Popular Post Jwnewall Posted November 7, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2017 I have lived near Weymouth for about 13 years now and have been interested in the harbour tramway only in the last 3. After recently completing my first test layout, the Kingbarrow Railway Centre, I think its the right chance to build the layout that's always been in my head. PLEASE READ: This thread is about the layout of the real place, but can I please stress that there are already Weymouth Tramway modelling threads and talks out there. I do not want this thread to be used to discuss about the tramway, arguing about a resurrection, or the usual "I remember seeing this when I was a kid'. I want to keep this thread clean to what i'm modelling, so information on the part of the line i'm recreating is fine as long as its actually about what I'm doing. With that out of the way, here's a little bit of backstory to gather an idea about the Weymouth Tramway. The tramway was opened in 1865 along with the Weymouth & Portland Railway next to it. The harbour line served the harbour which was located a mile from the main station at Weymouth. Passenger services started in 1889 and despite a short cease in services throughout the wars, freight services ceased in 1972 and regular passenger services in 1987. Special railtours carried on up until the 2nd May 1999, and the branchline remains in a 'Permanent Out of Use status', despite reports in 2016 saying they have closed it. The section I will be modelling will be Cousins corner. Here, a large warehouse and various businesses were situated on the harbour corner wedged in-between Commercial Road and the town lifting bridge. The tramway first started out on a straight section and took a really sharp turn on approach towards the town bridge, but in 1938 a large curve was built to accommodate larger rolling stock, and finished in 1939. My layout will be built how it would have looked like just after the war, so the site looks well used and doesn't look too 'bright and clean'. These pictures are featured from John Lucking's book on the tramway, and various pictures from the internet. Here's the original track plan of what I will be modelling, also a comparison with the track layout before the large curve was put in. a 1956 railtour. I will have cars and goods placed in the middle of the curve and inner track to fill up space. The section heading towards the town bridge. The curve before the new one was built, but is a great picture for modelling the buildings The small coal transfer area which will be an interesting asset. The curve right after construction. The curve after paving, this is how I will have mine modelled. I will try to include a crane even if its just out of the period! The Model Version: I will try and keep the same feel of a long sweeping curve in model form, however due to the space available it might have to be slightly lighter than it would be if it was properly scaled down. It wouldn't be to the point that its 3rd radius curves, but enough to fit in my room nicely! Here's the plan,using the illustration because i'm lazy, using the brown lines being the baseboard and blue the backscene. The rolling stock will be easy o come across and I already have one of Heljan's locomotives in the form of 1369, which is the sole survivor of Weymouth Tramway locomotives, even though it worked on the tramway the shortest at just 2 years! I will like to break some annoying news however, this layout isn't being built anytime soon. I have just finished my heritage layout so I don't want to jump to another project yet. I would like to display it at next years exhibition which is at the end of next October, so the baseboards will most likely be finished at the start of 2019! I can make some of the buildings and collect stock in the meantime so this page will be active. I just wanted to create this thread in advance so I can keep the idea strong and get people interested in it. In the mean time I will be testing the poly filler effect on my O gauge ironing board layout, linked below! If you have any questions, ideas, improvements, or anything else then please feel free to comment below, but I just want to keep the content related to my build please. I can't wait to hear what people have to say about this project. 26 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapford34102 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Interesting,always considered this section the "easiest" bit to model with the builders yard at one end and the Town Bridge at the other making the scenic breaks. Will keep an eye on this. Stu 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike2steam Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 (edited) Good luck, look forward to possibly seeing it at the Weymouth exhibition in the future ?? Keep us posted with progress. Edited November 8, 2017 by bike2steam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jwnewall Posted November 8, 2017 Author Share Posted November 8, 2017 I think I mentioned that layout is set just after the war, so from 1945-1956 but will feature some assets from surrounding eras like a crane which was taken down after the new curve was put in place. The rolling stock I will use will have leeway as I love the GWR on the sides of locos, and after the war the loco's had no branding so that's one asset I will include on the stock. I'm not sure the types of coaches yet, however I do own the old 1900's coaches but that would be a bit too far fetched for the layout era. And its in OO. Just the easiest route really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapford34102 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 I love the GWR on the sides of locos, Somewhere in a book, possibly Lucking, there's a photo of a 1366 with GWR just visible through the clag and taken in the 50's. Can look if needed. Stu 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wigan Wallgate OO Gauge Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 great plan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinZaPint Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Enjoyed seeing Kingbarrow at Weymouth and will follow this project with interest. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwnewall Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 Had a small test session tonight to see how big the plan will be in real life, and i'm happy to say it wont be much bigger than Kingbarrow, as this plan on the floor spans the length of Kingbarrow's scenic section. I wont be able to have the layout up at all times, as it would need to sit on a 6ft foldup table which is the limit in my room. I can split up the section from the points to the town bridge scene and store that underneath the table. Would like to note that the point in the foreground will not be used, instead a slightly curved one will be used to keep the long sweeping curve smooth. Here's on on Ebay and hope they are easy to come by! Will be getting pictures of the real thing tomorrow. Won't help much as the area has changed a lot but still worth a look. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Hudson Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 Good luck with this, it's a charming prototype. I love those prototype photos on the thread. Andrew 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwnewall Posted November 10, 2017 Author Share Posted November 10, 2017 (edited) A quick trip to see the real basis of the model railway, which is based at the end of Commercial Road and up from the Town Bridge on the 'quay corner' where the fishing boats fade out and sailing boats are kept beyond the corner in the quay side. Not sure if some are original structures but none the less a great nod to the past. The beggining of the curve taken from the town bridge. The town bridge was rebult in 1930, so its great that I will ahve the exact stucture that appeared in my railways era! Just wont include all that signage. Ahh simpler times... Exactly where the curved point was placed. Think this was removed in the late 70's. But the track still lives under the tarmac! Seen here when the road was being re-tarmacked in 2016. The original route where the Cousins sidings were placed. This was removed in the late 70's and the edge of the quay pre 1938. The long curving section, been the same since 1938, but believe the rails have been replaced in the late 70's. The old coal loading point, which was removed not long after the war. The site seen from the multi-story car park. And for a bonus, my model of 1369 seen on the harbour branchline a few months ago! Edited November 10, 2017 by Jwnewall 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Tim Dubya Posted November 11, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 11, 2017 Photo from Facebook for you. "Street Running .. Weymouth... A Class 04 cruises past a petrol station with a Waterloo service in 1962. Photo .S Sponheimer via Cornwall Rly Society". 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
81A Oldoak Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Photo from Facebook for you. FB_IMG_1510444032016.jpg "Street Running .. Weymouth... A Class 04 cruises past a petrol station with a Waterloo service in 1962. Photo .S Sponheimer via Cornwall Rly Society". Great photo. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike2steam Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 "Street Running .. Weymouth... A Class 04 cruises past a petrol station with a Waterloo service in 1962. 'Cruises', I like it, a sedate crawl more like, given the poor braking on those diesel shunters a need for emergency braking could be interesting !? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Re6/6 Posted November 12, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 12, 2017 Custom House Quay taken in August 2012 on our walk to The Nothe to watch the Olympic sailing. All nicely done up for the event. Strangely l recall seeing some newly painted yellow boxes prohibiting entry onto the tracks for a non-existant train service! 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwnewall Posted November 16, 2017 Author Share Posted November 16, 2017 Came across this photo on Ebay of 1367 rounding the corner in colour. I love having my layouts feature a lot of colour and variety and hopefully this proves I can do the same on this layout! 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
81A Oldoak Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Came across this photo on Ebay of 1367 rounding the corner in colour. I love having my layouts feature a lot of colour and variety and hopefully this proves I can do the same on this layout! s-l1600 (1).jpg This is a great photo, but make sure your colours are subdued. The only bright spots I tend to permit on scenery are telephone and pillar boxes, fire buckets, semaphore signal arms (especially the enamelled variety) and posters. Hopefully, this photo of my 0 Gauge layout Cwm Bach illustrates what I try to achieve. Regards, CK 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted November 17, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 17, 2017 Came across this photo on Ebay of 1367 rounding the corner in colour. I love having my layouts feature a lot of colour and variety and hopefully this proves I can do the same on this layout! s-l1600 (1).jpg Facinating picture, must be mid 50's at least going by some of the cars. But still an old luton van in use dating from the early 30's. (Morris-Commercial?) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Tim Dubya Posted November 19, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 19, 2017 (edited) More from Farcebook: Edited November 20, 2017 by Tim Dubya 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted November 20, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 20, 2017 More from Farcebook: FB_IMG_1511135683747.jpg FB_IMG_1511136052079.jpg Can I please nick this for the old cars thread? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Tim Dubya Posted November 20, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 20, 2017 (edited) On 20/11/2017 at 09:26, PhilJ W said: Can I please nick this for the old cars thread? They are from Facebook, unfortunately I can't remember where. Edited July 16, 2020 by Tim Dubya Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted November 20, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 20, 2017 Lovely photo. Great range of 50s & 60s cars. And I had not seen a pic with a 2MT on the quay before. Like what the OP is doing here but it would make an even better layout in 0. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwnewall Posted November 20, 2017 Author Share Posted November 20, 2017 Would like to say I don't want much to do with the quay station as its from the other end of the line, try and keep it within the section that i'm modelling. The pictures were featured on the Disused Stations FB group and on their website. I'm not a car fanatic myself but I do get interested when I see a classic car about. Oxford Dicast have released 60's car's the most so I think I wont have trouble finding any! This layout would be great in O gauge, what layout isn't better if it was O gauge? Anyways, I have just enough space in my room so it was my only option. I am building a small O gauge quayside which is something similar! (linked below). I saw an N gauge version of the quay station on Ebay but other than that no one has built the quayside in miniature before, but if you want to built the whole line, which is only a mile long, it will still be pretty big in N gauge. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted November 20, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 20, 2017 (edited) They are from Facebook, unfortunately I can remember where. Not a problem, click on Multiquote, go to the thread you want to post it on and the 'Reply to quoted posts' should come up. Sometimes it doesn't appear though but it seems to work on others. EDIT it worked. Edited November 20, 2017 by PhilJ W Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted November 21, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 21, 2017 Found this on you tube:- 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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