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Poll: Enthusiast age versus modelled era, unscientific poll (387 member(s) have cast votes)

What is your age?

  1. Under 15 (1 votes [0.26%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.26%

  2. 15-19 (7 votes [1.81%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.81%

  3. 20-24 (9 votes [2.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.33%

  4. Voted 25-29 (9 votes [2.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.33%

  5. 30-34 (21 votes [5.43%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.43%

  6. 35-39 (20 votes [5.17%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.17%

  7. 40-44 (27 votes [6.98%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.98%

  8. Voted 45-49 (45 votes [11.63%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.63%

  9. 50-54 (68 votes [17.57%])

    Percentage of vote: 17.57%

  10. 55-59 (55 votes [14.21%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.21%

  11. 60-64 (41 votes [10.59%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.59%

  12. 65-69 (49 votes [12.66%])

    Percentage of vote: 12.66%

  13. 70-74 (29 votes [7.49%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.49%

  14. 75-79 (3 votes [0.78%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.78%

  15. 80-84 (1 votes [0.26%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.26%

  16. 85-89 (1 votes [0.26%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.26%

  17. 90 and over (1 votes [0.26%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.26%

What eras do you model? (You may choose more than one.)

  1. Voted Pioneering (1804-1874) (10 votes [1.24%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.24%

  2. Voted Pre-Grouping (1875-1922) (77 votes [9.54%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.54%

  3. Voted Grouping (1923-1947) (118 votes [14.62%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.62%

  4. BR early crest (1948-1956) (123 votes [15.24%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.24%

  5. BR late crest (1957-1966) (172 votes [21.31%])

    Percentage of vote: 21.31%

  6. Voted BR Blue - Pre TOPS (1967-1971) (71 votes [8.80%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.80%

  7. Voted BR Blue - TOPS (1972-1982) (92 votes [11.40%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.40%

  8. Voted Sectorisation (1983-1994) (63 votes [7.81%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.81%

  9. Privatisation (1995-2017) (49 votes [6.07%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.07%

  10. Contemporary (2018) (21 votes [2.60%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.60%

  11. No preference (11 votes [1.36%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.36%

What ONE era best describes your preferred subject?

  1. Pioneering (1804-1874) (3 votes [0.78%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.78%

  2. Voted Pre-Grouping (1875-1922) (50 votes [12.92%])

    Percentage of vote: 12.92%

  3. Grouping (1923-1947) (64 votes [16.54%])

    Percentage of vote: 16.54%

  4. BR early crest (1948-1956) (46 votes [11.89%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.89%

  5. BR late crest (1957-1966) (90 votes [23.26%])

    Percentage of vote: 23.26%

  6. Voted BR Blue - Pre TOPS (1967-1971) (17 votes [4.39%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.39%

  7. BR Blue - TOPS (1972-1982) (39 votes [10.08%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.08%

  8. Sectorisation (1983-1994) (29 votes [7.49%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.49%

  9. Privatisation (1995-2017) (24 votes [6.20%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.20%

  10. Contemporary (2018) (9 votes [2.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.33%

  11. No preference (16 votes [4.13%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.13%

Which of the following best describes your rolling stock?

  1. Voted All RTR (51 votes [13.18%])

    Percentage of vote: 13.18%

  2. Mostly RTR (228 votes [58.91%])

    Percentage of vote: 58.91%

  3. Voted Mostly kits or hand-built (98 votes [25.32%])

    Percentage of vote: 25.32%

  4. Mostly hand-built (9 votes [2.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.33%

  5. I don't own any models (1 votes [0.26%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.26%

Relative to time periods, what governs your favourite subject?

  1. I model what I can observe today (2018) (11 votes [2.84%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.84%

  2. I model what I remember when I was younger (124 votes [32.04%])

    Percentage of vote: 32.04%

  3. Voted I model a specific period, irrespective of any first-hand connection (192 votes [49.61%])

    Percentage of vote: 49.61%

  4. My primary modelling interest is not bound by a particular period (60 votes [15.50%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.50%

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#251 john flann

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Posted 24 January 2018 - 02:54

Responding  to post #247 and as 0.27% of the sample, I think I would place more reliance on the current wealth of documented railway matters than the memory of an old man.

 

However, if my memory was prompted by a particular question, then I could search it and maybe offer something.

 

However, this doesn't seem the correct thread for such a matter.

 

And, should you be interested further in my activities the links to my RM thread and website are below. Also I have written numerous model railway articles (most recent RM January 2018) and had fifteen articles published in Back Track.


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#252 gobbler

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Posted 24 January 2018 - 14:45

Would also be interested in company/region.

LMS, LNER, GE, Southern, GWR etc.....

