RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted April 16, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 16, 2018 At Scale 4 North Wakefield I purchased this filing jig Does the central groove have a purpose? If it does, it's probably blindingly obvious but I haven't a clue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Flying Pig Posted April 16, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 16, 2018 Does it not allow you to clamp the two rails for soldering? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordon s Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Confirmation as suggested above. You file the angles and then use the central slot and the angled slot to solder up the vee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordon s Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Here's what it should look like before soldering..... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisf Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 In case no-one else has discovered this, the filing jig complete with rails to be soldered may be placed on the steel plate of a resistance soldering workstation, the probe applied and the pedal depressed. Job done. Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 At Scale 4 North Wakefield I purchased this filing jig Vee Filing Jig.jpg Does the central groove have a purpose? If it does, it's probably blindingly obvious but I haven't a clue. The switch rail jig also saves a lot of time, but takes a bit more time to get used to it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Who supplies these? Thanks, Jon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Siberian Snooper Posted April 17, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 17, 2018 The EMGS and the Scalefour society. If you are not a member of either you will need to attend one of their shows, where you become a member for the day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted April 17, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 17, 2018 Who supplies these? Thanks, Jon There're not cheap £30+ but when you have 30 odd turnouts to build they do come into their own. If anybody needs some 5-8s made up PM me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordon s Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 ....and for those that want shallower angles, there is a larger block that does 9,10,11 and 12. The one shown does 5,6,7 and 8. Of course there are other ways of creating the vee, but personally I find these jigs invaluable. They are accurate and very simple to use. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_H Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 (edited) Are the jigs just for BH rails or are they also used for FB rails? Edited April 18, 2018 by Ian_H Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted April 18, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 18, 2018 I assume it does both BH and FB track, like BH file one rail the right way up and the other upside down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordon s Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Correct me if I'm wrong, but I always thought they were only for bullhead rail. I can't see how you can file a 'left hand' and 'right hand' rail to make the vee with flat bottom rail as the rail will only fit one way..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 2mmMark Posted April 18, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 18, 2018 Brian Harrap has a very good way of making crossing vees without needing a jig, just a drawing on paper. I've tried it, it works a treat. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37678-handbuilt-track/page-2?hl=+quai%20+87 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 I assume it does both BH and FB track, like BH file one rail the right way up and the other upside down. Only bullhead. flatbottom is both code 75 & 82, but its the profile of the foot on both which causes the problem, plus I think both are a bit higher Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portchullin Tatty Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 One caution with regard to these jigs is that the steel is case hardened and therefore you will blunt your files. I have a set of files that I use for filing my crossings and switches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Cheaper buying new files than jigs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted April 25, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 25, 2018 My file came from B&Q budget range. Only needs a few strokes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MarshLane Posted August 12, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 12, 2018 Sorry to reopen an old thread, but does anyone know if there are 'vee' jibs available for 7mm rail at all? Rich Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MarshLane Posted August 12, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 12, 2018 I believe there may be some available from the Scale 7 group sure I heard they did some Brian Edited to say scale 7 group instead of S7 society Thanks Bri, I'll have a mooch on their website and see what I can find. The new layout is going to need 30 odd points (in a combination of points, single and double slips, so I feel its worth investing! Rich Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 (edited) I have found that in 7mm scale the amount of metal to be removed is far greater than 4mm scale, I bought a bench disk sander from Lidl for £30 (they sell them 3 or 4 times a year https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=lidl+bench+sander&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=EMuhECayXZ_L9M%253A%252Cm5muNayghl0eUM%252C_&usg=AFrqEzdgS7inPj4-Jl-HyWVgxI7xd0X4kQ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjCzveDy-ncAhUMB8AKHXJiBJkQ9QEwC3oECAUQBg#imgrc=EMuhECayXZ_L9M: Its so easy to use and a simple jig can be made to cut to shape and a lot less work They have a belt sander on offer from next Sunday which can be clamped to a bench, but for this work not as convenient to use Edited August 13, 2018 by hayfield Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MarshLane Posted August 13, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 13, 2018 I have found that in 7mm scale the amount of metal to be removed is far greater than 4mm scale, I bought a bench disk sander from Lidl for £30 (they sell them 3 or 4 times a year https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=lidl+bench+sander&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=EMuhECayXZ_L9M%253A%252Cm5muNayghl0eUM%252C_&usg=AFrqEzdgS7inPj4-Jl-HyWVgxI7xd0X4kQ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjCzveDy-ncAhUMB8AKHXJiBJkQ9QEwC3oECAUQBg#imgrc=EMuhECayXZ_L9M: Its so easy to use and a simple jig can be made to cut to shape and a lot less work They have a belt sander on offer from next Sunday which can be clamped to a bench, but for this work not as convenient to use Thanks John I'll PM you about this later! Rich Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Thanks John I'll PM you about this later! Rich Rich No problems, happy to have a chat over a phone if it helps, built these for the club Takes a couple of goes just to get the hang of it, I have 4 mm filing jigs but the rail is so much smaller and easier to file, but 7 mm rail is 4 times the mass and with a bit of practice these disc sanders can do small adjustments, I also use it to rough out the back of switch rails. Like all tools with practice good results can be achieved. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Western Star Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 The S7 Group does supply a range of filing jigs for the crossing fee, plus a comparable range of assembly jigs to produce common crossings and obtuse crossings (the interesting part of diamond crossings). Non-members of the S7 Group can obtain the jigs by talking to the S7 Stores Manager at any of the Gauge 0 Guild Shows, Warley and some of the ALSRM shows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkAustin Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 The 2mm Scale Association publication "Track: How it works and how to model it." gives details of how to make custom V-jigs. You do need a jig to make the jig, but the estimate is for 1 hour total time. I'd copy the page, but I'm not sure about copyright issues in publishing it on an open web site. The book is well worth getting for workers in any scale, although, obviously, biased towards 2mm. Mark A Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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