vectispete Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Does any kind soul out there have any late 1940's/early 1950's photos of The Tourist train that ran Ventnor - Newport - Freshwater as, I think, a 5 coach train. I am looking to model Ningwood in EM gauge 4mm and have a varied selection of trains to use but would ideally like to run a realistic named train 'Tourist' so could do with an idea of coach formation. Any help would be gratefully received Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris45lsw Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Does any kind soul out there have any late 1940's/early 1950's photos of The Tourist train that ran Ventnor - Newport - Freshwater as, I think, a 5 coach train. I am looking to model Ningwood in EM gauge 4mm and have a varied selection of trains to use but would ideally like to run a realistic named train 'Tourist' so could do with an idea of coach formation. Any help would be gratefully received Pete I'm not sure about the rest of the train but it incorporated the unique Brighton Brake Composite Saloon, diagram 438, No. 6986. It was rebuilt as a breakdown van in 1959, becoming DS70008. Chris KT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vectispete Posted March 15, 2018 Author Share Posted March 15, 2018 I'm not sure about the rest of the train but it incorporated the unique Brighton Brake Composite Saloon, diagram 438, No. 6986. It was rebuilt as a breakdown van in 1959, becoming DS70008. Chris KT Hi Chris Yes that is the only coach that I am aware of and have a model in the process of being built in it's 1950 guise. I am just struggling with the other 4 coaches used, whether they were the same coaches used each time or whether 6986 was added to a standard 4 coach set that the Island tended to run. Regards Pete , Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWCR Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Hello Pre BR the Tourist was normally run with an LCDR 4 coach bogie set, often set 495 or 496, reinforced with the LBSC saloon or the ex IWCR railmotor carriage. After 1949 the train was normally run with one of the standard Ventnor line 6 coach sets. The use of the LBSC saloon in public traffic after this was very infrequent. Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vectispete Posted March 16, 2018 Author Share Posted March 16, 2018 Hello Pre BR the Tourist was normally run with an LCDR 4 coach bogie set, often set 495 or 496, reinforced with the LBSC saloon or the ex IWCR railmotor carriage. After 1949 the train was normally run with one of the standard Ventnor line 6 coach sets. The use of the LBSC saloon in public traffic after this was very infrequent. Pete Hi Pete Many thanks for that information. Do you think 6 coaches would still have been used, especially over the Newport to Freshwater section? Kind regards Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWCR Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Yes the 6 coach set would work all the way. E1 hauled to Newport, then an O2 for Freshwater, although the Freshwater line had some nasty gradients these were short and not a problem for a through train. Freshwaters platform was extended several times over the years to allow for the bigger trains. The smaller station stops were omitted. Although the Tourist was noted as normally being a Ventnor line set post 1949, the replacement set 496 (a Newport one) which was only 4 carriages had the SECR composite 6375 within its makeup, this still has the mounting brackets fitted for the Tourist headboard. Photos of the Tourist in the last few weeks of the Freshwater line show set 495, also a 4 coach Newport set hence the use of a Ventnor line set was not exclusive. Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vectispete Posted March 16, 2018 Author Share Posted March 16, 2018 Yes the 6 coach set would work all the way. E1 hauled to Newport, then an O2 for Freshwater, although the Freshwater line had some nasty gradients these were short and not a problem for a through train. Freshwaters platform was extended several times over the years to allow for the bigger trains. The smaller station stops were omitted. Although the Tourist was noted as normally being a Ventnor line set post 1949, the replacement set 496 (a Newport one) which was only 4 carriages had the SECR composite 6375 within its makeup, this still has the mounting brackets fitted for the Tourist headboard. Photos of the Tourist in the last few weeks of the Freshwater line show set 495, also a 4 coach Newport set hence the use of a Ventnor line set was not exclusive. Pete excellent information - thank you. do you know where I may be able to find any photos of this train? I do have all of the 'usual' IOWBooks and there aren't many photos of the Tourist. I will look through My books for photos of 6375 and sets 495 and 496. Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWCR Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 (edited) Branch Lines to Newport has photos taken at Newport in Sep 1953 showing SECR 6371 (Saloon composite) with a Tourist board and LBSC 4163 (6 Comp brake Third) with the Tourist destination board, both vehicles are part of set 495, the other carriages in this set (not pictured) were SECR 4135 (4 Comp brake Third) and SECR 2443 (8 1/2 Comp Third). Pete Edited March 17, 2018 by IWCR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vectispete Posted March 18, 2018 Author Share Posted March 18, 2018 Branch Lines to Newport has photos taken at Newport in Sep 1953 showing SECR 6371 (Saloon composite) with a Tourist board and LBSC 4163 (6 Comp brake Third) with the Tourist destination board, both vehicles are part of set 495, the other carriages in this set (not pictured) were SECR 4135 (4 Comp brake Third) and SECR 2443 (8 1/2 Comp Third). Pete This would have been around the time the this train ceased too. Many thanks for the information Pete, much appreciated. Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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