RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted March 1, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 1, 2018 I can't claim to obtain results as good as yours, but they are what I use for scribing brickwork etc. An idea stolen from Geoff Kent! Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted March 2, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 2, 2018 Thanks Mike ,I’m just a beginner tbh took 3 goes to get arch how I wanted lol I’ll have a look out Geoff Kent ,has he books out ? Regards Brian He has 3 wagon building books out but I'm not aware of any structure building books, he has had quite a few articles published in various magazines, primarily in Model Railway Journal, but he is a wizard with plastic card. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 Geoff worte a 3 part series on 4mm Wagons: https://britishrailwaybooks.co.uk/books/ISBN/1874103038.php https://britishrailwaybooks.co.uk/books/ISBN/1874103240.php https://britishrailwaybooks.co.uk/books/ISBN/1874103976.php Even though these are for 4mm, I find them useful in my 7mm wagon modelling due to a fair number of prototype pics. Also this: https://britishrailwaybooks.co.uk/books/ISBN/1874103488.php If you are into Coal Wagons. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PjKing1 Posted March 2, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 2, 2018 Coming along nicely Brian some great work there with the foamex. Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddys-blues Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 That’s really lovely Brian, that will set the atmosphere nicely. Best regards Craig Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
81A Oldoak Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Finished my 21 tonne hopper wagon which will eventually go into my coke trains 725E4A65-01D6-4984-A2DD-9472597B28CE.jpeg 241CA519-07E9-41A9-8F6A-B68B145B18A1.jpeg Regards Brian Excellent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jintyman Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Superb Brian, nice to see you've got something running on video, and Mason is doing an excellent job of driving!!! Jinty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jintyman Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Now with added wing wall lol EC729492-DCEE-4961-974F-8810C9210E8F.jpeg Brian That's looking fantastic Brian, nice tones to the stonework. Jinty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jintyman Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 (edited) Thanks jints Been thinking about the bridge and I’ll need rivet detail ,what’s thoughts on how to achieve that ? Brian Plastic!!!! Lots of holes and 1 - 2mm diameter plastic rod cut off evenly for the rivets. Or......................... 2 x brass sheet, rivets punched out equally on each, and then laminated together with the rivet detail on the outside. Et Viola one steel plate bridge panel!!! Lots of work though, but of the two, I think that the plastic option is best. Someone will no doubt be along to tell you where you can buy them ready done, like Duncan Models for example..........................!!!!!! Jinty Jinty Edited March 16, 2018 by Jintyman 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simond Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 (edited) Bri, Can’t remember the maker but there are rivet transfers. Otherwise, it’s drill & pins, or dots of PVA, or offcuts of plastic rod If you can get the girders laser cut, the holes can be pre-installed! Makes pins or bits of plastic an easier option. Or as David says, riveted brass. Probably what I’d do. There may be etched girders. Skytrex do resin ones too, I think. Best Simon Edited March 16, 2018 by Simond 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jintyman Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Bri, Can’t remember the maker but there are rivet transfers. Best Simon Archers!!! Never thought of that Simon, and I was only reading someone who had used them on a Hawksworth coach build recently!!! Jinty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simond Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Bri, The car body filler approach is good. When you drill them, use a jig. Nothing too clever needed, but some way of supporting them so they’re all exactly the same. Offcuts of wood, toolmakers clamps, and a depth stop on the drill press. That way they’ll look better, and your wagon won’t rock! Best Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted March 28, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 28, 2018 Agreed that those moulded holes are shockingly bad. But it's perhaps not the right approach to the problem. Etched brass W irons much better, especially if including compensation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted March 28, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 28, 2018 Where could I get etched brass ones from Joseph ? Brian There must be loads of options out there. A quick google came up with this one: https://www.walsallmodelindustries.co.uk/product.php/90_underframe/?k=:::6862209 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simond Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 see PD recent thread where I'm using that etch - those are WEP GW 9' wheelbase wagon parts, possibly not what Bri needs. but a good Google, I'm sure there's something suitable out there! best Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jintyman Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 I think Eileens Emporium do the Bill Bedford etched W irons. Jinty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 I know they do and I've used them on a number of wagons. You get the axle guards but not the axleboxes and springs. You'll need to salvage these from your castings. https://eileensemporium.com/index.php?option=com_hikashop&ctrl=product&task=show&cid=2723&name=br-plate-w-irons-7mm&Itemid=189&category_pathway=1289 There are several styles to choose from, these might be what you need. Comes with spring wire. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) Here's an example of one I used to make a Dapol PO wagon acceptable: I also added a brake gear etch because Dapols was pretty nasty. Thank goodness Lionheart are doing the wagons now. John Edited March 28, 2018 by brossard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 I did a thread on the PO Wagon: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/116861-Dapol-rtr-po-wagon-upgrade/ You can see the steps I took. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 If I haven't posted for a while, I can't find my threads either. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/127114-another-as-yet-unnamed-7mm-layout/page-3 John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) Don't know if it is mentioned but my layout is based on Stephen Williams Faringdon. John Edit: I like the challenge of building my own turnouts. I use Peco components and have some wooden timbers on order from Intentio. Building your own makes them so much cheaper. Edited March 28, 2018 by brossard 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 I've built loads of turnouts in 00 using copper clad strip. It is very satisfying. It has taken me quite a while to refine my methods. I started the tandem using a quick template from Templot. This is essentially two turnout templates overlaid and was a little busy so difficult to see where things should go. I used the same idea inTrax 2, selecting two curved turnouts with a common track . This worked better for me because Trax 2 templates are simpler and it was easier for me to draw in the missing bits. The Peco template was a useful guide too. I never successfully built a tandem before either. I tried in code 100 00 but found that I couldn't get my iron in to attach some check rails - doh! In hindsight I might have got away with glue. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
81A Oldoak Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 I've built loads of turnouts in 00 using copper clad strip. It is very satisfying. It has taken me quite a while to refine my methods. I started the tandem using a quick template from Templot. This is essentially two turnout templates overlaid and was a little busy so difficult to see where things should go. I used the same idea inTrax 2, selecting two curved turnouts with a common track . This worked better for me because Trax 2 templates are simpler and it was easier for me to draw in the missing bits. The Peco template was a useful guide too. I never successfully built a tandem before either. I tried in code 100 00 but found that I couldn't get my iron in to attach some check rails - doh! In hindsight I might have got away with glue. John John, Here is the three-way during the early stages of construction of Cwm Bach. This particular point used PECO Indivudulay parts. My method was to work from the inside out starting with the common crossings. The crossings are soldered to thinned strips of 4mm scale pcb sleeper strip that are glued to the sleepers. This allows some scope for adjustment as construction proceeds. Cosmetic chairs are attached for the final finish. The template was drawn by hand as I have not acquired the patience to master Templot. Regards, CK 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 I do love the look of pointwork, yours looks great Chris. Your description matches well with my approach. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simond Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Bri The C/C rating is well deserved for the fence post additions, but “imaginative” would be more appropriate I think. The bridge is coming along very nicely too! Best Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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