Class 66 in OO Gauge - New Announcement

[Great Western]

I’d perfer a 66 to look like a 66 though, not some weird close but not quite box on wheels they’d produce.

[sc2016]

One thing I will ask Hattons, please PLEASE don’t have any ‘factory weathered’ options for any of these 66’s. 

I agree with this as i like my models pristine. 

 

except for 66705 GBRf Golden Jubilee (which goes for nonsense prices on auction sites).

 

Furthermore, would Hatton's upgrade any of the previous "special one offs" like Evening Star?.....Doubt it, unless they want to redesign the bell !! Of course could be completely wrong but would be interesting to hear opinions.

66705 Golden Jubilee was a Bachmann Limited Edition done for Kernow Model Rail Centre.

Evening Star could be done with the revised GBRF cab side Logos instead of the Europorte versions as on the Bachmann one.

 

We need a Barbie coloured version so they can do limited footballer locos.

I think one of the versions announced will be a barbie coloured version.

 

Give em a chance, they probably have to run at least 500 in the same livery.

Could be less due to dealing direct with a factory and having several produced that the same time. 

 

Strewth! This is 15,000 Class 66 models, a real hefty investment by Hattons. And if this lot sells they can make another different load.

Good luck to them.

Mal

That's if Hattons are producing 500 of each locomotive don't forget that these models are being done directly with a factory in China so production numbers could be potentially lower compared to going though another producer.

 

Preorder for 66789 placed. Hopefully one of the Royal Scotsman pair and Evening Star get announced in time too. Will definitely add them to my collection to haul my Royal Scotsman im building.

I would also buy a Royal Scotsman liveried Class 66. Also they could do Evening Star as it is now the GBRF cab logos have been revised.

[PaulRhB]

One thing I will ask Hattons, please PLEASE don’t have any ‘factory weathered’ options for any of these 66’s. Keep them all pristine and leave it down to the owner to fit any name plates and apply weathering if they so wish.

I agree with this as i like my models pristine.

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Well others like them weathered and don't have the confidence to do it themselves

 

I like a mix like the real railway so I like some of each and if it's done well I'll buy factory or specialist weathered ones, or do it myself.

 

Let's not try to dictate on personal taste and with 30 odd models I think they can accommodate everyone

[newbryford]

Well others like them weathered and don't have the confidence to do it themselves

 

I like a mix like the real railway so I like some of each and if it's done well I'll buy factory or specialist weathered ones, or do it myself.

 

Let's not try to dictate on personal taste and with 30 odd models I think they can accommodate everyone

 

Just as long as they don't do 66044........

 

Cheers,

Mick

['CHARD]

Hattons Model isn’t out yet.

 

Indeed, so now is a better time to flog those Bachmann sheds.  Get in before the on-line market floods with them.

[newbryford]

I wonder if certain models will be cherry picked by the ebay chancers?

 

Cheers,

Mick

[J. S. Bach]

 "The Flying Dustman"

 

 Thank you.   "The Flying Dustman"    I love it! I would almost want one of them; although it might look a bit strange among the SD-45s and SD-40T-2s on my Chesapeake Beach Railroad!

Edited May 14, 2018 by J. S. Bach

[34theletterbetweenB&D]

I did but i think I got away with it...

SRDG Biffa 66 P1330388.JPG

 That cannot possibly be anything to do with Biffa. No dents and completely un-bear's arse (rough as hell and covered in shit and twigs). I cherish a fond memory of a one time (and now sadly late) colleague who was a most effective facilities manager, arraigning the Biffa driver with the instruction to take that thing away and produce something that doesn't smell like it has been lying dead in the street for a week.

[Ouroborus]

no sign of Bachmann prices dropping yet on evilbay.

Don't hold your breath. As the Hawks gather on eBay to swipe a bargain, they'll drive up the price.

[WILLIAM]

Indeed, so now is a better time to flog those Bachmann sheds. Get in before the on-line market floods with them.

