Oliver Rails Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) We are pleased to announce a new limited edition exclusive model:RAILS LIMITEDDUCHESS OF HAMILTONR3597LMS CORONATION CLASS 4-6-2 STEAM LOCOMOTIVE NO.46229 DCC READYONLY 250 PRODUCEDORDER YOURS NOW FOR£189.99Due Mid-November. Based on the popularity of the latest Hornby Duchess locomotives pre-ordering is highly recommended Fancy adding more realism?Then why not have your model professionally weathered. Choose from Light, Medium or End of life heavy weathering.VIEW HEREOur professional custom weathering service is available on this model, simply add when purchasing the locomotive Edited October 31, 2017 by Oliver Rails 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 A Semi! Yippee! Jason 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Is it correct that the loco number 46229 is used shouod it not have been 6229 the LMS number? Unless I have missed something somewhere! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Rails Posted October 31, 2017 Author Share Posted October 31, 2017 Its based on the June 1948 version where during transition from LMS to BR it was in the LMS post-war lined black livery but carried the number BR 46229. A couple of images show it here: 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) Is it correct that the loco number 46229 is used shouod it not have been 6229 the LMS number? Unless I have missed something somewhere! It's correct. Even the preserved version carried this livery (on one side) before it was restreamlined. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LMS_Princess_Coronation_Class_6229_Duchess_of_Hamilton https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LMS_Coronation_Class Jason Edited October 31, 2017 by Steamport Southport Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) It's correct. Even the preserved version carried this livery (on one side) before it was restreamlined. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LMS_Princess_Coronation_Class_6229_Duchess_of_Hamilton Jason Thanks Jason, what was on the other side!?? I remember seeing 46229 a few times on running in turns when I was at primary school along with many others of the class, slowly passing the school as we lined up to 'Go In' at 9-00am Edited October 31, 2017 by Stevelewis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted October 31, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 31, 2017 This is a top class brilliant choice.......order on way.Definitely a war baby special 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) Thanks Jason, what was on the other side!?? I remember seeing 46229 a few times on running in turns when I was at primary school along with many others of the class, slowly passing the school as we lined up to 'Go In' at 9-00aml It still had it's BR Maroon on the other. It was repainted for Steam Railway and it's readers who sponsored the restreamlining and displayed at a Tyseley Open Day. Some photos here, although at the open day it had LMS numbers. http://www.nrm.org.uk/OurCollection/LocomotivesAndRollingStock/CollectionItem?objid=1976-7000 Jason Edited October 31, 2017 by Steamport Southport Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D400 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Now I've noticed a pattern here... Rails seem to be commissioning models of National Collection locos in alternate liveries... while at the same time Locomotion commission the same locos in other liveries... Does this mean we are about to get 46229 from Locomotion as well I wonder.... Bruce Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Chamby Posted October 31, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 31, 2017 Wow that looks nice. I assume that this is how City of Bradford would have looked during the 1948 locomotive exchange trials? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Midland Mole Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 I assume this is the older tooling rather than the new due to the sloped boiler? Alex Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Now I've noticed a pattern here... Rails seem to be commissioning models of National Collection locos in alternate liveries... while at the same time Locomotion commission the same locos in other liveries... Does this mean we are about to get 46229 from Locomotion as well I wonder.... Bruce Possibly. It may be a way around having the minimum amount of pre orders for limited editions. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Chamby Posted October 31, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 31, 2017 I assume this is the older tooling rather than the new due to the sloped boiler? Alex The handrail knobs and the presence of rivet detail on the top of the boiler casing suggest it is new tooling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Midland Mole Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) On second thoughts as much as I REALLY want this, Stanier, Atholl and the H Class coming at once is going to drain me dry. Shame, such a beautiful loco. Alex Edited October 31, 2017 by Midland Mole 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted October 31, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 31, 2017 Happily that sloping smokebox is a real turn off for me and its way out of period anyway. If they were to offer 46229 post 1960 and/or as mainline running in the '80's in Hornby's luscious BR maroon - well, then we'd be talking ! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Is it correct that the loco number 46229 is used shouod it not have been 6229 the LMS number? Unless I have missed something somewhere! 6229 was one of the last streamliners, having its casing removed in December 1947. I think there was another being de-streamlined at the same time. 6243 City of Lancaster was not de-streamlined until about 18 months later. I am not sure when it emerged Crewe as a semi for the first time. It may well have been in early 1948. I am not sure when it was decided how to renumber the fleet either. The paintwork would have been fresh when it was decided to prefix ex-LMS locos with a 4 & it may have even been renumbered early enough that BR had not yet decided how to decorate their tenders. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) 6229 was one of the last streamliners, having its casing removed in December 1947. I think there was another being de-streamlined at the same time. 6243 City of Lancaster was not de-streamlined until about 18 months later. I am not sure when it emerged Crewe as a semi for the first time. It may well have been in early 1948. I am not sure when it was decided how to renumber the fleet either. The paintwork would have been fresh when it was decided to prefix ex-LMS locos with a 4 & it may have even been renumbered early enough that BR had not yet decided how to decorate their tenders. All the dates are in the links in post #5 Jason Edited October 31, 2017 by Steamport Southport Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Midland Mole Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 I, uhhh .....damn it Rails..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 All the dates are in the links in post #5 Jason I had probably read that article several times in the past too. Oops. Looking at the article, it was probably withdrawn as a streamliner in December 47 & appeared as a semi in Jan 48 in 1946 black. I can't imagine the LMS removed the casing & let it run unpainted for a month. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Rails Posted October 31, 2017 Author Share Posted October 31, 2017 I assume this is the older tooling rather than the new due to the sloped boiler? Alex Hi. Thanks for your order. I can confirm it is the new tooling. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 We've had soft porn references on the Oxford Dean thread and on here we have a semi. What is happening to this site That is a seriously nice model though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman7 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 I assume this is the older tooling rather than the new due to the sloped boiler? Alex I think we can safely assume that the new tooling has been designed to allow all variations of the City/Duchess to be accommodated. They've only just started using it so I would expect many other versions still to come. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Midland Mole Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) I think we can safely assume that the new tooling has been designed to allow all variations of the City/Duchess to be accommodated. They've only just started using it so I would expect many other versions still to come. Yes it certainly appears to be the case, will be nice to see what we get in the future from Hornby and retailers. Alex Edited October 31, 2017 by Midland Mole Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 I, uhhh .....damn it Rails..... Rails order.png I notice you have not had it gift wrapped!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted October 31, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 31, 2017 Yes it certainly appears to be the case, will be nice to see what we get in the future from Hornby and retailers. Alex Brace yourself,Alex.I fear more pain is in the offing........... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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