Craigw Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 I have been building the Mallard Loriot D kit recently and becoming progressively more troubled as I go on. Unless I am reading things wrongly, the model can be built to be a G1 or a G14. However, it only has the D/C brake lever for the G14 as against the lever needed for the G1. But, it does not have the outside clasp brakes required for the G14. The ends are closer in length to the G14 (the G1 should be 1' 10" as against 2" for the G14) The well is 14' long against the 15' of the g1 and G14. In summary, it is not really accurate for either, though I am inclined to do the lever brake and make it a G1. In addition, it does not have the lashing holes in the side rails that both types had. Am I understanding things correctly here? Regards, Craig W Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bécasse Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Mallard kits are very long in the tooth, more or less dating from the days when much less information was readily available and when models that were more or less right were considered quite acceptable by most modellers (not least because they knew no better). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darwinian Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 (edited) Craig W Yes I believe you are correct. I have one I built back when they came out and comparing with the diagrams in Russell GWR wagon plans the well is too short although the overall length is correct for a G1. I suspect the issue with the holes along the side rails was that they line up with the floor as well as making them very weak. It sits a bit low too although I am not sure why, maybe the wheels it was designed for were slightly larger than the ones I used (early ultrascale I think rather than Gibson). Edited March 31, 2018 by Darwinian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigw Posted April 2, 2018 Author Share Posted April 2, 2018 Becasse, I think your comments sum things up nicely. Darwinian, I have gone over everything and checked it out again and what you said (and I thought) is correct. There is a 6" difference in length between a G1 and a G14 so building both from the same kit seems challenging. Mine is up on wheels and it does indeed sit low. I have a sneaking feeling that the GA of a passenger rated wagon (with 3'7" wheels) as shown in the GWR wagon plan book may have been used for some dimensions. Given my pedantic nature, I am not pleased to have discovered all this but I will try and get the dratted thing finished anyway. I have attached a pic of the current state of play of this and a Perseverance W3 Regards, Craig w 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Grifone Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 (edited) The buffer centre line of well wagons was generally lower than other vehicles*, especially if loaded. The cattle wagon actually looks high, but that might be me. (Probably is!) The situation is not helped by some kit manufacturers (Parkside for example) designing their kits for 12mm dia. wheels. Fitting the proper size lifts them too high. it's only a fraction of a millimtre but shows. * I'll check when I dig out my copy of 'The Book'. EDIT G1 3' 3", G2 3' 4½" according to Atkins et al. Edited April 10, 2018 by Il Grifone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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