How fickle we all are (and well off by the sounds of it). It was only a few weeks ago that Bachmann's 66779 was selling out but now their version needs to be off loaded with great haste according to some? This didn't happen with Bachmann's 08 when Hornby released their superior version.

 

I'm trying to take a more pragmatic view. Yes I welcome Hattons announcement but that doesn't make me suddenly dislike Bachmann's offering. I've got a lot of the latter, many purchased for less than £75 new, and the more expensive ones tend to be special editions unlikely to be repeated by Hattons any time soon. I'll therefore be keeping mine but any new ones are likely to come from Liverpool.

Edited May 15, 2018 by WILLIAM

[classy52]

How fickle we all are (and well off by the sounds of it). It was only a few weeks ago that Bachmann's 66779 was selling out but now their version needs to be off loaded with great haste according to some? This didn't happen with Bachmann's 08 when Hornby released their superior version.

 

I'm trying to take a more pragmatic view. Yes I welcome Hattons announcement but that doesn't make me suddenly dislike Bachmann's offering. I've got a lot of the latter, many purchased for less than £75 new, and the more expensive ones tend to be special editions unlikely to be repeated by Hattons any time soon. I'll therefore be keeping mine but any new ones are likely to come from Liverpool.

 

Yes I don't get it either.

Just had a cursory look on eBay and could find 3 instances of 66718, 66720, 66721 & 66779 being sold which is a bit dumb considering these colourful liveried 66's & the BR Green 66779 are quite unique and nice and weren't cheap in the first place thus after fees/postage these people will losing a fair bit on their investments with absolutely no guarantee these 66's will be re-done by Hatton's which to me is highly unlikely within the next 3 years.

I will be keeping mine and with a few tweaks and with hopefully supplied new Class 66 hoses from Hatton's spares my Ltd Ed's will still look good alongside my Hatton's versions.

[letterspider]

Yes I don't get it either.

Just had a cursory look on eBay and could find 3 instances of 66718, 66720, 66721 & 66779 being sold which is a bit dumb considering these colourful liveried 66's & the BR Green 66779 are quite unique and nice and weren't cheap in the first place thus after fees/postage these people will losing a fair bit on their investments with absolutely no guarantee these 66's will be re-done by Hatton's which to me is highly unlikely within the next 3 years.

I will be keeping mine and with a few tweaks and with hopefully supplied new Class 66 hoses from Hatton's spares my Ltd Ed's will still look good alongside my Hatton's versions.

 

Sounds like it's a win - win situation to me!

[dogbox321]

Yes I don't get it either.

Just had a cursory look on eBay and could find 3 instances of 66718, 66720, 66721 & 66779 being sold which is a bit dumb considering these colourful liveried 66's & the BR Green 66779 are quite unique and nice and weren't cheap in the first place thus after fees/postage these people will losing a fair bit on their investments with absolutely no guarantee these 66's will be re-done by Hatton's which to me is highly unlikely within the next 3 years.

I will be keeping mine and with a few tweaks and with hopefully supplied new Class 66 hoses from Hatton's spares my Ltd Ed's will still look good alongside my Hatton's versions.

 

As I said earlier - with regards the Bachmann models already done (I've said I were surprised there were no "unique" livereried versions, but actually its Extremely Clever.  If you think about it logically there is already 500 or so of each version in the market place, and effectively Hattons need to either shift X many hundred more to new customers, or lots of people need to be prepare to upgrade (brings another issue).  My guess is that most people who wanted say the pair of LUL Class 66's has got them, therefore is there a market for a new one, with a production run of XXX?  Likewise, if people upgrade,  the next problem for  Hattons now is, as they do second hand they could get people trying to offload their models to them.  If only 10% of those who originally bought Bachmann's model sold them to them as part exchange - thats 50, plus perhaps another couple of hundred being shifted on e-bay/facebook over a year or two.  Do Hattons really want to sell a brand new Class 66 in a livery thats already been done, knowing full well they are going to get lumbered with a load of old ones, which will probably drop in value and sit for a good few years, unless people want them for renumbers/repaints, which again is going to affect their sales of new models.  Like I say I think its very clever if they don't repeat unique liveries, its also a stroke of Genius to do "British Rail", as Bachmann "probably" would have sold that one now, but now Hattons have declared their intentions its unlikely that anyone will order a Bachmann one at £20 more than a Hattons one....  Really Surprised they have not announced the Royal Scotsman's at the same time, but perhaps they are also afraid of diluting the market, and know they will be able to go back to these whenever.  

