RMweb Premium Blobrick Posted March 18, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 18, 2018 Gents I Like to ask if anyone has attempted to remove the lining on the latest Hornby version of the old Mainline B set coach? I am attempting to replicate the coaches which ran on the Kingsbridge branch toward the end of the branch's life. Whilst the model in question is not the most accurate or even the right type for the branch, it’s the best available in the RTR sector today (Hint Hint Mr Hornby!!) I am wondering if its possible to remove the lining without having to repaint the coach. Thanks in advance Bob C Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted March 18, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 18, 2018 Be careful as the old Mainline mouldings don't like abrasive fluids like white spirit to remove insignia and lining. Even something like Modelset might leave a shiny surface when removing the lining. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Blobrick Posted March 18, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 18, 2018 Be careful as the old Mainline mouldings don't like abrasive fluids like white spirit to remove insignia and lining. Even something like Modelset might leave a shiny surface when removing the lining. Right thanks for that Rob mmmmmmmm possibly "T" cut and a cotton bud then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Blobrick Posted March 18, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 18, 2018 Be careful as the old Mainline mouldings don't like abrasive fluids like white spirit to remove insignia and lining. Even something like Modelset might leave a shiny surface when removing the lining. Has anyone else got any ideas please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted March 18, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 18, 2018 (edited) Nail varnish remover does it for me, with Acetone, just light touch, it’ll come loose very quickly, and only on the area to remove, it’ll unstick a lot of things, so caution it’s easy to make a mess, but it’s quick. Edited March 18, 2018 by adb968008 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Blobrick Posted March 18, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 18, 2018 Nail varnish remover does it for me, with Acetone, just light touch, it’ll come loose very quickly, and only on the area to remove, it’ll unstick a lot of things, so caution it’s easy to make a mess, but it’s quick. Sounds an interesting idea, thank you for that, l ll be raiding my wife's supply tonight! Bob C Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted March 18, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 18, 2018 I would prefer to repaint the coach, as you are (assumption being made here) going for a plain unlined livery, 1956 maroon or 1949 crimson. Take the coach apart and remove the glazing; you can paint the interior and put some passengers in as well if you want, and this makes a big difference to the appearance of the model. I repainted a very old plain maroon set dating from Airfix days recently into crimson, and took the opportunity to fill in the incorrect window in the guard's compartment (left hand end each side of the set) with milliput while I was at it. I also replaced the flush glazing with ordinary plastiglaze, which I was not initially sure about. In the event, the loss of the prismatic effect on the supplied glazing, which had become fogged over time, made the windows look better in my view; the set looks much more realistic and will stand cursory comparison with a Comet kit, and I haven't even had a go at the underframe and bogies yet! Number transfers are available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Sidelines Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 The old Airfix / Mailine / Dapol / early Hornby coaches are all relatively cheap secondhand. Choose what best suits your purpose. All my old coaches have been refitted with Hornby metal wheels. I am guessing that the underframes will be interchangeable and you could swap your latest Horny for any of the old ones.Might save you less heartache than scraping / sanding lining. I have two Blog Posts dealing with these particular coaches: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/blog/880/entry-15937-%E2%80%98b%E2%80%99-set-couplings-and-colours/ http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/blog/880/entry-16042-the-ex-gwr-%E2%80%98b%E2%80%99-set-continued/Ray Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold sjrixon Posted March 18, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 18, 2018 You filled in the window? Is it double doors on one side and single on the other then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Sidelines Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 (edited) Hello Scott Not sure who you are asking. You filled in the window? Is it double doors on one side and single on the other then? I don't do exciting things like filling doors and windows. You might have spotted a pair of Bachmann Mk1 suburbans (brake 2nd and composite) Ray Edited March 18, 2018 by Silver Sidelines Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisf Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Blobrick, do not forget that those B sets were used on the Kingsbridge branch prior to 1956. Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted March 19, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 19, 2018 You filled in the window? Is it double doors on one side and single on the other then? No, double doors both sides. The window I mean (sorry, should have been more specific) is the one between the door marked 'Guard', which has a droplight window, and the rearmost passenger compartment of the left hand coach when you look at the set from the side. The coach sides are mirror images of each other on the model, but not in reality and this window is not there. The one opposite, which provides light for the guard's desk and pigeon holes, is, and must be retained on the model. Starting at the leff hand end, luggage compartment doors 2x with droplights, guard's door with droplight, then the compartments, then the other coach; compartments, window for guard's desk, guard's door with droplight, and 2x luggage compartment doors with droplights. The other side is the same, and not a mirror image. I used milliput, but any similar material would do. Slightly overfill the reveal, so that you have material to smooth down to a good finish level with the coach side. In the case of milliput, a drop of warm water before the stuff dries out will help this process. I initially rubbed the milliput down with my finger to get close, then ran a straight edge across, then filed to finish when the milliput had dried. I used Humbrol Acrylic crimson, RC423, to paint the coaches, and found it was able to cover the different colour of the milliput filled window in two coats; I am very happy with the finish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold sjrixon Posted March 19, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 19, 2018 That one then! Thanks (I know, wrong colour coach ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
locoholic Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 That one then! 20180319_161913_LI.jpg Thanks (I know, wrong colour coach ) If I've read it correctly, the window you've pointed the arrow to is the one that should be there. It's the one on the other side that shouldn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold sjrixon Posted March 19, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 19, 2018 Yes... You are correct.. That arrow is for the one that should stay! Click http://www.gwr.org.uk/b-set-notes.html First picture.. Clear now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Blobrick Posted March 22, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 22, 2018 Blobrick, do not forget that those B sets were used on the Kingsbridge branch prior to 1956. Chris Hi Chris Yes l ve got a pair in crimson already, l m looking for another to make up a single coach with a southern 4 wheel cct. But l m having trouble finding a maroon version to run with the Collett 3rd brake l got, I was hoping there was an easy fix to remove the lining ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Flying Pig Posted March 23, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 23, 2018 I Like to ask if anyone has attempted to remove the lining on the latest Hornby version of the old Mainline B set coach? Be careful as the old Mainline mouldings don't like abrasive fluids like white spirit to remove insignia and lining. Even something like Modelset might leave a shiny surface when removing the lining.Are you possibly at cross purposes here? Does the caveat about removing the lining apply to current production? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisf Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Hi Chris Yes l ve got a pair in crimson already, l m looking for another to make up a single coach with a southern 4 wheel cct. But l m having trouble finding a maroon version to run with the Collett 3rd brake l got, I was hoping there was an easy fix to remove the lining ! Remember also that they were permanently coupled and therefore could not run singly, which is why they were exchanged for a type that could. Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigtech Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 (edited) Hello Gents, it looks like youve got the window problem sorted now. I did much the same thing as Johnster- but instead used 'niceday' typewriter correction fluid to fill the redundant window recesses!! Article about it here in my blog:http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/blog/1563/entry-19768-sproston-getting-the-b-set-back-into-service/ Regards (SIGTECH) Steve. Edited March 23, 2018 by sigtech Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted March 23, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 23, 2018 Are you possibly at cross purposes here? Does the caveat about removing the lining apply to current production? My experience was with the old 70s model not the newer produced versions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted March 23, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 23, 2018 I still think the best result will be achieved with a repaint, even into unlined maroon, if the OP is comfortable with this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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