97403_Ixion Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) Hi, I received my Bachmann catalogue by post from the BCC today but noticed an apparent missing definition... Each model has an Era symbol as well as various others for features such as directional lighting, DCC decoder type, sound fitted, etc.. One symbol is a 'P' in a circle, to represent 'Preserved' and another is 'W' in a square to represent 'Weathered'. However, I cannot find what 'A' in a square is meant to mean. It's not listed at the front of the catalogue, either under the Bachmann Symbol Key, nor Bachmann Era System. Some models seem to have gained this symbol from the previous year's catalogue - e.g.32-030DS (20156, R/F Red Stripe) which had DCC Sound and Era 8 symbols in the 2017 catalogue, yet now also has the 'A' symbol in the 2018 catalogue. What does it mean and where in the catalogue does it define it, if at all? Thanks in advance, Ixion Edited: changed shape to 'square'...round peg, square hole I guess! Edited January 23, 2018 by 97403_Ixion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaloak Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 I have had a look through the catalogue for any info (as you say there isnt any) or work out any idea of what it might be, but nope I havent a clue what it means either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
97403_Ixion Posted January 23, 2018 Author Share Posted January 23, 2018 Also true of the Farish catalogue too... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 The A in a square? I wondered the same thing myself. Haven't got the foggiest idea. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
97403_Ixion Posted January 23, 2018 Author Share Posted January 23, 2018 Yes, a square... oops! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted January 23, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 23, 2018 Includes a small parts accessory pack perhaps? Looking through the Bachmann catalogue, the only ones that don't seem to have the A in a box are older tooling wagons etc. Pure guesswork based on the available evidence though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
97403_Ixion Posted January 23, 2018 Author Share Posted January 23, 2018 Includes a small parts accessory pack perhaps? Looking through the Bachmann catalogue, the only ones that don't seem to have the A in a box are older tooling wagons etc. Pure guesswork based on the available evidence though. I think you may be right... I just checked a 20T toad and a TTA tanker - both did not have accessory packs (i.e. as per the catalogue)... though many wagons in the catalogue do not show 'A', yet most diesel locos do - I think just the 08s do not. Having said that, there were a pair of footsteps in an 'accessory bag' with an old 32-108V (KMRC's FGW green 08410) but I could believe it's either a typo for 08s in the catalogue or perhaps they no longer give them...? So far, your guess sounds quite plausible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted January 23, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 23, 2018 A = Anagram ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widnes Model Centre Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 The A squared does indeed mean that there is an "Accessory pack included." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted January 23, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 23, 2018 Oooh! Do I win a prize? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacon butty Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 It is mentioned at the bottom of the page with all the icons on - it is for re-runs with no change from previous runs. It's not really clear though. Hope this helps. Stuart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaloak Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 It is mentioned at the bottom of the page with all the icons on - it is for re-runs with no change from previous runs. It's not really clear though. Hope this helps. Stuart That is the suffix letter (ie 391-025A) which isnt what we are talking about, have a look on page 5, the top image is 31-910 (no suffix so a new model) but has a large A in a square, below it is 391-025A (a rerun of a previous model) but also has a large A in a square, it is the large A in the square which is the symbol in question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacon butty Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Ah yes see what you mean - thanks for the reply. I'm sure that someone from Bachmann will enlighten us shortly. Stuart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Unfortunately the A symbol was omitted from the Inside front cover of both catalogues. It should indicate that there is an accessory pack included with the model pictured. Dennis Lovett Public Relations Manager Bachmann Europe Plc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaloak Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 At least it gave us something to debate for 5 minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
truffy Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 At least it gave us something to debate for 5 minutes. There's nothing like a definitive answer for spoiling the fun! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Unfortunately the A symbol was omitted from the Inside front cover of both catalogues. It should indicate that there is an accessory pack included with the model pictured. Dennis Lovett Public Relations Manager Bachmann Europe Plc The letter A should have been included in the symbols key for this years catalogue. However it is currently still in the drawing office, but with luck it should be progressing to tooling later this year. Bachmann are hoping to have EP samples of the A available at Ally Pally next year (2019) and decorated samples by Warley, later that year. If all goes according to plan, the production A will be available in time to be included in the symbols key for the 2020 catalogue. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
97403_Ixion Posted January 23, 2018 Author Share Posted January 23, 2018 Thanks all for the replies and amusing read! I also contacted the Bachmann Collectors Club earlier today, who responded within an hour or two with the same reason given by Andy York - thanks for showing the symbol in your post too! I did wonder if 'A' implied the models came with your approval Sadly, there is no prize John M Upton - I wish there was! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
truffy Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 The letter A should have been included in the symbols key for this years catalogue. However it is currently still in the drawing office, but with luck it should be progressing to tooling later this year. Bachmann are hoping to have EP samples of the A available at Ally Pally next year (2019) and decorated samples by Warley, later that year. If all goes according to plan, the production A will be available in time to be included in the symbols key for the 2020 catalogue. And will ship from our factories in China in 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Will it have a servo motor to raise and lower the bar so that we can turn the A into the Greek L (lamda) so beloved of car manufacturers, e.g. KIΛ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Will it have a servo motor to raise and lower the bar so that we can turn the A into the Greek L (lamda) so beloved of car manufacturers, e.g. KIΛ? Somebody needs to raise the bar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Somebody needs to raise the bar. Indeed. Cars are lethal but to choose a name which could be read as “KIL” is bad PR. Besides, it upsets the pedant in me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Indeed. Cars are lethal but to choose a name which could be read as “KIL” is bad PR. Besides, it upsets the pedant in me. Yes, like the random use of the wrong Cyrillic letters to denote something Russian, like я (= ya) to denote an R. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Yes, like the random use of the wrong Cyrillic letters to denote something Russian, like я (= ya) to denote an R. Ooooh yes! Another irritant! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Francis deWeck Posted January 24, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 24, 2018 AccessoriesSymbol.jpg Ah, the issues which face editors....is the dream of retirement weighing somewhat? And good luck on that subject, too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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