Pete 75C Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 This isn't entirely railway-related, so apologies if it's in the wrong section... Does anyone have an approximate date that tobacco advertising in the form of roadside billboards and station advertising ceased? I well remember JPS, Rothmanns etc in the world of motorsport and "Marlboro man" on billboards, so it must have existed in the late 70s. I'm going to guess at some point during the 1980s but happy to be corrected. I have a "dead corner" to fill on a model and a couple of billboards would seem appropriate. It's easy enough to Google the adverts themselves, but I can't find anything related to the date they last appeared. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Jonboy Posted April 25, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 25, 2018 The van on tobacco adverting was from 2003. A quick search finds this http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-160614/Ban-smoking-advertising-launched.html that suggests in 2002 1.6 million uk people would have seen a billboard daily. This ties in with my own recollection of seeing them on family holidays but not since( my last family holiday was in 2001 ). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black and decker boy Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 2003 http://scienceblog.cancerresearchuk.org/2017/05/19/this-is-the-end-of-tobacco-advertising/ https://www.doctorfox.co.uk/news/the-history-of-cigarette-advertising-in-the-uk/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kylestrome Posted April 25, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 25, 2018 Does anyone have an approximate date that tobacco advertising in the form of roadside billboards and station advertising ceased? There is some detail here, though still a little vague: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco_advertising#United_Kingdom David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Oh, that's much later than I thought. Thanks to all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 I have a feeling that the allowable content was tightened-down some years before they were banned altogether. The 'classic' adverts, which indicated that you would become a world-travelling airline pilot, with semi-naked young women draped all over you, and a couple of giant sports cars on the drive, rather than a haggard-looking bloke with a grey complexion and a worryingly persistent cough, if you smoked, were banned a bit earlier, I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatB Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 I seem to remember a series of somewhat cryptic ads for Silk Cut on billboards in what must have been about 1990. Id take issue with some of the labelling on that graph. Although cigarette advertising may have gone from the TV in 1965 ads for cigars and pipe tobacco were around well into the 1980s at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisH-UK Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 I seem to remember a series of somewhat cryptic ads for Silk Cut on billboards in what must have been about 1990. Id take issue with some of the labelling on that graph. Although cigarette advertising may have gone from the TV in 1965 ads for cigars and pipe tobacco were around well into the 1980s at least. Yeah, otherwise I wouldn't remember the tagline "Happiness is a cigar called Hamlet" with accompanying music. This article jumps around a bit but still fills in a few gaps and suggest how the screw was tightened https://www.campaignlive.co.uk/article/tobaccos-finest-blend-ban-advertising-tobacco-force/169025 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Yeah, otherwise I wouldn't remember the tagline "Happiness is a cigar called Hamlet" with accompanying music. This article jumps around a bit but still fills in a few gaps and suggest how the screw was tightened https://www.campaignlive.co.uk/article/tobaccos-finest-blend-ban-advertising-tobacco-force/169025 As far as I can tell, the Hamlet ad lasted on TV until 1991. The source (Wikipedia, so it may or may not be correct) says the ad was revived in cinemas between 1996 and 1999. Those dates are at odds with the campaignlive link (above) which says tobacco advertising in cinemas ended in 1986. There certainly do appear to be many gaps and contradictions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
great central Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 There was the TV advert for the lone smoker long before they were banished to the outside of buildings. Backfired somewhat. Then there was the cigar ad, can't remember the brand but used some seriously prog music by Manfred Mann Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejstubbs Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 I seem to remember a series of somewhat cryptic ads for Silk Cut on billboards in what must have been about 1990. Don't forget the classic (and occasionally just weird) Benson & Hedges billboard and magazine ads: http://www.alastairmcintosh.com/images/bensons.htm - those started in 1977. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatB Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 I remember at least some of those. Mind you, I also remember a Not The Nine O Clock News spoof one as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejstubbs Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 (edited) There was the TV advert for the lone smoker long before they were banished to the outside of buildings. Backfired somewhat. You're never alone with Strand: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjBHUQEiTPw (Hmm...why isn't YouTube embedding working for me today? I blame the TSB...) The TV ad was directed by Carol Reed, best known for The Third Man and Oliver! Edited April 25, 2018 by ejstubbs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
E3109 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Reg on train spotting. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/10556-reg-on-trainspotting/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kylestrome Posted April 25, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 25, 2018 Being a non-smoker, I don't take too much notice of cigarette advertising but the poster that has remained in my memory was this one: https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnoram/6189881950 At the time it was highly original and IIRC preceded all the surreal Benson & Hedges and Silk Cut ads. I could have sworn that I saw it in the mid-seventies though, not 1984 as noted by the photographer. David 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Yeah, otherwise I wouldn't remember the tagline "Happiness is a cigar called Hamlet" with accompanying music. This article jumps around a bit but still fills in a few gaps and suggest how the screw was tightened https://www.campaignlive.co.uk/article/tobaccos-finest-blend-ban-advertising-tobacco-force/169025 "Be King of the road with Carlos Fandango super wide wheels!" For a while we used the term 'Carlos Fandango' to describe any pointless over the top car mod, e.g. a "Carlos Fandango" spoiler... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillCav Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 As billboard advertising for tobacco is now illegal, is displaying a scale tobacco billboard at an exhibition illegal too? Maybe it's only illegal for modern image but okay for a steam era layout! WJC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scouser Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Back in the dark ages, before they invented, anything really! There was an advert for smoking Craven A that went , sore throat? Smoke Craven A to ease the problem! Probably not word for word but that was the gist. Don't know if it worked...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 There used to be a large billboard on West Derby Road(?) in Liverpool with a real "smoking" cigarette advertisment. However the last time I saw it was in the late 70s/early 80s! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marly51 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 There are still some lovely vintage enamel signs for tobacco on old timber garage buildings in the Highlands! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chris p bacon Posted April 25, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 25, 2018 Who doesn't remember this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 As billboard advertising for tobacco is now illegal, is displaying a scale tobacco billboard at an exhibition illegal too? Maybe it's only illegal for modern image but okay for a steam era layout! WJC Never thought about the legality but I have had cigarette billboards on all of my exhibition layouts, I never had any negative comments over the years, in fact most were positive as they were a key part of the 1970s advertising scene: 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Yes, even my deliberately old-fashioned layout has such adverts, for a long-forgotten brand called BDV, which I think meant something like Blended Dark Virginia. In the 1920s/30s, BDV ran a coupon scheme, which allowed people to save up and swap their coupons for, among other things, Bassett Lowke and other model railway equipment, with BL designing and making a special loco, the Duke of York 4-4-0, to underpin the scheme. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Don't forget your Airfix Station Accessories box cover artwork. Something that was mainly made for children complete with gent smoking his cigarette. https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/airfixtributeforum/1958-station-accessories-1-76-t184.html Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Never thought about the legality but I have had cigarette billboards on all of my exhibition layouts, I never had any negative comments over the years, in fact most were positive as they were a key part of the 1970s advertising scene: post-7400-12567634372966_thumb.jpg post-7400-0-63920900-1454851732_thumb.jpg Cars and fags... exactly what I had in mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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