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The OO version will be at the Maidenhead Club's summer show at the Knowl Hill Village Hall on Sat 9th June, displayed as a 'work in progress'  - I'll be working on the scenics in between shunting moves!

 

Ah, a diary date to note!  Alas Flic's Café just along the road from the Village Hall would appear to have shut down

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While not hugely important (as my plan, and the layout's track is now fixed down!) does the relevant issue (Vol 23: Berkshire) of R A Cooke's series of Track Diagram booklets on the GWR/WR show the Signal Works in detail, please?

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Many thanks to Clive of this parish for the mutually agreeable trade at DEMU Showcase this weekend - I acquired his scratchbuilt 4mm R&H 88DS and Barclay 06 models in exchange for the cost of his Saturday night curry!.

 

Repaints into BR Blue beckon and I'll need to add the solebar weights to the 88DS, along with retro-fitting oval buffers. Can't promise all that'll be done for Saturday (Knowl Hill), but I will have the locos with me at the show, might even do the changes as part of the demo. 

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The Coles road crane also appears in the background of this fascinating photo of 97020:

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And that looks suspiciously like a re-bodied 21t mineral behind the 2 opens. Luckily, I have one or two in the kit stash :)

 

Edit - any thoughts as to the load on the wagon (likely a Winkle) in front of the 12t van in the centre - poles with a baseplate by the look of it?? They don't look like signal posts... maybe some kind of handrail stanchions??

 

Other recent photo finds show stacks of tube of a size suitable for signal posts, the plethora of cable drums, both loaded and empty, steel cabinets and components thereof and semi-completed signal posts and gantries - regarding the movement of signal posts, when new signal constructed in the Works were sent to site on Prawns presumably they were less arms and other sticky-out bits like balance arms, cranks and lamps??

 

If 'raw' posts, how long was the buried section?? Say for a 'standard ' 20ft tall signal post, what was the actual post length?

 

Was the same true of removed signals coming back to the Works for component salvage, or were these complete signals chained onto Prawns?? I picked up a few Ratio GW signal kits recently (round post for new and 'square' post for old) to use as loads on my Prawns.

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The Coles road crane also appears in the background of this fascinating photo of 97020:

23952943954_05851cd796_b.jpg97020 by Paul  Corrie, on Flickr

 

Edit - any thoughts as to the load on the wagon (likely a Winkle) in front of the 12t van in the centre - poles with a baseplate by the look of it?? They don't look like signal posts... maybe some kind of handrail stanchions??

 

Signal and Telecommunications, could be telephone mounting posts or similar?

 

Mike.

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Another interesting photo which I rediscovered on the office pc - I think I'd been emailed it to use on the cover of a DEMU TVAG showguide (which used to be held at Knowl Hill Village Hall, where the layout will be tomorrow!) some time around 2009. So clearly the idea must have been percolating through the neurons since then. 

 

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97804 shunts a  shiny new-looking OCA loaded with cable drums. Another wagon type to add to the list.

To the left is GW inspection saloon DW80970 (which now resides on the NNR)

Hidden away between 12t vans but just visible above the nose of 97804 is the 88DS 97020, probably withdrawn by this date.

And there's the Coles crane again.

 

 

The 'paving' on the 4mm layout is about 75% done, using 2mm EVA play foam sheet and layers of card to give a 'road' surface about 0.5mm below the railhead. Much fun and games getting the 4' inlaid surface in around point blades, check rails, etc. May get the rest done tonight, otherwise it'll be done at the show tomorrow and as I am billed as a work in progress, I'd better work!

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Another invaluable shot there from a fascinating place. Remember seeing No 20 parked up at Vastern Road.

Also remember seeing 97804 at Reading depot open day in 85. Pretty sure it was giving rides up and down the sidings in an 5 plank open wagon.

Also have memories of seeing 06002 partly stripped for spares at the open day as well. Wish I had been able to spend more time down there, 

but being I think 10 when it closed and living in TIlehurst at the time me parents would have gone mad!

 

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Another invaluable shot there from a fascinating place. Remember seeing No 20 parked up at Vastern Road.

Also remember seeing 97804 at Reading depot open day in 85. Pretty sure it was giving rides up and down the sidings in an 5 plank open wagon.

