david.hill64 Posted March 31, 2018 Author Share Posted March 31, 2018 Now the photo of the front: I spent the rest of the evening sorting out the attachement between the smokebox and saddle. Got there in the end. I'll show photos tomorrow. Here it is with dome and chimney placed for photos. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAD Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Hi David, I don't know what livery it will be in or if it will be lined. If it would be plain black then being able to remove the boiler and fire box may not bring much to the party. However, if it's lined BR green or similar, then it will be a big advantage for finishing. Can you get into the smoke box to solder a captive nut, or does the ring restrict access? It looks like a nicely designed kit. Is it one of Geoff's or one that was bought into the range? Cheers, Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.hill64 Posted March 31, 2018 Author Share Posted March 31, 2018 (edited) Hi David, I don't know what livery it will be in or if it will be lined. If it would be plain black then being able to remove the boiler and fire box may not bring much to the party. However, if it's lined BR green or similar, then it will be a big advantage for finishing. Can you get into the smoke box to solder a captive nut, or does the ring restrict access? It looks like a nicely designed kit. Is it one of Geoff's or one that was bought into the range? Cheers, Peter Hi Peter, It will be BR lined black. I have soldered a 6BA nut in the saddle and slotted the bottom of the smokebox. My plan is to solder another nut in the bottom of the smokebox and use this to hold a small 6BA screw. So long as this screw isn't undone too far it wlll remain in place. If it falls out...........Actually it will still be possible to replace it, just a little tricky. Photos tomorrow. I have gone against the idea of drilling up from below as I think it may be difficult with the cylinders. This kit was designed for Geoff by Peter Dobson, who also did the H1s, 8F and replacement chassis for several of the older kits. Peter is recovering from a stroke, otherwise I have a few other commissions for him. I will be attempting my own designs when time permits. Could be a while......................... Edited March 31, 2018 by david.hill64 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petebe Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 David What a nice build. Even more impressive with the lack of instructions. The old grey matter must be doing somersaults Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.hill64 Posted April 1, 2018 Author Share Posted April 1, 2018 Right here's the update before I go for a beer. I have amended the front fixing for the boiler assembly and there is now a small screw under the saddle holding the smokebox in place using a 6BA nut soldered to the floor of the smokebox. I finished the firebox detailing, including the washout plugs, mudhole clamps and front pieces and added the boiler bands. I then divorced the loco from the valence jig and tested it on the chassis. I had to remove some footplate material by the splashers but otherwise no problems. I could then fit the motor/gearbox. I had to take a little from the back of the boiler to get it to fit. Time for a gratuitous 'where we have got up to' shot. I fitted some springs to the front bogie. Then laminated the driving spring assemblies. Then, last job for the day, fitted them. Progress I feel has been remarkably swift but I will have a week off now as a business trip back to Bangkok will stop any modelling. However, I am sure I can find something to keep me amused........... David What a nice build. Even more impressive with the lack of instructions. The old grey matter must be doing somersaults Pete Pete, There are some very nice written instructions already. It's just the lack of drawings that let them down. Dave 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petebe Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Sorry David. But you know what they say. A picture is worth a hundred words and for a novice like myself it's very important to have the pics/drawings. Looking good Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Very interesting following your build. It's looking good. What's next I wonder. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.hill64 Posted April 2, 2018 Author Share Posted April 2, 2018 Very interesting following your build. It's looking good. What's next I wonder. Jazz, thanks. Not quite up to your speed of construction though! In the queue are: Connoisseur J83 DJH A3 and D49 Finney 47XX Gladiator C4, J6, N15 and S15 Next up will either be the J83 or N15, depending on when the H2 is completed. I am sure that the J83 will build itself so if I have enough time after finishing the H2 to do a 'quickie' before Doncaster I will fit it in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
N15class Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 S15 and N15 sound interesting. They are both the SR version I do believe. The Atlantic is coming on nicely. The method of holding the boiler on is good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.hill64 Posted April 2, 2018 Author Share Posted April 2, 2018 S15 and N15 sound interesting. They are both the SR version I do believe. The Atlantic is coming on nicely. The method of holding the boiler on is good. The N15 will be one of the ones with the 6 wheel tender and will be in BR days. The S15 will be an Exmouth Junction loco again in BR days. My original plan for holding the boiler at the smokebox end didn't work. I had a nut embedded in the saddle and another nut at the bottom of the smokebox. I assumed - wrongly - that if I set this up withe everything and soldered the smokebox nut in place when the joint was tight. it would undo and go back together, but it didn't work. I then tried a long screw through the cylinder stretcher and footplate saddle, but found that when I tightened everything it stressed the frames so that they were no longer square. In the end I did what I should have done in the first place and put the screw through the saddle which is now reinforced with 6BA washers. I have also changed the fixing at the cab end. Originally this was with one screw at the top and two at the bottom corners but I have changed this to one at the top and one in the middle so that I can secure the cab floor in place. As well as making the lining of the boiler bands easier, I think it should help the splasher lining too. