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#26 david.hill64

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Posted 31 March 2018 - 12:46

Now the photo of the front:

 

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I spent the rest of the evening sorting out the attachement between the smokebox and saddle. Got there in the end. I'll show photos tomorrow.

 

Here it is with dome and chimney placed for photos.

 

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Posted 31 March 2018 - 12:58

Hi David,
I don't know what livery it will be in or if it will be lined. If it would be plain black then being able to remove the boiler and fire box may not bring much to the party. However, if it's lined BR green or similar, then it will be a big advantage for finishing. Can you get into the smoke box to solder a captive nut, or does the ring restrict access?

It looks like a nicely designed kit. Is it one of Geoff's or one that was bought into the range?

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Peter

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Posted 31 March 2018 - 13:15

Hi David,
I don't know what livery it will be in or if it will be lined. If it would be plain black then being able to remove the boiler and fire box may not bring much to the party. However, if it's lined BR green or similar, then it will be a big advantage for finishing. Can you get into the smoke box to solder a captive nut, or does the ring restrict access?

It looks like a nicely designed kit. Is it one of Geoff's or one that was bought into the range?

Cheers,
Peter

Hi Peter,

 

It will be BR lined black.

 

I have soldered a 6BA nut in the saddle and slotted the bottom of the smokebox. My plan is to solder another nut in the bottom of the smokebox and use this to hold a small 6BA screw. So long as this screw isn't undone too far it wlll remain in place. If it falls out...........Actually it will still be possible to replace it, just a little tricky. Photos tomorrow.

 

I have gone against the idea of drilling up from below as I think it may be difficult with the cylinders.

 

This kit was designed for Geoff by Peter Dobson, who also did the H1s, 8F and replacement chassis for several of the older kits. Peter is recovering from a stroke, otherwise I have a few other commissions for him.

 

I will be attempting my own designs when time permits. Could be a while.........................


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Posted 01 April 2018 - 10:57

David

 

What a nice build. Even more impressive with the lack of instructions. The old grey matter must be doing somersaults :scratchhead: 

 

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Posted 01 April 2018 - 11:23

Right here's the update before I go for a beer.

 

I have amended the front fixing for the boiler assembly and there is now a small screw under the saddle holding the smokebox in place using a 6BA nut soldered to the floor of the smokebox.

 

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I finished the firebox detailing, including the washout plugs, mudhole clamps and front pieces and added the boiler bands. I then divorced the loco from the valence jig and tested it on the chassis.

 

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I had to remove some footplate material by the splashers but otherwise no problems.

 

I could then fit the motor/gearbox.

 

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I had to take a little from the back of the boiler to get it to fit.

 

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Time for a gratuitous 'where we have got up to' shot.

 

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I fitted some springs to the front bogie.

 

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Then laminated the driving spring assemblies.

 

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Then, last job for the day, fitted them.

 

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Progress I feel has been remarkably swift but I will have a week off now as a business trip back to Bangkok will stop any modelling. However, I am sure I can find something to keep me amused...........

 

 

 


David

 

What a nice build. Even more impressive with the lack of instructions. The old grey matter must be doing somersaults :scratchhead:

 

Pete

Pete,

 

There are some very nice written instructions already. It's just the lack of drawings that let them down.

 

Dave


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Posted 01 April 2018 - 14:25

Sorry David.

 

But you know what they say. A picture is worth a hundred words and for a novice like myself it's very important to have the pics/drawings.

 

Looking good

 

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Posted 01 April 2018 - 19:49

Very interesting following your build.  It's looking good. What's next I wonder.


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Posted 02 April 2018 - 01:41

Very interesting following your build.  It's looking good. What's next I wonder.

Jazz, thanks. Not quite up to your speed of construction though!

 

In the queue are:

 

Connoisseur J83

DJH A3 and D49

Finney 47XX

Gladiator C4, J6, N15 and S15

 

Next up will either be the J83 or N15, depending on when the H2 is completed. I am sure that the J83 will build itself so if I have enough time after finishing the H2 to do a 'quickie' before Doncaster I will fit it in.



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Posted 02 April 2018 - 01:47

S15 and N15 sound interesting. They are both the SR version I do believe.

The Atlantic is coming on nicely. The method of holding the boiler on is good.

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Posted 02 April 2018 - 04:11

S15 and N15 sound interesting. They are both the SR version I do believe.

The Atlantic is coming on nicely. The method of holding the boiler on is good.

The N15 will be one of the ones with the 6 wheel tender and will be in BR days. The S15 will be an Exmouth Junction loco again in BR days.

 

My original plan for holding the boiler at the smokebox end didn't work. I had a nut embedded in the saddle and another nut at the bottom of the smokebox. I assumed - wrongly - that if I set this up withe everything and soldered the smokebox nut in place when the joint was tight. it would undo and go back together, but it didn't work. I then tried a long screw through the cylinder stretcher and footplate saddle, but found that when I tightened everything it stressed the frames so that they were no longer square. In the end I did what I should have done in the first place and put the screw through the saddle which is now reinforced with 6BA washers. I have also changed the fixing at the cab end. Originally this was with one screw at the top and two at the bottom corners but I have changed this to one at the top and one in the middle so that I can secure the cab floor in place. 

 

As well as making the lining of the boiler bands easier, I think it should help the splasher lining too. 


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Posted 06 April 2018 - 06:01

This is such a nice build, I have enjoyed skiving off work to read through. Seriously makes me regret moving back to 4mm.. 

 

Maybe I need one of these anyway.


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Posted 06 April 2018 - 06:42

In post 28 I mentioned some of Peter Dobson's other designs, but I forgot to mention his 'piece de resistance' - the LNER garratt. I look forward to building one of those one day.



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Posted 20 April 2018 - 01:44

Two weeks since the last post and no progress to report. I had expected to be back at the bench a week ago, but the move from Bangkok to Taoyuan was slightly more problematic than expected and I still haven't got everything in order yet.

 

What does seem to be the case is that my carefully packed box of half a dozen motor-gearbox sets hasn't made the move, so that looks like £600 down the toilet..........wibble...........


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Posted 22 April 2018 - 15:31

Hi David. Finally, I found the link for the blog! Nice job!

Sorry to hear about the missing bits. What a bummer.

Interesting build programme and there is a D30 to add to it just for good measure!

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