WIMorrison Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 I picked this loco up yesterday and it is a lovely runner - very smooth and silent, plus it pull a ton - but with 8 driven wheels and traction types on 2 it should pull well! I think it is all original, even the paintwork and all I can see to identify it is Arnold, Germany written in the casting at the bottom - but did they make H0e locomotives - if so when? Any idea would be really good as I would like to know about it before I start hacking it apart to fit a decoder (assuming that I do eventually) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meld Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Hi, The chassis looks to be an N Gauge V100 Chassis ( DB class 211/212 Bo-Bo DH locomotives ), as to the body .. sorry I cannot help with that. Meld Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 To The best of my knowledge, in N Gauge ( which I have 'done' since it was first marketed) Arnold have never made any H0e items, so it must be an alternative body on the V100 chassis. It has a familiar look to it though but just what escapes me! I would be interested to know though! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kernowtim Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 (edited) Derived from something like this Lilliput model perchance? Edited April 8, 2018 by kernowtim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatC Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Is the body white metal? Cab looks like a Chivers (now Five79) Festiniog Harlech Castle. Possibly the long bonnet is bashed from the two from the same kit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIMorrison Posted April 8, 2018 Author Share Posted April 8, 2018 Somehow I have managed to delete the post that showed the inside of the loco and enabled you to see that if it is a kitbash it is very professional kit bash as you can see there are no marks of joining different bits together and they have the same solid colour through out. the body fits the chassis very snuggly with the 'padding' fitting exactly with no space left - not the mark of a kitbash that I am sued to see. looking at it in detail it really looks like a single high density plastic casting - I now don't think it is metal as it doesn't have the cold touch, but it isn't the thin plastic I am used. A mystery perhaps - nice looking mystery, but a mystery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Still pondering this one, it stirs a memory, I bought my first H0e around '69, and I also started in N Gauge around the same time, I also used Arnold chassis for Peco 009 white metal kits, but I can definitely say that Arnold were not involved with H0e (if they were they kept it very quiet!) The Cassis itself dates back quite a few years, not the made in WEST Germany on the base, ( although for some time after reunification items still appeared with West Germany on them) The chassis also has quite wide wheel treads and slotted screws (although these are used still used by some manufacturers such as Halling/Stangl/Ferrotrain on some items). The name on the loco is intruiging and would seem to indicate it was not named, by the owner in a non English speaking country, thus indicating a possible UK previous owner, I have had a quick scan through some Austrian NG books ( Schmallspurig durch Osterriech etc) and some old CMs but nothing came to light. Anyway you have bought something unusual and unique so enjoy it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 in the underside view of the body looks like a single moulding but the cab looks like its from a BR 04 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 Is it a resin casting, or a plastic injection moulding ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIMorrison Posted April 9, 2018 Author Share Posted April 9, 2018 (edited) My theory is that it is a resin casting as it weighs much more than plastic - and it is heavier than I would expect a plastic model to be. Having had a more detailed look at the chassis this morning - excellent tip that it is a v100 - prior to DCC conversion I am now convinced it is a 3rd party model, i.e. not from Arnold. My reasons for this are that a glue has been applied to hold in all components - might be a superglue, might be a resin (shiny and clear), but the motor has been glued in, the wiper contract from the wheels have been glued in which is making it difficult to follow the instructions I found for converting to DCC as the wiring has also been amended - very well altered, but altered none the less as the motor is now directly connected to the chassis under the motor which I can get out as it is glued. If only the person who modified the chassis had left the original Arnold electrical contacts it would have been a 5 minute job, now I need to think carefully about how to make the change - specifically isolating the motor from the chassis. Ideas accepted Edited April 9, 2018 by WIMorrison Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIMorrison Posted April 18, 2018 Author Share Posted April 18, 2018 Now running beautifully after I bought a second hand motor from Germany and made a couple of bits that I couldn't extract from the old chassis as they had been glued in I do have an issue though that when I cleaned the wheels properly I discovered that one of the traction tyres wasn't a tyre - it was dirt and I therefore need something to replace the tyre or a couple of axles without tyres (preferred solution). I have emailed Hornby who now seem to own Arnold but haven't had any answers and the Arnold dealer in UK (according to Hornby website) will only order parts f I give him a number - I said I would have asked for the wheelsets by part-number if I knew them and the reason I was asking the authorised dealer was because I don't know the number but that didn't seem to register does anyone happen to know where or how I could find the part number - please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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