spikey Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 So I am building this kit, and the windows are of two types: type 19 which fit from inside the frames, and type 20 which fit from the outside. The instructions call for 7 of type 19 and 5 of type 20, making a total of 12 windows. There are 12 windows on the sprue, but whichever way I look at it and however many times I count them, 5 are type 19 and 7 are type 20. This can only mean one of five things:- a) I cannot count, or (b) I cannot tell one type from the other, or © the instructions are wrong, or (d) they cocked up with tooling, or (e) something else Can anybody please tell me which it is? I'll be over there in the corner, curled up quietly whimpering ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan downes Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Beats me but Ratio are pretty well on the ball usually. But just 5 windows for a signal box seems rather inadequate to me. Cheers. Allan. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted January 6, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 6, 2018 (edited) I haven't got one of these but looking at pictures I would say that 5 fit from the inside and 7 from the outside, so 5 Type 19 and 7 Type 20 . Edited January 6, 2018 by TheSignalEngineer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spikey Posted January 6, 2018 Author Share Posted January 6, 2018 I haven't got one of these but looking at pictures I would say that 5 fit from the inside and 7 from the outside, so 5 Type 19 and 7 Type 20 . Yep, that's what I reckon the picture on the box looks like, so that's how I've built it. There's now two of us here reckon the instructions are wrong, but what's now done is done. A chap's got to move on. So much layout to build, so little time ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted January 6, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 6, 2018 That looks to be the 'Highley' signal box kit, which is a McKenzie & Holland example. Churchward Models (now part of Phoenix Precision) do a set of replacement etched windows for that kit, which really enhance the appearance - https://www.phoenix-paints.co.uk/products/churchward/detail/churchward-detail-both/cm61 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian777999 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 (edited) Who else has built this kit ? I am having problems getting the planking sides (yellow) to fit the frames (brown) from behind. Some of the pieces fit but others are not even close. Edited July 10, 2018 by brian777999 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Here are some views of the box I built: Hope it helps you to figure out where things go. John 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian777999 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Thanks. How did you get the effect of concrete between the bricks ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Hi Brian. It was a long time ago. IIRC, the plastic sheet was primed with Red Oxide. After it cured I think I would have painted the individual bricks with various colours a la Rice. Brick walls of the time were not a uniform colour. I then painted on some dilute acrylic cream/concrete and wiped it off using IPA on a paper towel to get the mortar lines. These days, I tend to use Scalescenes brick paper on card, much easier and looks far better than I can do. HTH John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian777999 Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 I have also bought the Ratio signal box interior : How many levers would typically be in a signal box of this size ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 Brian, it would depend on the layout. Not all turnouts are controlled by the signal box. Those in the yard would have hand levers. You would need to figure all that out. There would be a couple of spare levers. Lever colours denote types of turnout (facing point lock for example) and signal. I'm on a limb when talking about this stuff so perhaps others with better knowledge will amplify. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian777999 Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 My signal box is almost complete : I just need to glue the windows in. I was thinking of putting some lighting inside. What is a safe ''bulb'' to use so that there is no danger of the plastic melting ? I would have thought that modern LED's produce little heat but I am not sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingsignalman Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 I have also bought the Ratio signal box interior : How many levers would typically be in a signal box of this size ? Highley box has 14 levers but Broughton Crossing on the Brymbo branch and virtually identical apart from the size of the locking room windows had 20 levers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crompton 33 Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 My signal box is almost complete : I just need to glue the windows in. I was thinking of putting some lighting inside. What is a safe ''bulb'' to use so that there is no danger of the plastic melting ? I would have thought that modern LED's produce little heat but I am not sure. LED's will be fine to use. No danger of melting plastic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian777999 Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 (edited) The finished product at last. The weathering does not show up much on the photos. I would not bother fitting an interior if I built another one of these as it cannot be seen through the windows ! It might be visible if the signal box was lit from within on a ''night time'' layout. Edited September 12, 2018 by brian777999 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timbowilts Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Just one point re the interior, brian777999. The levers should not be all the same colour but should be painted according to what they are controlling. Red for stop signals and shunt sighals Yellow for distant signals, Black for points and Blue for facing point locks. There are other colours but you don’t need to worry about them. Tim T Modelling Cwm Cynon in EM 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted September 12, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 12, 2018 And painting the levers will help them show up through the windows. If Brian could post his trackplan, we could devise a diagram and tell him which levers should be which colour. But perhaps that is going too far? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian777999 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 And painting the levers will help them show up through the windows. If Brian could post his trackplan, we could devise a diagram and tell him which levers should be which colour. But perhaps that is going too far? No track plan as yet ; we just bought a house yesterday and move there about 35 days from now. I am thinking about what I can fit and where in one of the spare bedrooms. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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