Whilst scrolling through the forthcoming releases of Bachmann page on Hatton's website, I instantly recognised the location of the photo linked above. One for the Cotswold route Phil? (Mind, it's a bit pricey) Edited November 3, 2017 by SVRlad 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted December 16, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 16, 2017 https://hattonsimages.blob.core.windows.net/products/35-501_3177543_Qty1_1.jpg Whilst scrolling through the forthcoming releases of Bachmann page on Hatton's website, I instantly recognised the location of the photo linked above. One for the Cotswold route Phil? (Mind, it's a bit pricey) Found the new thread! You can still do a lot with the old Lima models, lot more work but still give a good result. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted December 16, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 16, 2017 Well spotted Liam! Apologies had missed that post up till now. Probably a bit later than our core era - units (and there were very few!) on the Cotswold line were just as likely to be Tyseley based, so a 116 probably favourite for us - and a 120 on the Gloucester line And no doubt the Lima route would be cheaper....sometimes comes down to available time though Phil 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted December 16, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 16, 2017 Well spotted Liam! Apologies had missed that post up till now. Probably a bit later than our core era - units (and there were very few!) on the Cotswold line were just as likely to be Tyseley based, so a 116 probably favourite for us - and a 120 on the Gloucester line And no doubt the Lima route would be cheaper....sometimes comes down to available time though Phil That reminds me I have to finish my Tyseley 116 still have DMS and cab mods to do Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted March 13, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 13, 2018 Some nice footage around the 2 min mark https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsVfjt8pzXM Phil 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 My Bachmann BR liveried Pannier is at your service (but would need a decoder first).... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Downendian Posted March 14, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 14, 2018 (edited) Terrific find Phil, there's later in the footage the old MR route from Bristol to Bath, including Staple Hill, Mangotsfield, Oldland Common, Bitton and the old SDJR shed at Bath. I don't recall seeing any film of this before. The coaching stock was in Green, so I suspect it would have eventually made its way down the S&D. What a wonderful old grimy railway it was in 1964, under a decade before I started spotting. Neil Edited March 14, 2018 by Downendian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigwife007 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Some nice footage around the 2 min mark https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsVfjt8pzXM Phil Thanks for sharing this one. Really shocked on how few if any passengers where seen on the platforms at any of the stations. Must watch again I’m sure I didn’t see one Dan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted March 14, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 14, 2018 Thanks for sharing this one. Really shocked on how few if any passengers where seen on the platforms at any of the stations. Must watch again I’m sure I didn’t see one Dan The lack of passengers was why so many of the stations were closed. Very easy nowadays to moan about all those closures back then but this film is a stark reminder about just how busy a lot of the railway wasn't in those times, unfortunately. However it was for all its interests something of a leap from running into Gloucester in one frame to leaving Temple Meads in the next one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted March 14, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 14, 2018 Some nice footage around the 2 min mark https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsVfjt8pzXM Phil All nice footage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted March 14, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 14, 2018 Thanks for sharing this one. Really shocked on how few if any passengers where seen on the platforms at any of the stations. Must watch again I’m sure I didn’t see one Dan The lack of passengers was why so many of the stations were closed. Very easy nowadays to moan about all those closures back then but this film is a stark reminder about just how busy a lot of the railway wasn't in those times, unfortunately. However it was for all its interests something of a leap from running into Gloucester in one frame to leaving Temple Meads in the next one If there wasn't a train due there wouldn't be? Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wibble Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 If there wasn't a train due there wouldn't be? Mike. I'm not so sure about that one Mr W. There's barely any space on the Hornsey Bdy platforms for any more passengers, and they're still there when the trains have gone! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug002 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 YouTube video reminds me of some cycling I did in the Bristol area in spring 2016...yes,I have cycled through Staple Hill Tunnel! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted March 15, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 15, 2018 I'm not so sure about that one Mr W. There's barely any space on the Hornsey Bdy platforms for any more passengers, and they're still there when the trains have gone! Railway would not make much money just selling platform tickets at 1d a time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted August 30, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 30, 2018 So after much machinaction funding is in place.... Time to go and talk to Elite baseboards... Phil 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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