RMweb Premium Welly Posted December 19, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 19, 2017 I have heard this distinctive ticking noise in several YT videos of cabs of CC72000 and CC6500 and probably other loco classes. Example https://youtu.be/77MrQLezsjg?t=3m52s What is it, please? Even the sound decoder fitted to my Roco CC72000 has that sound! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve1 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 A berm? steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted December 19, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 19, 2017 A berm? steve At this late stage Steve you've won the RMWeb reply of the year IMHO. Mike. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Piewalker Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Spirax valve? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dullsteamer Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Hasler speed recorder? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
APOLLO Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 French Tickler ? Brit15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Give over...we all know it's the Flux Capacitor charging. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Hasler speed recorder? I thought it was called the Flaman Recorder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Welly Posted December 20, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 20, 2017 Hasler speed recorder? Bingo!! Searched YT and found this clip: https://youtu.be/pBFMntSKTsQ Exactly the same sound. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 A berm? steve I know that I am slow, but it has taken me almost 24 hours to figure out the meaning of this post. It is a long time since I saw any Clouseau. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon A Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 A clock so they know when to stop for lunch? Gordon A Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordon s Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 (edited) Thanks Jonny. I thought it was a 'younger generation' joke as I had no idea what it was about. I know what a berm is, but couldn't see the connection. One worry thing definition came from an Urban Dictionary....... Option 3 was particularly disturbing..... https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=berm For others who missed the connection..... Edited December 20, 2017 by gordon s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted December 20, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 20, 2017 A clock so they know when to stop for lunch? Gordon A Japanese trains have a real (i.e. clockwork) stop watch in a cradle in front of the driver. http://shibuya246.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/DSC_1391.jpg Even this E7 Shinkansen cab has two receptacles for watches: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/e7/52/bf/e752bfa82554b315b38485aa6219024e.jpg Keith 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted December 20, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 20, 2017 If that's what French drivers have to put up with in the cab it must really get on their threepennys, or does it eventually become un noticed background noise? Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsp3970 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Thanks Jonny. I thought it was a 'younger generation' joke as I had no idea what it was about. I know what a berm is, but couldn't see the connection. One worry thing definition came from an Urban Dictionary....... Option 3 was particularly disturbing..... https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=berm I really, really wished I had not been eating when I clicked on that link... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyID Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Ticky paper? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted December 21, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 21, 2017 I know that I am slow, but it has taken me almost 24 hours to figure out the meaning of this post. It is a long time since I saw any Clouseau. His fault for spelling it wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Welly Posted December 21, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 21, 2017 If that's what French drivers have to put up with in the cab it must really get on their threepennys, or does it eventually become un noticed background noise? Mike. I noticed from several cab ride footages on SNCF locos that the ticking noise tends to stop a few minutes after starting the journey. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted December 21, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 21, 2017 I've cabbed a couple of French locos and don't recall this sound. But then SWMBO keeps telling me that I need a hearing test. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Vecchio Posted December 21, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 21, 2017 Same ticking you had in the past in all Viennese trams. Started only when the tram moves and stops when the tram stops. I suppose it was the speed recording disc where a needle made a trace in some kind of powder. The recording was only a few minutes, after a full turn of the disc the old trace was erased (or covered with a new powder layer) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Pre Channel Tunnel I had a cab ride from Deliverance Yard in Lille to Amiens on a Freight Train. The loco was quite old and behind the driver was a glass case with what looked like a giant carriage clock. It made suitable clock like noises. I think it was some kind of data recorder. The output was a trace on a roll of paper. Wish I'd taken a picture. What I remember was the driver 'playing' with the controls to keep the vigilance device from going off. Massive train, no sense of effort and the driver never looked back once... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 I remember something akin to "ticking" noises from locos in quiet depots I went around in the 70s and 80s at weekends. I am not sure what that was, but it seemed to be more prevalent on some classes of loco to others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Pre Channel Tunnel I had a cab ride from Deliverance Yard in Lille to Amiens on a Freight Train. The loco was quite old and behind the driver was a glass case with what looked like a giant carriage clock. It made suitable clock like noises. I think it was some kind of data recorder. The output was a trace on a roll of paper. Wish I'd taken a picture. What I remember was the driver 'playing' with the controls to keep the vigilance device from going off. Massive train, no sense of effort and the driver never looked back once... That was a Flaman recorder; installed from the 1930s on steam engines, and subsequently diesels and electrics. It recorded various elements of performance, including speed and brake applications; to soften up crews, a 'Prime du Charbon' was paid, according to how economically the driver made the engine work. 'Primes' were soon being given out for what was considered exemplary performance in other fields. An ex-SNCF employee of our acquaintance claimed there was even a 'Prime pour les gens qui n'ont pas les droits pour les autres primes'. The 'Prime du charbon' continued to be paid long after steam had disappeared; it may even still persist, though these days, performance is measured via ATESS. When you realise that most pre-WW2 British locos didn't even have a crude speedometer, it shows how advanced the French were at this time. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dullsteamer Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 I thought it was called the Flaman Recorder. Two different devices made by two different manufacturers. As far as I know SNCF used both, as I've seen Haslers fitted to French locos. Cheers, Mark. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMO Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 This noise comes from the Flaman recorder. It's a mechanical system clock with a big spring. The driver of the locomotive has to wind up this clock at each beginning of the service. This device gives the speed to the driver. Inside there is a roller of paper which record the speeds etc... it's a black box to control the driver. This device was installed in the steam locomotives to the modern ones until the electronic recorder has replaced this old but reliable system. More information in French here: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flaman I hope it helps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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