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack P Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 This is such a nice build, I have enjoyed skiving off work to read through. Seriously makes me regret moving back to 4mm.. Maybe I need one of these anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.hill64 Posted April 6, 2018 Author Share Posted April 6, 2018 In post 28 I mentioned some of Peter Dobson's other designs, but I forgot to mention his 'piece de resistance' - the LNER garratt. I look forward to building one of those one day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.hill64 Posted April 20, 2018 Author Share Posted April 20, 2018 Two weeks since the last post and no progress to report. I had expected to be back at the bench a week ago, but the move from Bangkok to Taoyuan was slightly more problematic than expected and I still haven't got everything in order yet. What does seem to be the case is that my carefully packed box of half a dozen motor-gearbox sets hasn't made the move, so that looks like £600 down the toilet..........wibble........... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkallan Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Hi David. Finally, I found the link for the blog! Nice job! Sorry to hear about the missing bits. What a bummer. Interesting build programme and there is a D30 to add to it just for good measure! Email soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.hill64 Posted May 2, 2018 Author Share Posted May 2, 2018 (edited) After what seems like an age I am back to the bench. So work continues on the chassis and I have found the first real problem with the kit: not too serious but a severe niggle. Here are the two levers that go on the front brake shaft: The problem is there should be two of each. So I tack soldered them to some scratch etch, cut out and drilled two more. When Peter is better I will ask him to add them to the etch. Here are the 4 in place: Adding the brake shoes posed no problems. I have now completed the brake beam and pull rod assemblies and will post photos later. The atmosphere here is quite corrosive: the etches tarnish very quickly. I am very close to finishing the chassis though and will be able to get it cleaned up and primed. Edited May 3, 2018 by david.hill64 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.hill64 Posted May 15, 2018 Author Share Posted May 15, 2018 No post for a while, but work has progressed. No photos just yet, they will follow. I have made up the cylinder assemblies and connecting rods. No issues at all with these. However, once I tried them in place the note in the instructions that you need to do something about the front crankpin, There really is very limited clearance. So I removed the rear laminate from the boss at the front of the coupling rods and drilled out the front side 4.2mm. I will amend the instructions to suggest drilling the outer lamination before soleding in place. That then leaves a nice recess for the inverted tapped crankpin bush to be fitted. I have also drilled out some holes for pick ups and the frames now await the whitemetal axleboxes, springs and brake cylinders before cleaning and painting. I need to crack on as I am hoping to have this on display at Doncaster in 2 weeks. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.hill64 Posted June 6, 2018 Author Share Posted June 6, 2018 Trevose Head has now been picked up by Paul Moore for painting. Now where did I put those photos.....? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ianmaccormac Posted June 10, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 10, 2018 I would be interested to see them! Cheers Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.hill64 Posted June 11, 2018 Author Share Posted June 11, 2018 I would be interested to see them! Cheers Ian Unfortunately they disappeared into the ether. Doubly unfortunate as I wanted to include them in the supplementary instructions I am writing. I'll have to do some detailed shots as soon as it comes back from Paul. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.hill64 Posted June 12, 2018 Author Share Posted June 12, 2018 I managed to find some of the missing photos. However, none of the ready to paint model, so we will have to wait until Paul has done his work (very soon I think). Pony brakes added: Pull rods ready to attach: Gearbox reaction mount built from scrap etch: Motor and pickups in place: Very limited clearance between the connecting rod and front coupling rod bush. Mr Gladiator has now ordered a supply of threaded crankpin bushes. These will be in two types. One plain that looks like a normal Slater's bush and the other with the circular rim replaced by an 8BA hexagon so that it can be screwed tight. These will be useful where clearances are tight. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.hill64 Posted June 21, 2018 Author Share Posted June 21, 2018 Trevose Head has now emerged from Paul Moore's magician's workshop, and looks good for the experience! Now back to Sir Bors............ 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium AdeMoore Posted June 21, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 21, 2018 Looks amazing great craftsmanship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 That looks very, very nice David. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
N15class Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Looks very elegant in BR black. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Pulham Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Very nice, I do hope my Ace C1 looks as good when finished. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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