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#1 Rowsley17D

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 18:26


At Scale 4 North Wakefield I purchased this filing jig

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Does the central groove have a purpose? If it does, it's probably blindingly obvious but I haven't a clue.



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Posted 16 April 2018 - 18:31

Does it not allow you to clamp the two rails for soldering?
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Posted 16 April 2018 - 18:38

Confirmation as suggested above.  You file the angles and then use the central slot and the angled slot to solder up the vee.


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Posted 16 April 2018 - 18:51

Here's what it should look like before soldering.....

 

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 20:45

In case no-one else has discovered this, the filing jig complete with rails to be soldered may be placed on the steel plate of a resistance soldering workstation, the probe applied and the pedal depressed.  Job done.

 

Chris 


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Posted 17 April 2018 - 06:58

At Scale 4 North Wakefield I purchased this filing jig

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Does the central groove have a purpose? If it does, it's probably blindingly obvious but I haven't a clue.

 

 

The switch rail jig also saves a lot of time, but takes a bit more time to get used to it.


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Posted 17 April 2018 - 07:03

Who supplies these?

 

Thanks,

 

Jon



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Posted 17 April 2018 - 07:43

The EMGS and the Scalefour society. If you are not a member of either you will need to attend one of their shows, where you become a member for the day.



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Posted 17 April 2018 - 07:51

Who supplies these?
 
Thanks,
 
Jon


There're not cheap £30+ but when you have 30 odd turnouts to build they do come into their own. If anybody needs some 5-8s made up PM me.

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Posted 17 April 2018 - 08:13

....and for those that want shallower angles, there is a larger block that does 9,10,11 and 12.  The one shown does 5,6,7 and 8.

 

Of course there are other ways of creating the vee, but personally I find these jigs invaluable.  They are accurate and very simple to use.


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#11 Ian_H

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Posted 18 April 2018 - 17:04

Are the jigs just for BH rails or are they also used for FB rails?


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Posted 18 April 2018 - 17:36

I assume it does both BH and FB track, like BH file one rail the right way up and the other upside down.

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Posted 18 April 2018 - 17:54

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I always thought they were only for bullhead rail.  I can't see how you can file a 'left hand' and 'right hand' rail to make the vee with flat bottom rail as the rail will only fit one way.....


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Posted 18 April 2018 - 18:04

Brian Harrap has a very good way of making crossing vees without needing a jig, just a drawing on paper.  I've tried it, it works a treat.

 

http://www.rmweb.co....-2?hl= quai 87


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Posted 19 April 2018 - 07:36

I assume it does both BH and FB track, like BH file one rail the right way up and the other upside down.

Only bullhead. flatbottom is both code 75 & 82, but its the profile of the foot on both which causes the problem, plus I think both are a bit higher


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#16 Portchullin Tatty

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Posted 24 April 2018 - 22:13

One caution with regard to these jigs is that the steel is case hardened and therefore you will blunt your files.  I have a set of files that I use for filing my crossings and switches.


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#17 hayfield

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Posted 25 April 2018 - 07:42

Cheaper buying new files than jigs


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#18 Rowsley17D

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Posted 25 April 2018 - 14:59


My file came from B&Q budget range. Only needs a few strokes.

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Posted 12 August 2018 - 14:15

Sorry to reopen an old thread, but does anyone know if there are 'vee' jibs available for 7mm rail at all?

 

Rich



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Posted 12 August 2018 - 16:45

Sorry to reopen an old thread, but does anyone know if there are 'vee' jibs available for 7mm rail at all?

Rich

I believe there may be some available from the Scale 7 group
sure I heard they did some

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instead of S7 society

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Posted 12 August 2018 - 18:48

I believe there may be some available from the Scale 7 group
sure I heard they did some

Brian
Edited to say scale 7 group
instead of S7 society

 

 

Thanks Bri,

I'll have a mooch on their website and see what I can find.  The new layout is going to need 30 odd points (in a combination of points, single and double slips, so I feel its worth investing!

 

Rich



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Posted 13 August 2018 - 08:18

I have found that in 7mm scale the amount of metal to be removed is far greater than 4mm scale, I bought a bench disk sander from Lidl for £30 (they sell them 3 or 4 times a year

 

  https://www.google.c...EMuhECayXZ_L9M:

 

Its so easy to use and a simple jig can be made to cut to shape and a lot less work

 

They have a belt sander on offer from next Sunday which can be clamped to a bench, but for this work not as convenient to use


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Posted 13 August 2018 - 13:02

I have found that in 7mm scale the amount of metal to be removed is far greater than 4mm scale, I bought a bench disk sander from Lidl for £30 (they sell them 3 or 4 times a year

 

  https://www.google.c...EMuhECayXZ_L9M:

 

Its so easy to use and a simple jig can be made to cut to shape and a lot less work

 

They have a belt sander on offer from next Sunday which can be clamped to a bench, but for this work not as convenient to use

 

 

Thanks John

I'll PM you about this later!

 

Rich



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Posted 13 August 2018 - 13:35

Thanks John

I'll PM you about this later!

 

Rich

 

 

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No problems, happy to have a chat over a phone if it helps, built these for the club

 

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Takes a couple of goes just to get the hang of it, I have 4 mm filing jigs but the rail is so much smaller and easier to file, but 7 mm rail is 4 times the mass and with a bit of practice these disc sanders can do small adjustments, I also use it to rough out the back of switch rails. Like all tools with practice good results can be achieved.


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Posted 13 August 2018 - 16:47

The S7 Group does supply a range of filing jigs for the crossing fee, plus a comparable range of assembly jigs to produce common crossings and obtuse crossings (the interesting part of diamond crossings). Non-members of the S7 Group can obtain the jigs by talking to the S7 Stores Manager at any of the Gauge 0 Guild Shows, Warley and some of the ALSRM shows.
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