 

Regards,

 

C.

[classy52]

If it's any help, 66079 has also been produced before.. Hornby R3487.

 

Yes indeed and one of the EWS 66's I have ordered but we won't count Hornby in this discussion as it is such an old and poor model...best forgotten 

[cambo74]

Darn - ordered a Large Logo one .....

[dogbox321]

Yes indeed and one of the EWS 66's I have ordered but we won't count Hornby in this discussion as it is such an old and poor model...best forgotten 

Yes, and sure 66731 in GBRF has been done too, plus 66418 in a different livery Freightliner Ex DRS.

 

Regards,

 

C.

[classy52]

Yes, and sure 66731 in GBRF has been done too, plus 66418 in a different livery Freightliner Ex DRS.

 

Regards,

 

C.

 

Yes these two I have also pre-ordered (66418 & 66705) as I didn't own the previous ones.

Kernow have done 66418 in the interim livery from DRS to Freightliner and it's now in Freightliner Powerhaul livery named 'Patriot', Bachmann did the Ltd. Ed 66731 'Golden Jubilee' previously a while back using the original 66 tooling so fairly out of date.

 

Edit: Newbryford is correct thus apologies, got cross eyed on Hatton's list thus quoted the wrong number, plus they have the graphic of 66705 for 66731 which obviously threw me lol.

Edited May 15, 2018 by classy52

[newbryford]

Yes these two I have also pre-ordered as I didn't own the previous ones.

Kernow have done 66418 in the interim livery from DRS to Freightliner and it's now in Freightliner Powerhaul livery named 'Patriot', Bachmann did the Ltd. Ed 66731 'Golden Jubilee' previously a while back using the original 66 tooling so fairly out of date.

 

Bachmann did 66731 as "Interhub"

http://www.hattons.co.uk/52604/Bachmann_Branchline_32_980_Class_66_9_66731_InterhubGB_in_GBRf_Europorte_livery/StockDetail.aspx

 

Cheers,

Mick

[James Makin]

I might get a Hattons 66789 to run alongside my Lima 66250

[brushman47544]

That's if Hattons are producing 500 of each locomotive don't forget that these models are being done directly with a factory in China so production numbers could be potentially lower compared to going though another producer.

 

Since Hatton's are dealing with the factory directly, it wouldn't surprise me if they've agreed an overall number of locos, but can adjust the numbers of each one depending on the pre-orders. So the more popular ones will see more produced.

[J. S. Bach]

Something that I have not seen addressed yet. For those with the Bachmann motors, how well will they play with the Hatton's version? I am referring to mu'ing them in cuts of two or more. I suspect that we will have to wait for the production models to arrive to find that out. Note that I am speaking about straight DC operation here. I have several of the Bachmann variety and was quite happy with their performance on a friend's layout.

Edited May 15, 2018 by J. S. Bach

[Covkid]

How often do you run multiple class 66s in the same consist ?

[PaulRhB]

Happens quite a bit either side of weekend engineering work with positioning locos for trains. Anyhoo if you run dcc you can speed match then using the decoder and once one is done it should only require minor tweaks to allow for motor variations.

[big jim]

How often do you run multiple class 66s in the same consist ?

A couple of examples could involve another new hattons products, the RHTT wagons and beilhack snow ploughs!

[martin_l_jones]

I have far too many and won't be parting with any of them. They might not be perfect but they run really well and look the part in my eyes. Personally I think the older liveries like the original EWS will be slow sellers, but I'm sure the batch quantities will be reduced so less to move.