Popular Post Ruston Posted May 6, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 6, 2018 The new OO Barclays, from Hattons ought to get more people into industrial railways, so let's see your Barclays, whatever scale or type, RTR, kit or scratchbuilt. My Hattons Barclay; the 14-inch flavour. Cab rear windows knocked out and replaced with glue n glaze, nameplates added, various bits painted red and weathered. I also gave it a coat of yellow varnish to improve the green and give it more shine. 16-inch type. Mercian kit with altered cab and second set of buffers as per the locos at Springvale Furnaces. Old type 14-inch loco. 7mm scale Mercian kit. 16-inch type. 7mm scale Mercian kit. 27 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 My 7mm Barclay 0-6-0 Diesel. I think it's a Mercian kit, not entirely sure as I won it most unexpectedly on Ebay, already built. I put in a bid with a few minutes to go, fully expecting to be out-bid in the dying seconds, but no - I won the loco at a rather reasonable £80-ish. It was red already, but I painted it EWS Maroon, replaced the solid buffers with Slaters sprung buffers, and since taking this photo have done some weathering and added more details, like a toolbox & oil can on the footplate. 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Just to add a couple of up-to-date photos, & a Shameless Plug... Shameless plug: this loco & micr-O Layout will be at the Midlands Small Layout Showcase, Armitage village, Sat 9th June. (was the TVNAM event) 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted May 7, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 7, 2018 My Hattons Barclay has had dumb buffers fitted and taken on an unkempt look 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barclay Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 I built mine from the Kingdom Kit. I think it was just about the only industrial loco available at the time, but when I opened the box it was way too scary for my limited abilities with castings that were pretty ropey and axle holes that were too large for the bearings. It therefore stayed unbuilt for 10-15 years. By then I had the basic skills to replace all the dodgy parts, so it has a running plate/valance/buffer beam assembly in brass (original shown for comparison) and a brass boiler and cab roof too. It runs very well but there are still a couple of issues with its appearance. The first is my fault as I put the tank handrails too low. The second is that the buffer height is a little too low, even with the running plate chocked well up off the frames. The wheels are the recommended 3'3" but I can't help thinking it would look better with 3'6". 14 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ian@stenochs Posted May 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2018 Here my collection, All S7. 1885 14" Piano tank scratch built. 14" built from Mercian Models kit. 16" of 1906 scratch built. Jim Johnstone, the driver, likes this loco as it will pull just about anything you hang on the back. WPR 18 from the Agenoria kit but with a new scratchbuilt chassis and rods. Awaiting a bit of grime and some coal in the bunker. In the works at the moment is DICo No 17 0-6-0T on 1913. 21 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted May 8, 2018 Author Share Posted May 8, 2018 I like that "Piano tank"I Have never heard of that style of tank being called that before - do you know the origin of that term? I thought that style of tank was an ogee. Would you also happen to have drawings for that one as I'd like to make one in 4mm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhole Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 I like that "Piano tank"I Have never heard of that style of tank being called that before - do you know the origin of that term? I thought that style of tank was an ogee. Would you also happen to have drawings for that one as I'd like to make one in 4mm. Please give Ruston the drawings! To misquote something The Man posted to me, 'If You Get him The Drawings, He Will Build It!!!!!' I'm going to have to Get My Coat....... Again!!!! Chris. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted May 8, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 8, 2018 Two rather less familiar AB locos 0-6-2ST No.190, built for the Alexandra Docks railway and only slightly Swindonised after the grouping. Scratchbuilt in 4mm/00 gauge, posed here on herculaneum Dock but runs on Cwmafon. The second one might well be unique This is AB649 as rebuilt by LH, I built them an unpowered 7mm scale display model. It's all etched but we haven't got round to a kit for it yet, the full size loco works at INEOS Grangemouth. The model still has the original Barclay iron wheels but the loco had these changed for a wheelset and rods from a standard Hunslet 0-6-0DH. 16 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Adam Posted May 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 8, 2018 (edited) Not standard gauge (sorry!), but a Barclay, my first etched loco, from the Backwoods Miniatures kit (OO9) on my first and thus far only layout (both about 20 years ago): Adam Edited May 10, 2018 by Adam 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejstubbs Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 ...and there was me thinking that this was going to be one of those seriously misguided threads like this one on Twitter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke the train spotter Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 I haven't got a Barclay ..... Yet but these pictures are certainly inspirational! