shaunthesheep277 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 This is my attempt at the cake box challenge I thought I'd do one for the kids and what better than Thomas the Tank Engine I got a few pics of the net and set to work Here is the pictures I've chosen I started with the baseboard, added the track, the platform and placed Thomas & Bertie but realized there wasn't enough room for his coaches (Annie & Clarabel) So I did a second board to see what it would look like But the challenge is to fit in the box which is 8 by 8 so how could I add a second board and still fit in the box, well the box is 6 inches high and there's only two rules to know about why not use the lid too, problem solved After a bit of working I got it to work so started to add the detailing Here's where I'm up to now and pictures to prove it all fits in the box and more to finish on it yet Here's how I did it, the wonders of Velcro It's not finished yet, The two coaches are screwed in place so they don't fall off plus I use them to pull the board off the lid Thomas isn't secured yet and there's a lot of empty space next to the coaches Looking at the pictures there is a hill so I might add a bit of green maybe add a tree if it fits So mine is 8 inches by 16 inches total space and fits in the box no problem Looking at some of the topic posts is really quite unique to see this and I look forward to see who wins Will be a very tough decision 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Boco_D1 Posted November 12, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 12, 2017 I do like this and great idea by securing the second board in the lid, clearly your a chap who played a lot Tetris in your youth to get this all to fit in the cake box Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaunthesheep277 Posted November 27, 2017 Author Share Posted November 27, 2017 I wen't to Warley this year and had a long good chat with Phil (at least I think it was Phil) and it feels now like a grey area having the second scene Velcro to the lid I don't think it is cheating, I thought it is was a good idea at the time but now isn't sure The lid does sit on the box and measures six inches but now it's unclear I'll try and get a shot of the whole thing in the box with one side cut away or clear to see through just to show it fits anyway whole year yet will make another one for sure Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 As far as loopholerry goes, you could say that its two separate scenes, each in their own cakebox which, when taken out, form a harmonious whole. It might work, OTOH it might not.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefromacrossthepond Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 As long as you have fun with it, then you win! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaunthesheep277 Posted December 3, 2017 Author Share Posted December 3, 2017 Well I think I'm finished so here is some more pics I had to swap Thomas round to the lid because of weight issues but it looks like it's worked out well Oh and I took a selfie of me holding the lid with the second board sticking to it I must say it sticks very well and I've giving it a good shake to check I don't think it's cheating just ingenuity 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Phil Parker Posted December 3, 2017 Administrators Share Posted December 3, 2017 I wen't to Warley this year and had a long good chat with Phil (at least I think it was Phil) and it feels now like a grey area having the second scene Velcro to the lid I don't think it is cheating, I thought it is was a good idea at the time but now isn't sure The lid does sit on the box and measures six inches but now it's unclear I'll try and get a shot of the whole thing in the box with one side cut away or clear to see through just to show it fits anyway whole year yet will make another one for sure It was Phil. As I said, there are grey areas, or loopholery (excellent word!) and it will be up to the voters ultimately. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaunthesheep277 Posted December 3, 2017 Author Share Posted December 3, 2017 It was Phil. As I said, there are grey areas, or loopholery (excellent word!) and it will be up to the voters ultimately. Never any good with names, brain like a sieve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaunthesheep277 Posted August 18, 2018 Author Share Posted August 18, 2018 I have submitted my entry but I forgot to add the link for my entry to this page hopefully they'll know and look this page up I'm not expecting anything but it will be interesting to see who wins Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy McV Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Entry received with thanks, Shaun. Nice work, and I'm already singing the theme tune! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritishGypsum4 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 I'd call it ingenuity. Ultimately I always have held the belief that model railways are a compromise with space and we all do our best to fit as much in as possible at times. That's half the fun and challenge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londontram Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Sorry abuse of the rules. Every one else interpreted the rules as a model or display that would fit in the "footprint" of a cake box. What is it they used to say? "It's just not cricket" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritishGypsum4 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Depends on how you look at it. If nothing is said about using the roof then what does it matter? It still fits inside the box. From my point of view (someone who views models with appreciation of time and effort put in) I like to see how people have solved puzzles and challenges. I sometimes struggle to think "outside the box" when it comes to some solutions, so seeing the cake box challenge models is great. Same with the Ferrero Roche diorama challenge of the past. Maybe the judges might stipulate next year that the lid is left untouched? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knuckles Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Liking what I see. It fits in the box...nuff said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Imagination and ingenuity are some of the qualities that make up good modelling. For example, with folding wings (like a carrier aircraft), the same footprint could be made to "fit inside the box" as a whole. Given that, I've no problem with putting a panel in the lid, provided it all fits within the 8x8x6 box. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
009 micro modeller Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Imagination and ingenuity are some of the qualities that make up good modelling. For example, with folding wings (like a carrier aircraft), the same footprint could be made to "fit inside the box" as a whole. Given that, I've no problem with putting a panel in the lid, provided it all fits within the 8x8x6 box. While I agree about the ingenuity, and there’s some great modelling here, I think the problem is where to draw the line. If you made inch thick 8x8 boards you could put six in the box that unpacked to make a fairly large layout (for example). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Griffin Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 I think its within the rules. Its inside the cake box which was the brief Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 While I agree about the ingenuity, and there’s some great modelling here, I think the problem is where to draw the line. If you made inch thick 8x8 boards you could put six in the box that unpacked to make a fairly large layout (for example). Could be interesting... Like the GMRC, I feel there will be some tightening of the rules for "Cakebox 2" if it takes place. I hope it does! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergmann Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 (edited) I think the vote has gone and what the future holds, we will see. If it looks good, I don't care how the result is generated, from me also a Pup Up 3D diorama. But it should already convince in terms of design and the real size should be clearly recognizable. The question is to comply with the operational diorama or the packaged diorama. I had no way at all to get a cake box others didn't even bother to show the model together with the Cake Box. The statement remains: What the viewer likes is allowed. Only I think I don't like it when all sorts of things haven't been heeded. Edited November 3, 2018 by Bergmann Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritishGypsum4 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 While I agree about the ingenuity, and there’s some great modelling here, I think the problem is where to draw the line. If you made inch thick 8x8 boards you could put six in the box that unpacked to make a fairly large layout (for example). Very true but there wouldn't be much in the way of buildings etc on the boards so would look a bit plain perhaps? Unless someone decided upon T scale! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaunthesheep277 Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share Posted November 4, 2018 I did ask Phil and Andy the year before about loop holes they both said there was a few which were worth exploring with that in mind I thought I'd have a go see what happens I've put my entry in it's up to the voters to choose and at the end of the day it was fun to built and it was a change of pace I put my vote in which was very difficult to choose just three out of 45ish and I look forward to the result Hoping they'll have another one next year 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
009 micro modeller Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Very true but there wouldn't be much in the way of buildings etc on the boards so would look a bit plain perhaps? Unless someone decided upon T scale! I was kind of thinking of this post from the original thread: No, the diorama has to fit into the box with the lid on. No bits sticking out the sides (I show how I avoid this in the magazine article). We'd accept a little rule bending with a tall building that splits for the lid to fit, but only just. If we allowed models that could be packed up into the box, someone could chuck the trains and track from a substantial N gauge layout in and enter, that's not the idea. Eventually, I'd like to see some of these models gathered together at a show in the future, easy if they are all the same size but impossible if people are spreading out everywhere. Big scale though - certainly - I'm planning a garden scale scene in the future and have already started work on a 7mm one. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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