vitalspark Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Personally I think Bachmann will release a 47/7 in blue with silver roof. They already do 47701 in the Farish range with flush front. The Limited Edition 47/7 '47706 Waverley' in Scotrail livery will be available on a first come first served basis at the Glasgow show. With the announcement from Bachman of a Scotrail DBSO to follow I would think this will prove a popular loco. Dave. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted December 20, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 20, 2017 A re-tooled Bachmann 43XX that might be an elderly body on new non-split chassis is not the way forward if we end up with 1980's lack of finesse and over-scale boiler bands and handrail knobs. I think they've learnt that lesson now Larry and realised that just doing the chassis isn't enough with their older models. The 43XX, an ideal 1918 link of course, would be better than a 'Manor' and wouldn't compete with Dapol's ideas in many respects although to non GW modelling folk no doubt all Swindon 2-6-0s look the same (including the 'Aberdares'? ) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
railroadbill Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 I think they've learnt that lesson now Larry and realised that just doing the chassis isn't enough with their older models. The 43XX, an ideal 1918 link of course, would be better than a 'Manor' and wouldn't compete with Dapol's ideas in many respects although to non GW modelling folk no doubt all Swindon 2-6-0s look the same (including the 'Aberdares'? ) Years ago an old friend had an Aberdare converted in some fashion from an Airfix City of Truro kit. Therefore all Swindon locos (never mind 2-6-0s) look the same. Qed, It is a very good look of course. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 (edited) This thing about 'All GWR locos alike' is merely going along with an old chestnut, and lets face it, some folk don't know much about railways anyway. It could be said that all LMS Fowler locos look alike as do all Stanier locos, and no one mentions the Drummond family likeness in Scotland and the south of England. Edited December 20, 2017 by coachmann Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren01 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 I think they've learnt that lesson now Larry and realised that just doing the chassis isn't enough with their older models. The 43XX, an ideal 1918 link of course, would be better than a 'Manor' and wouldn't compete with Dapol's ideas in many respects although to non GW modelling folk no doubt all Swindon 2-6-0s look the same (including the 'Aberdares'? ) Yep, Just like the Ivartt tanks, that where around 70-80 pounds, then they stick a new chassis under what is a very old body and now are asking £135.00. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted December 20, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 20, 2017 Years ago an old friend had an Aberdare converted in some fashion from an Airfix City of Truro kit. Therefore all Swindon locos (never mind 2-6-0s) look the same. Qed, It is a very good look of course. Nothing, but nothing else looks like an Aberdare. Thank heaven. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted December 20, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 20, 2017 This thing about 'All GWR locos alike' is merely going along with an old chestnut, and lets face it, some folk don't know much about railways anyway. It could be said that all LMS Fowler locos look alike as do all Stanier locos, and no one mentions the Drummond family likeness in Scotland and the south of England. True but Fowler loco's do look different to Stanier loco's which again look different to Ivatt loco's. Not quite the same with the GWR because from Churchward to Hawksworth the family likeness is plain to see aka 'they all look the same'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Francis deWeck Posted December 20, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 20, 2017 True but Fowler loco's do look different to Stanier loco's which again look different to Ivatt loco's. Not quite the same with the GWR because from Churchward to Hawksworth the family likeness is plain to see aka 'they all look the same'. Interesting, it might be observed that the Bachmann 'Jubilee' (of which I have 4) have deep splashers, which have a tendency to make the model look like a LMS Castle...or is that just a matter of perception, or because Stanier had GWR roots? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Interesting, it might be observed that the Bachmann 'Jubilee' (of which I have 4) have deep splashers, which have a tendency to make the model look like a LMS Castle...or is that just a matter of perception, or because Stanier had GWR roots? He put a proper safety valve bonnet on his first 2-6-0 for the LMS.......until they made him take it off! (CJL) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Hat Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 This thing about 'All GWR locos alike' is merely going along with an old chestnut, and lets face it, some folk don't know much about railways anyway. It could be said that all LMS Fowler locos look alike as do all Stanier locos, and no one mentions the Drummond family likeness in Scotland and the south of England. Yes, 'cos they are not as good. Simple as that. Only ones that do match the Western, in terms of design, appearance and standardisation is the North Eastern. All others pale compared to them. Sadly for some - the truth hurts. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractor_37260 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Personally I think Bachmann will release a 47/7 in blue with silver roof. They already do 47701 in the Farish range with flush front. Hopefully ! but in BR blue with a light "silver" grey roof, or one of the 2 L/L versions ? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiddles47 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Hopefully ! but in BR blue with a light "silver" grey roof, or one of the 2 L/L versions ? The plain blue version. Would go well with 4/5 MK2a's and DBSO. Something like in the pic 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcwp Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 We have yet to see an air-braked (and thus with the Serck shutters) blue TOPS 47 still with headcode panel intact, either with a headcode or dominoes: 47455_LlandudnoJct_1979 by Robert Carroll, on Flickr 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covkid Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 At this years 2017 launch in Coventry I was told there were no plans to re do the 43XX at that time, I too hope things have changed in the 12 Months, (almost) since then. No thank you. I would rather Dapol proceed with it's announced 43xx whilst Bachmann retool the Manor. Both companies then benefit from modeller dollars. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covkid Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 The Class 20 must be due its retool. Said it 4 years in a row so its gotta happen soon as the firm works its way through retooling the entire diesel range. What do you find wrong with the existing class 20 tooling ? The only bit I am not keen on is the headcode box at the nose end, but I live with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractor_37260 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 What do you find wrong with the existing class 20 tooling ? The only bit I am not keen on is the headcode box at the nose end, but I live with it. Factory fit lighting.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Alder Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 This thing about 'All GWR locos alike' is merely going along with an old chestnut, and lets face it, some folk don't know much about railways anyway. It could be said that all LMS Fowler locos look alike as do all Stanier locos, and no one mentions the Drummond family likeness in Scotland and the south of England. I've made good use of the Drummond family connection. The last few years have been manna for HR loco bodgers who aren't obssesed with every last mm ..... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted December 21, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 21, 2017 I’m hoping for a Royal Scotsman Class 66. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Neal Ball Posted December 21, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 21, 2017 New GWR Carriages anyone? The current Collett are way beyond their sell by date - those moulds must have been replaced several times by now and need to be thrown away! I reckon we could see a new 8750 as I have been told the moulds are shot and they don't want anyone else producing a new Pannier. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted December 21, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 21, 2017 (edited) New GWR Carriages anyone? The current Collett are way beyond their sell by date - those moulds must have been replaced several times by now and need to be thrown away! . Try Hornby, they've recently done some beauties. I'd have suggested some better Southern Bulleid coaches, but I think Bachmann may have left that too long................ John Edited December 28, 2017 by Dunsignalling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenrithBeacon Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 (edited) He put a proper safety valve bonnet on his first 2-6-0 for the LMS.......until they made him take it off! (CJL) Not true, definitely not true! Derby put a safety valve bonnet the engine without the agreement of Stanier who instructed them to remove it. Edited December 21, 2017 by PenrithBeacon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Flying Pig Posted December 21, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 21, 2017 I've made good use of the Drummond family connection. The last few years have been manna for HR loco bodgers who aren't obssesed with every last mm ..... Just to give the porridge a bit of a stir, that works both ways: Hornby could have been making Scottish engines all along and leaving those spolit Southerners to do some work for a change Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 No thank you. I would rather Dapol proceed with it's announced 43xx whilst Bachmann retool the Manor. Both companies then benefit from modeller dollars. Thanks CovKid, I thought a Manor was a 43XX, as it was the Manor I was talking to B/M about, just shows what I know about GW / Green pointy nose Locos. Off to crawl back under my Stone until 2018. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted December 21, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 21, 2017 (edited) At this years 2017 launch in Coventry I was told there were no plans to re do the 43XX at that time, I too hope things have changed in the 12 Months, (almost) since then. I also asked about the Lord Nelson, again a much asked for re tooling, but I was given the same answer, again it would be most welcomed by many. We now know that the former would duplicate a model already under development at Dapol and the Lord Nelson seems to be odds-on favourite to be the 2018 headline loco from Hornby, to be announced the day after Bachmann reveal their programme. On that basis, it seems extremely unlikely that Bachmann would change they're minds over either. Even if they did, on past form, a new loco developed from scratch starting today, isn't likely to emerge much before 2023. I'm not suggesting for one moment that we won't be offered a choice of 43xx models, but it's a safe bet that none will come in Bachmann boxes. John Edited December 21, 2017 by Dunsignalling 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
County of Yorkshire Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 New GWR Carriages anyone? The current Collett are way beyond their sell by date - those moulds must have been replaced several times by now and need to be thrown away! Would love a new range of Collett sunshine coaches with more diagrams. Taking the Portholes and Thompsons as an example, perhaps we could expect a TK, BTK, CK, FK and BCK? A true pre-war GWR BG is essential also; probably a K40 or K41. That being said with my business hat on I would say that Bulleid coaches are more of an open goal than Collett sunshine coaches at the moment. CoY Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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