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhole Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 Two rather less familiar AB locos 190.JPG 0-6-2ST No.190, built for the Alexandra Docks railway and only slightly Swindonised after the grouping. Scratchbuilt in 4mm/00 gauge, posed here on herculaneum Dock but runs on Cwmafon. The second one might well be unique 06-45 br.JPG This is AB649 as rebuilt by LH, I built them an unpowered 7mm scale display model. It's all etched but we haven't got round to a kit for it yet, the full size loco works at INEOS Grangemouth. The model still has the original Barclay iron wheels but the loco had these changed for a wheelset and rods from a standard Hunslet 0-6-0DH. I wondered when your big 0-6-2 would appear!! If you kit the diesel, would it be just in 7mm or 4mm as well? Chris. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted May 9, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 9, 2018 If we do it might well start off in 7mm, I do have a spare etch to build sometime. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted May 9, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 9, 2018 Ok not industrial but BR. Both homemade plastic card bodies on scratchbuilt brass chassis. The small 0-4-0 153hp. And is big brother the 0-6-0 204 hp. 8 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian@stenochs Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 I like that "Piano tank"I Have never heard of that style of tank being called that before - do you know the origin of that term? I thought that style of tank was an ogee. Would you also happen to have drawings for that one as I'd like to make one in 4mm. Hi Ruston, Piano tank is quite a common description this side of the border, I don't know the origin but suspect it has something to do with curvy shape found on grand pianos! A rose by any other name! This is the second model I have built of this loco, the first was in P4 a long time ago, and both were built from a drawing in the G&SWRA collection. The loco was this. The works pug of the G&SWR. When built it went on contracting work on the building of the Fairlie-Largs line and on completion of the contract was sold to the G&SWR for £350. It worked for a time on dock shunting in Greenock and them became the Works shunter at Kilmarnock. She was treated to a full lining job and kept in first class condition, works pet I suppose. The photo shows her in 1922 beside one of the last G&SWR locos, the Baltic pugs. I built my version as an industrial but fully intend another but in full G&SWR lined livery one day. Ian. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhole Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 If we do it might well start off in 7mm, I do have a spare etch to build sometime. Thanks. C. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhole Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Here is my contribution. I have, like 'Barclay', a Kingdom Kits big Barclay. She is in CPC livery. Twenty five odd years ago she was the only game in town if I wanted a model of an engine very dear to me. No, my contribution is the much talked about Impetus fireless locomotive. She is a Barclay as far as I am concerned. She is the work of my dear friend Mike, who, built her for me as a Birthday present! DS10 motor and a single stage 60 to 1 Romford set of gears. Smooth!!! The gear wheel is almost as big as the drivers!!!!! She has been built well over twenty years and I love her to bits!!! C. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhole Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 I built mine from the Kingdom Kit. I think it was just about the only industrial loco available at the time, but when I opened the box it was way too scary for my limited abilities with castings that were pretty ropey and axle holes that were too large for the bearings. It therefore stayed unbuilt for 10-15 years. By then I had the basic skills to replace all the dodgy parts, so it has a running plate/valance/buffer beam assembly in brass (original shown for comparison) and a brass boiler and cab roof too. It runs very well but there are still a couple of issues with its appearance. The first is my fault as I put the tank handrails too low. The second is that the buffer height is a little too low, even with the running plate chocked well up off the frames. The wheels are the recommended 3'3" but I can't help thinking it would look better with 3'6". WP_20180507_13_32_56_Pro.jpg WP_20180507_13_36_56_Pro.jpg WP_20180507_13_44_09_Pro.jpg WP_20180507_13_40_46_Pro.jpg WP_20180507_14_40_38_Pro.jpg You, sir, are, like me, an industrial locomotive junkie!! I recognise the Gin pit Naismith, big Bagnall, Stephenson crane tank. The two saddle tanks in the background intrigue me. Would you care to enlighten me please? Chris. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barclay Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Guilty as charged! Just visible, on the left, a RSH 0-4-0st (High Level); DNT, the big Bagnall 0-4-0st (Impetus); under the water tower is an Austerity (Airfix and other bits); and to the right, an Avonside 0-6-0st (Agenoria). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhole Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Guilty as charged! Just visible, on the left, a RSH 0-4-0st (High Level); DNT, the big Bagnall 0-4-0st (Impetus); under the water tower is an Austerity (Airfix and other bits); and to the right, an Avonside 0-6-0st (Agenoria). Finally!!! Somebody else with a running Impetus Big Bagnall 0-4-0. I have a High Level RSH to do, I'm cleaning up a part built Center Models RSH kit as an historical exercise amonst all the other stuff I'm 'In the middle' of doing!! Great selection of models! I bet the fitter at your works has the odd nightmare dealing with the different builders! Chris. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barclay Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 It was my first etched loco kit, so I kept it simple, followed the instructions, and used a tiny 9/16 open frame motor vertically in the firebox, and instead of the suggested 40:1 Romford gears I used 60:1. All logic says it should be terrible but it runs perfectly well. At the risk of de-railing the thread, here's a picture. Yes the fitter would have a fit - especially when he sees the Neilson Box tank and the relics from Boulton's siding I'm planning for the future - however who wants to build the same thing over and over, even if would be more believable? I'd like to see your Kingdom Kits CPC Barclay. Did you use the recommended 3'3" wheels? In fact did any big Barclays use 3'3" wheels? Be interested to know. 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhole Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 It was my first etched loco kit, so I kept it simple, followed the instructions, and used a tiny 9/16 open frame motor vertically in the firebox, and instead of the suggested 40:1 Romford gears I used 60:1. All logic says it should be terrible but it runs perfectly well. At the risk of de-railing the thread, here's a picture. Bagnall.jpg Yes the fitter would have a fit - especially when he sees the Neilson Box tank and the relics from Boulton's siding I'm planning for the future - however who wants to build the same thing over and over, even if would be more believable? I'd like to see your Kingdom Kits CPC Barclay. Did you use the recommended 3'3" wheels? In fact did any big Barclays use 3'3" wheels? Be interested to know. My big barclay has the 3' 3'' wheels. She is wobbly in the chassis department. The shots do her no justice at all!! Mind you, she is an old lady now! I've stuck a shot of the Bagnall on as well. If anything, yours and Ruston's shots will encourage me to get my finger out and finally sort some proper scenics out!! I'm still not certain about the shade of blue on the Hattons CPC Barclay. I'm not going to repaint it mind!! Got enough to do!!! I don't know wether the wheels are correct I'm afraid. The other example of this kit I know of is Mike Edge's example on Cwmafon. I think that beast has the 3' 3'' wheels. C. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barclay Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 There's a picture in one of the industrial steam books where the colour is very like the Hattons loco, although as your picture shows it seems to have gotten much darker as it weathered. So that's at least 4 of us on this forum who've built that disreputable old kit. I hope yours won't face the torch now the new upstart is on the scene! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhole Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 There's a picture in one of the industrial steam books where the colour is very like the Hattons loco, although as your picture shows it seems to have gotten much darker as it weathered. So that's at least 4 of us on this forum who've built that disreputable old kit. I hope yours won't face the torch now the new upstart is on the scene! Definitely not! There is an opening at 'Manchester Steel' for a hard locomotive. Livery'll get changed mind! C. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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