RMweb Gold Regularity Posted April 13, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 13, 2018 Just a quick question, but do any of you know of any drawings available for Ruston-Bucyrus cranes? I am interested in the 22-RB, but the question is true generally. Supplementary question: How accurate/close to scale is the Langley kit? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osgood Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 (edited) Best sources are the manuals for the machines - they usually contain several highly detailed partial G.A.s. They will need to be scaled off as often to no specific scale in order to fit publication space, but that isn't difficult. Sometimes parts manuals do not have any assembly drawings - best to find the instruction manual. Sorry I don't have any 22RB manuals. Edited April 13, 2018 by Osgood Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 You could try the County Archive for the county in which the head office was located; material such as drawings was often deposited with them. In R-B's case, this would be Lincoln. https://www.lincolnshire.gov.uk/libraries-and-archives/lincolnshire-archives/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RMweb Gold Regularity Posted April 13, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 13, 2018 You could try the County Archive for the county in which the head office was located; material such as drawings was often deposited with them. In R-B's case, this would be Lincoln. https://www.lincolnshire.gov.uk/libraries-and-archives/lincolnshire-archives/ Thanks. Had already looked there, but not found anything on-line - might be my failure with the search engine. I wondered if there were any books or similar easily available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian Smeeton Posted April 13, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 13, 2018 The Museum of Lincolnshire Life had quite a bit about Rustons, generally, when I was there quite a few years ago. They may be worth contacting, too. https://www.lincolnshire.gov.uk/heritage-and-tourism/museum-of-lincolnshire-life/ Regards Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 The 'Museum of Lincolnshire Life' may hold something:- https://www.lincolnshire.gov.uk/heritage-and-tourism/museum-of-lincolnshire-life/ This firm appears to have taken over the name, and may retain some drawings:- https://www.rbcranes.co.uk/models Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osgood Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 (edited) These are some typical drawings from a 38RB Instruction Manual: Sorry about orientation! Tony Edited April 13, 2018 by Osgood 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osgood Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 If you are indeed in Rutland a good place to try locally would be Rocks By Rail at Cottesmore - they have either a 22 or 30RB and a large archive of quarry drawings / manuals from the quarries, so a good chance of the right manual for you to look at! Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANGERS Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 The Museum of Lincolnshire Life is a good starting point and Cottesmore isn’t far away, they have an RB22 there (the last machine supplied new for mining ironstone in the UK I think it is). The MLL had a lot of RB material on display last time I was there, although it was a few years since. I can’t speak for the Langley kit’s accuracy but the 19 and 22 look decent enough. The larger RB110 is much more of a compromise though, a comparison with the model and the photos of them on the web suggest the proportions of it are more questionable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe MCMLXI Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Hi, you could ask here maybe.....?? https://www.threlkeldquarryandminingmuseum.co.uk/vintage-excavator-trust/ regards Joe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGH Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 This is the wrong scale if you are interested in the Langley kit, but it might be of interest as a "background model" on an O scale layout. An American firm, Engineering Model Developments, did quite a nice 1/50 scale diecast model of the 22RB face shovel. It was available in either Bucyrus Erie or Ruston Bucyrus versions, and may still be available - their website is - http://bucyruseriemodels.com/ 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osgood Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 This is the wrong scale if you are interested in the Langley kit, but it might be of interest as a "background model" on an O scale layout. An American firm, Engineering Model Developments, did quite a nice 1/50 scale diecast model of the 22RB face shovel. It was available in either Bucyrus Erie or Ruston Bucyrus versions, and may still be available - their website is - http://bucyruseriemodels.com/ Available direct from USA, but also from here - I've found their service consistently excellent: https://www.mclaren-models.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=847_853_870&sort=20a&page=3 If the version is not listed as RB (the American branded B-E is identical except for transfers) they might be able to source the RB version for you on request. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted April 14, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 14, 2018 Thanks. Too large for me, although it is a lovely model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rope runner Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 I can't help with any drawings, but if anyone has a GA for a 100RB face shovel that would be very useful. Paul A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osgood Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 (edited) A manual here - looks like a fairly early one so it is just possible that similar drawings to the 38RB drwgs above are present (my guess is later manuals won't have them): https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Ruston-Bucyrus-RB22-Excavator-sevice-manual/123055245234?hash=item1ca6aa07b2:g:rtIAAOSwQaFawlMU You could contact seller and ask if it contains the drawings you're after. Seems a bit on the expensive side, so maybe make an offer? Edited April 14, 2018 by Osgood 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted April 14, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 14, 2018 Yeah I saw the manual for sale and the price, too! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down_Under Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 I can't help with any drawings, but if anyone has a GA for a 100RB face shovel that would be very useful. Paul A. This is all I have Lincoln's Excavtors 1930-1945 If you've got the dimensions which the book doesn't have that would be good! Also has a good GA for a 55RB I think the harder to find and more $$$ Lincoln's excavtors post war might have some more of the more 'modern' GA diagrams J Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 I’ve got a feeling that Roy Link provided drawings for some RB machines in NGIRMR some years back. You might want to contact him if you have no luck elsewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANGERS Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 This might be a useful source - http://www.nynehead-books.co.uk/description.php?II=1948 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted April 15, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 15, 2018 Thanks. Potentially useful: have emailed to ask them for a bit more info on what’s inside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted April 15, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 15, 2018 I got this image from eBay: It probably has enough basic information for my needs but I went and brought the brochure anyway! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rue_d_etropal Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 (edited) I seem to remember there were drawings of one type of these, not sure which, in a special edition of the 16mm association magazine. Might have been in connction with the excellent working models , film of the model here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8Ayk0V4_68 Can't find my copy of the magazine unfortunately Not sure if this is useful. If not sure these chaps could sort something out http://www.rctruckandconstruction.com/showthread.php?t=3705 Edited April 16, 2018 by rue_d_etropal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamford Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 got 12"/ft 22 and 10 rb 's both rigged as cranes from mid 1970's and 1940's if you need some overall dims to scale from , unless you want to come and measure /photo yourself . located nr manchester , short train ride from picc stn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
locotracteur351 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 (edited) I have the full owners manual from a 22RB that my dad used to own, I will take photos and post them on here as soon as I can. Its a fascinating read, and although its a shame that the manual got lost when he sold/swapped it, at least it can now be of use to someone! One of my earliest memories is being sat on top of something grubby spraying brake cleaner into the air intake to get the beast going! Like a Minerva Peckett, it came with all sort of options depending on what you were in to. Face shovel, crane, dragline set up with all of these having a drawing in the manual. It was brilliant! So many hours I spent sat on dad's knee moving things about for fun. He only got rid because he never had time to really get the hang of driving it, it was all levers and pedals! Hope that I can be of help, tell me what you want drawings of and I will put them up for you. Jagger Edited July 4, 2018 by locotracteur351 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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