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I picked this loco up yesterday and it is a lovely runner - very smooth and silent, plus it pull a ton - but with 8 driven wheels and traction types on 2 it should pull well!

 

I think it is all original, even the paintwork and all I can see to identify it is Arnold, Germany written in the casting at the bottom - but did they make H0e locomotives - if so when?

 

Any idea would be really good as I would like to know about it before I start hacking it apart to fit a decoder (assuming that I do eventually)

 

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To The  best of my knowledge,  in  N Gauge ( which  I  have 'done'  since  it  was  first  marketed)

 

Arnold  have  never made  any  H0e  items, so it  must  be an alternative  body on the V100 chassis.

 

It  has  a  familiar  look to  it though but  just  what  escapes  me!  I would  be interested  to know  though!

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Somehow I have managed to delete the post that showed the inside of the loco and enabled you to see that if it is a kitbash it is very professional kit bash

 

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as you can see there are no marks of joining different bits together and they have the same solid colour through out. 

 

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the body fits the chassis very snuggly with the 'padding' fitting exactly with no space left - not the mark of a kitbash that I am sued to see. looking at it in detail it really looks like a single high density plastic casting - I now don't think it is metal as it doesn't have the cold touch, but it isn't the thin plastic I am used.

 

A mystery perhaps - nice looking mystery, but a mystery.

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Still pondering  this  one,  it  stirs  a  memory,  I bought  my  first H0e  around '69,  and  I  also   started  in  N Gauge  around  the  same  time,  I also  used  Arnold  chassis  for  Peco 009 white metal kits,  but  I can definitely  say  that  Arnold  were  not involved  with  H0e  (if  they  were  they  kept  it  very  quiet!)

 

The  Cassis itself dates  back quite  a  few  years,  not  the  made in WEST  Germany on the  base,  ( although for  some  time  after  reunification  items  still appeared with West Germany on them)  The  chassis  also  has  quite  wide wheel treads  and slotted  screws (although these  are  used still used  by  some  manufacturers  such as  Halling/Stangl/Ferrotrain on  some  items).

 

The  name on  the  loco  is  intruiging and  would seem to indicate it  was  not  named, by  the  owner in  a non English speaking  country, thus  indicating a  possible UK previous  owner,

 

I have  had  a  quick scan  through  some  Austrian NG books  ( Schmallspurig  durch Osterriech  etc)  and   some  old CMs but  nothing  came  to  light.

 

Anyway  you  have  bought  something  unusual  and  unique  so  enjoy  it! 

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My theory is that it is a resin casting as it weighs much more than plastic - and it is heavier than I would expect a plastic model to be.

 

Having had a more detailed look at the chassis this morning - excellent tip that it is a v100 - prior to DCC conversion I am now convinced it is a 3rd party model, i.e. not from Arnold. My reasons for this are that a glue has been applied to hold in all components - might be a superglue, might be a resin (shiny and clear), but the motor has been glued in, the wiper contract from the wheels have been glued in which is making it difficult to follow the instructions I found for converting to DCC as the wiring has also been amended - very well altered, but altered none the less as the motor is now directly connected to the chassis under the motor which I can get out as it is glued.

 

If only the person who modified the chassis had left the original Arnold electrical contacts it would have been a 5 minute job, now I need to think carefully about how to make the change - specifically isolating the motor from the chassis. 

 

Ideas accepted :)

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  • 2 weeks later...

Now​ running beautifully after I bought a second hand motor from Germany and made a couple of bits that I couldn't extract from the old chassis as they had been glued in :(

 

​I do have an issue though that when I cleaned the wheels properly I discovered that one of the traction tyres wasn't a tyre - it was dirt and I therefore need something to replace the tyre or a couple of axles without tyres (preferred solution). I have emailed Hornby who now seem to own Arnold but haven't had any answers and the Arnold dealer in UK (according to Hornby website) will only order parts f I give him a number - I said I would have asked for the wheelsets by part-number if I knew them and the reason I was asking the authorised dealer was because I don't know the number but that didn't seem to register :(

 

​does anyone happen to know where or how I could find the part number - please :)

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