RMweb Gold tractionman Posted November 8, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 8, 2017 Looks good: Railway Modeller, December 2017 – vol 68 No.806 TWO FREE EXTRAS WITH THIS ISSUE! Exclusive Metcalfe 4mm scale card kit and Parkside wagon kit catalogue The Metcalfe card kit builds up into a coal merchant's office; the Parkside range (now under the Peco Group umbrella) is illustrated with colour photographs for the first time. RAILWAY OF THE MONTH Llangerisech A layout in 2FS, set in mid-Wales and with the impressive station building (a model of that at Llanidloes) as its centrepiece. Nigel Ashton explains all. PLAN OF THE MONTH The climb to Woodhead Graham Nicholas was set three criteria by his client for a layout project – LNER, main line and in the hills. An OO gauge trans-Pennine-based project is now under way. SCALE DRAWINGS 20hp Simplex Peco Design Engineer David Malton built an O-14 model of one of the fleet he knew on the former Abbey Light Railway; these 7mm drawings will aid a replacement. PROJECT OF THE MONTH A BR Hiab fitted lorry A 1990s-period service vehicle, constructed in 4mm scale from Road Transport Images components and part of a Herpa kit by Mark Darragh. FEATURES Passage to Penmaenpool In conversation with editor Steve Flint, master structure modeller Geoff Taylor reveals his influences and journey through the hobby to his current 4mm scale layout. Bachmann PO modifications A recent ready-to-run release by one of the major manufacturers – in a Settle & Carlisle area livery – is given a gentle makeover by Ian Nuttall Cadham Bay At nearly 40' long, the latest OO exhibition layout is the biggest to be created by Glenrothes MRC. Member Stephen Taylor describes how it came about. Bristol St Philips Rob Mills describes this model of the erstwhile Midland Railway station, situated not far from the better known Temple Meads, built in 4mm by the Thornbury & South Gloucestershire MRC. Tylwyth Teg John White reports on this, the third incarnation of his O-16.5 layout, operated by him and his crew regularly at his home in Western Australia. Modifying Peco points Peter J Dennis was faced with a dilemma when needing specific pieces of pointwork for his N gauge layout; he chose to adapt items to suit his purpose. Oxthorne A compact rural terminus in N gauge, constructed by James Bowden; two firsts for him in the build were the use of DCC and static grass. James Street A photographic preview of this extensive N gauge layout by Steve Wright, which measures 20' x 11' and is booked to be at the Warley Show at the NEC. Lancaster Green Ayre This work-in-progress O gauge recreation of the Midland's station by Jamie Guest will make a one-off appearance at the NEC before relocation to France. Forest Green Junction Former railwayman Graham Mann packed a lot of OO into a space of only 8' x 5', recreating the 1980s/1990s scene on two levels. RAILWAY MODELLING EXPLORED A winter's tale Paul Begg and his team set this large N gauge layout in winter, as few layouts depict this season, and embarked on recreating snow and ice effects. Metcalfe coal merchant's office Craig Tiley shows you how to get the best from this month's free cover-mounted kit. Adding cattle to wagons The livesatock trade was once very important to the railways, with animals transported in purpose-built vehicles. Peter Harrison tackled the seldom-seen sight of loaded wagons in 4mm scale. REGULARS Talking Points Topical issues from the world of railway modelling. This month, editor Steve Flint goes behind the scenes of Hatton's, the very active Widnes-based retailer. Comment Opinions and observations across the field of railway modelling. This month, John Rodway ponders the relevance of real model railway clubs in a digital world. Readers’ Letters Latest Reviews Including this month the Bulleid 1Co-Co1 in OO from the Kernow Model Rail Centre; the Dapol LMS 3F 0-6-0T in O; a Lee Marsh Model Co GWR clerestory brake third in 7mm; 58' ex-LSWR coaches in OO from Hornby; the retooled Class 40 and more in N from Graham Farish; the LSWR D15 4-4-0 new from OO Works; and airbrush maintenance essentials from Iwata. Book Reviews, Christmas cards and calendars News Including a look at progress with the Dapol N gauge Class 68 and GWR streamlined railcar in OO; and exclusive Class 50 in N from DCC Supplies; engineering samples of the D600 Warship in OO from the Kernow Model Rail Centre; enhanced U-Drive steam sounds from South West Digital; 3D printed locos from SSC; and much more. Societies & Clubs The hobby's best guide to What's On around the UK and beyond. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pint of Adnams Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Thanks, but it's a very expensive way just to obtain a copy of the Parkside by Peco mini catalogue! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