Also have memories of seeing 06002 partly stripped for spares at the open day as well. Wish I had been able to spend more time down there, 

but being I think 10 when it closed and living in TIlehurst at the time me parents would have gone mad!

 

Cheers Trailrage  

 

Indeed, I also had 97804 for haulage that day - 2 x 5 plank opens and Toad, there are a number of photos around the 'net.

 

The layout seemed very well received for it's debut outing at Maidenhead club's summer show in Knowl Hill. In between moves I finished the concrete paving, constructed the remaining structures and added a couple more items of stock.

 

Better still, a couple of retired Reading railwaymen were kind enough to share their recollections of the Works and also pointed me in the direction of the Reading General Station facebook group where a number of useful photos can be found. 

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WBFTWI matey! Just been goggling Reading Signal Works- on one pic of number 20, it looks suspiciously like a sand wagon behind it! Lord alone knows what its doing there. My uneducated guess would be its an internal user, possibly for carting scrap around the site, like the other 2 opens on your earlier pic.......

Any pics of yesterday's travails?

 

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WBFTWI matey! Just been goggling Reading Signal Works- on one pic of number 20, it looks suspiciously like a sand wagon behind it! Lord alone knows what its doing there. My uneducated guess would be its an internal user, possibly for carting scrap around the site, like the other 2 opens on your earlier pic.......

Any pics of yesterday's travails?

 

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A lot of sand wagons ended up with the S&T I remember seeing them loaded with cable drums quite often. They usually had the KDB prefix - there are some pics on Paul Bartletts site Edited by 101
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Hold the presses.......further seeking has found a pic of 97804 and there are definitely 2 sand wagons in the shot! Sounds like a Red Panda kit moment to me...

 

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Yup, a number of 13t sand tipplers visible in the photographic evidence and duly reproduced via a Red Panda and 2 Bachmanns.

 

I'll edit this post later with some pics from yesterday, once the phone has charged

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A lot of sand wagons ended up with the S&T I remember seeing them loaded with cable drums quite often. They usually had the KDB prefix - there are some pics on Paul Bartletts site

When the Llanelli area was re-signalled, I recollect them being used to deliver concrete signal troughs and lids; I can't be 100% certain, but I think the U-channels came in the 'Taunton Concrete' wagons with the low floor, and the (lighter) lids in the Sand wagons.

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A couple of photos from yesterday's show, showing the display stand (one of Tim Horn's excellent lasercut ply products) in use as the fiddlestick support.

In due course, some form of support for the main board will be added to raise the viewing height up some 12" to align with the top 'shelf' of the display stand.

 

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sort of OT shot of 97020 at RG Depot

 

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97804 at reading depot

 

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In recent weeks, I've been completing the scenic works and structures, adding the LED lighting and painting the fascia.

 

The paving was finished (after some experimentation) with an old, old tin of Humbrol's RAF Hemp over a base coat of 'textured grime'.

 

I've even knocked up a new battery handheld controller (6 x rechargeable AAs, a cheap pwm module and dpdt switch all fitting in a 0.2l Really Useful Box)

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Is that a tube wagon creeping into shot, could 20 have brought that with it to assist in track circuiting?

 

Mike.

 

Looks more like one of the Whitings (GWR lwb 2 plank low) to me, Mike.

 

Not sure if 20 had to have a match wagon for it's occasional forays to/from the depot as there are quite a few photos around of it running light engine, so I'd assume generally not?

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The annual summer gathering of the STORMeX crew (trains, beers, bbq, cricket) saw RSW displayed on it's wall bracket for the first time, up at eye-level (5'6" ish). Obviously I'd not considered how a fiddle-stick might be used in this format as I was only planning to store the layout out of the way on the bracket in due course, but it did look pretty damn good, almost like a piece of art!

 

42949538784_48cd06605a_b.jpgDSC_0014 by Alan Monk, on Flickr

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42949552134_e946bd304d_b.jpgDSC_0015 by Alan Monk, on Flickr

 

Young Pixie of this parish had his new Japanese N scale plank, also based on a Ikea Lack shelf and similarly mounted adjacent to RSW and at the same height.

 

41857972400_bf237a04a7_b.jpgDSC_0019 by Alan Monk, on Flickr

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