Maybe on the next poll

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#253 BMacdermott

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Posted 24 January 2018 - 15:12

Hello Gobbler

 

Did you see my earlier post (238)?

 

Additionally to that, I sorted out the votes for those who collected from one region only (they could vote for as many as were valid). The figures relate to the collections of the respondents – in other words, what models they have as ‘physical possessions’ – as opposed to what they might or might not have as a model railway.

 

48 - SR only

35 - LMR + ER

31 - ER only

27 - WR only

26 - LMR only

23 - All four

 

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#254 34theletterbetweenB&D

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Posted 26 January 2018 - 11:51

I remember the MREmag poll (post 238) as probably settling the question of 'what's most popular?' ( a far larger sample ios really required, but hey, we have to make do with what we have). The one time dominance of 'Western' driven by RTR provision is now over, because there is now better coverage from around the UK. Interest and following is heavily influenced by availability of RTR models in short, is my reading of this.

 

That's what leads me to suspect that the long term neglect of northern England and Scotland by RTR manufacturers, now presents an opportunity. Produce RTR for that area and 'they will come'. Previous purchases will be packed up or sold on, and new RTR models of novel subjects will be purchased.


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#255 wombatofludham

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Posted 26 January 2018 - 16:23

If one goes by the usual yardstick that most of us don't retain very much in the way of detailed memories of "ordinary" experiences before age 10, that would only take him/her back to the latter half of the 1930s.
 
My mother is 89 and the bulk of her youthful memories start around the final year or so at primary school. I'd say the same broadly applies to me.
 
I did become somewhat obsessive about railways from about age 8 and recollect more about that than pretty much anything else that was happening at the time........ .
 
Typical? No idea.
 
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I don't know. By contrast, I do have quite a few vivid memories (not false memory syndrome either) from age 4-5. I remember seeing the pictures of the Hixon disaster on the front page of the Express and Star a few days before my 5th birthday. On a much happier note I vividly recall seeing the Manchester "Blue" Pullman running down the Trent Valley line towards London which must have been in about 1967 as the loco-hauled Manchester Pullman began in late 1967. I can remember lots of countryside walks with my parents along the canal watching the new electric trains, and then my first days at infant school which was next to the railway, again loads of memories of early AC electrics, mixed livery trains, loose coupled freight and the odd-ball trains like the afternoon "Brickliner", which often co-incided with pre-hometime story reading sessions outdoors on fine days, double headed by two very noisy Brush Type 2s being thrashed. The sight of these two "rare" diesels bellowing past whilst Mrs Niblett tried in vain to tell the story above the racket is still clear over 50 years later. Mrs N., God rest her memory, gave up trying to get me to concentrate on lessons outdoor in the summer when there were trains about, she knew it was a thankless task.

In fact it's these retained memories, vivid and clear, that are driving my principal modelling interests. I suspect the reason why they have become rooted is it co-incided with possibly the happiest period of my life, and the fact that I have a very good, highly developed visual memory. I hated secondary school, and the death of my mother in 1973 when I was 10 meant that the 70s are less vivid, mainly because of school and home life. That said, despite the 70s being less happy I do have an obsessional interest in 70s design and architecture so perhaps I don't have such a downer on that decade after all.
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Posted 26 January 2018 - 17:14

Memory is definitely a strange thing.

Having confessed to a bizarre false memory previously, I will also say that I have plenty of genuine, very clear, ‘snapshot’ memories of the kind mentioned by Wombat, back to about age c5. I can clearly remember one reading lesson, and numerous other things, from infants school. And a very few memories that I’m fairly certain date from even earlier ...... being carried upstairs to bed by my father when I was probably still a toddler, for instance.

What I think ‘kicks in’ somewhere around age 9 is a better conscious memory, and I can recall at age c11 the point when I properly became aware of ‘self’ for the first time, when the little chaps at the back, and the little bloke at the front were consciously separate for the first time ...... the actual moment and place when it ‘clicked’.

There’s a world of stuff between our ears!
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#257 The Stationmaster

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Posted 26 January 2018 - 18:24

I don't know. By contrast, I do have quite a few vivid memories (not false memory syndrome either) from age 4-5. I remember seeing the pictures of the Hixon disaster on the front page of the Express and Star a few days before my 5th birthday. On a much happier note I vividly recall seeing the Manchester "Blue" Pullman running down the Trent Valley line towards London which must have been in about 1967 as the loco-hauled Manchester Pullman began in late 1967. I can remember lots of countryside walks with my parents along the canal watching the new electric trains, and then my first days at infant school which was next to the railway, again loads of memories of early AC electrics, mixed livery trains, loose coupled freight and the odd-ball trains like the afternoon "Brickliner", which often co-incided with pre-hometime story reading sessions outdoors on fine days, double headed by two very noisy Brush Type 2s being thrashed. The sight of these two "rare" diesels bellowing past whilst Mrs Niblett tried in vain to tell the story above the racket is still clear over 50 years later. Mrs N., God rest her memory, gave up trying to get me to concentrate on lessons outdoor in the summer when there were trains about, she knew it was a thankless task.