40F Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 The best bit is Laughter lines this months is very very very true 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rue_d_etropal Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 The best bit is Laughter lines this months is very very very true Remove the layout being built, and even more true these days! I think John Rodway's Comment Page is also interesting, especially as he is a member of a club which makes a point of being practical and pushes the 'real' railway modelling message as far as it will go. I have been trying to get RM/CM to do something on virtual railway modelling! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 (edited) The best bit is Laughter lines this months is very very very true The Laughter Lines cartoon (p1074) Is very very apt In fact I see myself as one who uses up 'modelling time' doing other things as portrayed in the carton. Everyone should try to have a look at P1074 I woder if Peco would allow the cartoon to be shown on here, it may actually generate some sales! Edited November 9, 2017 by Stevelewis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardbealach Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 The Laughter Lines cartoon (p1047) shows the guy got more done on his layout before he got himself a computer. Is there a hidden message there? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Haven't read it yet, but if you're not a regular, its almost worth getting for the mini-Metcalfe shed alone...... (Typical Peco, no prices in the wagon booklet!) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Haven't read it yet, but if you're not a regular, its almost worth getting for the mini-Metcalfe shed alone...... (Typical Peco, no prices in the wagon booklet!) I presume because you can't order direct and retailers have different prices. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 (edited) The Laughter Lines cartoon (p1047) shows the guy got more done on his layout before he got himself a computer. Is there a hidden message there? The 2 pics of the cartoon are 60 years apart, 1st shows modeller happily listening to the radio smoking a pipe and playing trains, 2nd show comp with FORUM on it baseboard is almost bare with the modeller looking frustrated and bad tempered on his comp keyboard you really have to see it to appreciate it I see myself there!! page 1074 Edited November 13, 2017 by Stevelewis 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Is it just me or are those cartoons never even remotely funny? That one's a bit satirical I suppose and I can understand the gist of it. The only cartoons that I liked were the old RM ones by Joe with Bellcrank, Bullhead and Bissell. Jason 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
40F Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Is it just me or are those cartoons never even remotely funny? That one's a bit satirical I suppose and I can understand the gist of it. The only cartoons that I liked were the old RM ones by Joe with Bellcrank, Bullhead and Bissell. Jason I would have thought that is plainly obvious the point it is making Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 The Laughter Lines cartoon (p1047) shows the guy got more done on his layout before he got himself a computer. Is there a hidden message there? Is he moaning about prices by any chance or posting wishlists? Maybe I should send in a response where the same guy is making the same layouts and the same mistakes 60 years later without the benefit of inspiration or advice. Mind you we have some of them too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve1 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 It's a handy free kit but what I do find irritating is it's description as OO/HO. Either it's 4mm to the foot or it's 3.5mm to the foot. It can't be both. Interesting mag though. steve 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 I would have thought that is plainly obvious the point it is making Maybe. But I haven't seen it yet. I was just going on what has been posted. The point about them never being funny stands though. Now this is funny and is still true today fifty years later. https://farm1.staticflickr.com/691/23884342206_2668a644ed.jpg Jason 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Is he moaning about prices by any chance or posting wishlists? Maybe I should send in a response where the same guy is making the same layouts and the same mistakes 60 years later without the benefit of inspiration or advice. Mind you we have some of them too. As the baseboard in the '2017' pic has a trackless baseboard, I bet he probably cannot make up his mind whether to use Flat Bottom or Bullhead track Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted November 9, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 9, 2017 As the baseboard in the '2017' pic has a trackless baseboard, I bet he probably cannot make up his mind whether to use Flat Bottom or Bullhead track He's probably writing a post on the bullhead rail thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
40F Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 Maybe. But I haven't seen it yet. I was just going on what has been posted. The point about them never being funny stands though. Now this is funny and is still true today fifty years later. https://farm1.staticflickr.com/691/23884342206_2668a644ed.jpg Jason Each to their own Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted November 10, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 10, 2017 Maybe he's just realised he cant afford to do the hobby at all............... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 Is he moaning about prices by any chance or posting wishlists? Maybe I should send in a response where the same guy is making the same layouts and the same mistakes 60 years later without the benefit of inspiration or advice. Mind you we have some of them too. Whilst there's no doubt about the value of forums (would I dare say otherwise?) there was inspiration and advice before RMweb! Some of it was obtainable through clubs and printed magazines, lest we forget. (CJL) 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenrithBeacon Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 I downloaded the app for this magazine with the intention of subscribing to single issues as and when the fancy took me. However this company has a policy the a subscription is automatically renewed ie it never expires unless the subscriber explicitly cancels it. I haven’t subscribed! Be aware! Regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted November 11, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 11, 2017 Another really good issue . RM just goes from strength to strength. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Maybe. But I haven't seen it yet. I was just going on what has been posted. The point about them never being funny stands though. Now this is funny and is still true today fifty years later. https://farm1.staticflickr.com/691/23884342206_2668a644ed.jpg Jason Now then....there should be a book of these cartoons.....better than the BBC! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 57xx Posted November 13, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 13, 2017 Maybe. But I haven't seen it yet. I was just going on what has been posted. The point about them never being funny stands though. Now this is funny and is still true today fifty years later. https://farm1.staticflickr.com/691/23884342206_2668a644ed.jpg Fifty years? I remember seeing it in print, but it must have seen it in one of my Dad's stash of old RM's then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Huw Griffiths Posted November 13, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 13, 2017 Whilst there's no doubt about the value of forums (would I dare say otherwise?) there was inspiration and advice before RMweb! Some of it was obtainable through clubs and printed magazines, lest we forget. (CJL) I hope you don't mind me saying this, Chris - but you've got me slightly puzzled there: Clubs: Quite apart from any issues about "politics" in some clubs, there are also a number of decent sized towns which (as far as I'm aware) don't have have any model railway club (leave alone some mythical "perfect" club, where everyone fits right in and where everyone's personal prototype / scale / gauge / era preferences are catered for). Towns like the one where I've lived for the last 50 years, for instance. Printed magazines: What are they? Wait a second - are they those periodicals a lot of people only ever seem to read in their local WH Smith (people whom some publishers encourage to go there by offering their publications at special bargain basement prices, only at Smith's)? Seriously though, a number of us continue to buy printed magazines from our local, independent, newsagents - as long as the magazines include enough interesting / relevant content to make it worth our while. Sometimes, I've found elevation drawings and other stuff that's turned out to be very useful indeed. As for forums, they can only ever be as good as the active members (and what they post). To some extent, you could make similar comments about a number of the articles that appear in magazines (although a number of magazines also arrange for staff or other people to write articles for them). Speaking personally though, I doubt if my specific railway modelling interests will ever be completely catered for, by any magazine (and certainly not by any club whose meetings I'd be able to get to and from by public transport). I know - it's incredible - none of the mainstream magazines fill all their pages with HO scale UK outline "light rail" (together with how to build street track, working OHLE - and how to safely and neatly connect it all up to a 50 year old controller retrieved from a skip). Joking aside, I do happen to like light rail - but I can't remember the last time a mainstream railway modelling magazine included scale drawings and guidance on how to model a British outline LRV (either kit or scratchbuilt). I'm not expecting to see such an article any time soon. As for the fictitious 50 year old controller, there's only one thing I'd ever be likely to do with the thing - completely "gut" it and fit something safe into the housing. No surprises there - after all, I am an electrical engineer, so I don't like electrical stuff that catches fire or makes strange buzzing noises. Huw. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 As for the fictitious 50 year old controller, there's only one thing I'd ever be likely to do with the thing - completely "gut" it and fit something safe into the housing. No surprises there - after all, I am an electrical engineer, so I don't like electrical stuff that catches fire or makes strange buzzing noises. Huw. I share your concern about 50yo controllers, I wouldn't apply mains voltage to my ancient HD controllers for fear of internal insulation breakdowns, though in my experience buzzing is the least of the worries. As for skip retrieval specimens, I wouldn't touch them with a bargepole, unless it was to see if the resistance mat was in better shape than something I was using. Live casings, fire and general blue smoke would be my major concerns. Buzzing would just be loose transformer laminations... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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