In fact it's these retained memories, vivid and clear, that are driving my principal modelling interests. I suspect the reason why they have become rooted is it co-incided with possibly the happiest period of my life, and the fact that I have a very good, highly developed visual memory. I hated secondary school, and the death of my mother in 1973 when I was 10 meant that the 70s are less vivid, mainly because of school and home life. That said, despite the 70s being less happy I do have an obsessional interest in 70s design and architecture so perhaps I don't have such a downer on that decade after all.

The Manchester Pullman Mk2 loco hauled caches introduced in 1966 were in the reverse grey/blue scheme from the start.  The 'Midland Pullman' diesel pullman sets were in the nanking blue livery but ran on the old Midland route to Manchester from St Pancras although they did get on various specials (e.g for the Grand National) so conceivably might have appeared on the Trent Valley mainline on a special.


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Posted 26 January 2018 - 19:11

The Manchester Pullman Mk2 loco hauled caches introduced in 1966 were in the reverse grey/blue scheme from the start.  The 'Midland Pullman' diesel pullman sets were in the nanking blue livery but ran on the old Midland route to Manchester from St Pancras although they did get on various specials (e.g for the Grand National) so conceivably might have appeared on the Trent Valley mainline on a special.


I assumed it was something like that. All I know is I was very excited to see it because even at that age I knew it was something different, and amazingly that Christmas my dad bought me (actually, as I was 5 at the time, probably himself...) a Car-a-Belle and Blue Pullman train sets. Funny how those two things are linked.

I also recall the Liverpool Pullmans which had the half Pullman and half Mk2a second class formation with an RMB in the second class section. I always liked to see the Pullmans passing the school when sat in class as it marked about 10 minutes until playtime!
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Posted 26 January 2018 - 22:19

While I cannot claim to be in the Ninety age category, an interest in real trains started in the middle of WW2 by cousins of LMS bent who introduced me to such names as "Jubilees" and "Claughtons" which was strange as I lived in Plymouth amongst "Castles" and "Kings".  Long term memory is supposed to be better than short so I can relate to a lot of railway related events, much better than most other things. :locomotive:

 

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Posted 02 February 2018 - 11:38

While I cannot claim to be in the Ninety age category, an interest in real trains started in the middle of WW2 by cousins of LMS bent who introduced me to such names as "Jubilees" and "Claughtons" which was strange as I lived in Plymouth amongst "Castles" and "Kings".  Long term memory is supposed to be better than short so I can relate to a lot of railway related events, much better than most other things. :locomotive:

Going a bit off-topic, but can you tell this (relative) youngster how "Claughton" is pronounced? One of those issues you have when you only ever see a name written down. My head tells me "Clayton", but that's probably based on nothing.



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Posted 02 February 2018 - 12:08

Claw-tun.

A very direct descendant of the LNWR Director after whom the loco was named is a keen collector of vintage model trains, and that’s how he pronounces it.

Kevin

https://en.m.wikiped...lbert_Claughton

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Posted 02 February 2018 - 18:15

Claw-tun.

A very direct descendant of the LNWR Director after whom the loco was named is a keen collector of vintage model trains, and that’s how he pronounces it.

Kevin

https://en.m.wikiped...lbert_Claughton

I agree with ‘claw-tun’. He is/ was a distant cousin of mine. There was a school here in Dudley (closed, but the very ornate building survives) named after him. His former house, Priory Hall, is now the local Register Office, situated in the grounds of the former Dudley Priory.
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Posted 05 February 2018 - 19:50

I found myself in a dilemma over the third section, having indicated that my modelling covered both pre-grouping and early crest BR. I boastfully plumped for "mostly kits or hand built" which is perforce true of my pre-grouping modelling but far from true for my early BR stuff - though I do have quite a number of wagons from Parkside kits. I model early BR in part because it's easy with the wealth of RTR these days - particularly for the Midland division of LMR (5XP, 5MT, Crab, 4P compound, 2P; 8F, G2, 4F, 3F; 4P and 3F tanks...) - though also inspired by Terry Essery's Firing Days at Saltley - a most atmospheric book. I model pre-grouping Midland because it's what I'm really interested in. So I have different approaches to and reasons for modelling both these periods, both well before my birth!


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