sb67 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 I've built an old Slaters Midland 3 plank wagon kit ( the one on the right ) And I was wondering how to finish it, I was wondering if many lasted and how they looked in the BR era, maybe as part of the departmental fleet. The info with the instructions was a bit vague. Can anybody help Steve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Steve, I finished mine in unpainted wood. It's 7mm but the idea is the same: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/118930-weathering-7mm-wagons/page-2 Post #31 John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 57xx Posted May 16, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 16, 2018 According to the legend that is Mr Essery, examples of these survived into the 1960's. As John say, bare wood appears to be the order of the day livery-wise.The 1953 example in the Essery Midland Wagons book shows the lettering applied directly onto the wood, not even on a black panel. "8T M17540" on the left lower plank, "4-15" for the tare on the right lower plank. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb67 Posted May 17, 2018 Author Share Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) Steve, I finished mine in unpainted wood. It's 7mm but the idea is the same: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/118930-weathering-7mm-wagons/page-2 Post #31 John According to the legend that is Mr Essery, examples of these survived into the 1960's. As John say, bare wood appears to be the order of the day livery-wise.The 1953 example in the Essery Midland Wagons book shows the lettering applied directly onto the wood, not even on a black panel. "8T M17540" on the left lower plank, "4-15" for the tare on the right lower plank. Thanks Guys, unpainted wood it is then. There's a good article in a recent Model Rail Journal on unpainted wagons, be good to give those techniques a try.Brossard, indeed I think it's the same wagon in 7mm. I've had a look at your thread and there's some nice weathering there, that's given me some idea ,thanks for posting. I think some wagons went into Departmental use, does anyone know what markings they might have had? I'm guessing a ''D'' in front of the number and an ''E'' on the side somewhere. Steve. Edited May 17, 2018 by sb67 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Regarding wagons in Departmental service, Paul Bartletts collection might yield some clues. ( http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/paulbartlettsrailwaywagons ) You may not find this particular wagon (Pauls pics seem to have been taken in the '80s) but I'm sure there are similar examples. The wagons I've seen appear to be quite rough and ready. The number would likely have DMxxxxx. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) Regarding wagons in Departmental service, Paul Bartletts collection might yield some clues. ( http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/paulbartlettsrailwaywagons ) You may not find this particular wagon (Pauls pics seem to have been taken in the '80s) but I'm sure there are similar examples. The wagons I've seen appear to be quite rough and ready. The number would likely have DMxxxxx. John The earliest of Paul's photos date to the late 1960s, I believe. He has one or two shots of similar vehicles:- http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/lms3plankopen though they had gone into Internal Use by the time he photographed them. I found earlier views of similar, if not identical, wagons in the first of the series of albums of wagon photos, collated by Geof Gamble and published by Cheona Publications. The youngest shot was taken in the early 1950s. Out of interest, I thought I'd have a look to see if any of the Cheona series are available. The answer is 'yes'; but at a price- the first volume, on 'Opens, Minerals and Hoppers' is currently available on Amazon for £59.40! Edited May 17, 2018 by Fat Controller Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 I have managed to collect a lot of useful books over the years. I am saddened that so many of these very useful works are no longer in print and difficult/expensive to get. It is rare for books to be reprinted and I don't see them being replaced. Keep your eyes peeled for estate sales and similar for bargains on these older books. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 57xx Posted May 17, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 17, 2018 Midland Wagons has an example being used as a crane runner with number DM17634, but no E on they side. This appears to have been dropped compared with earlier Midland "E D" and LMS "E" liveries. This one also appears to be painted black. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb67 Posted May 17, 2018 Author Share Posted May 17, 2018 Thanks for your help guys. The Paul Bartlett pics are great, I did look on there a few days ago but didn't see any, thanks for the link. They do look like internal user wagons. I think I'll number one side Mxxxxxx and the other DMxxxxxx. Steve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb67 Posted May 21, 2018 Author Share Posted May 21, 2018 Finished the wagon, I used the transfers that came with the kit which looks a bit big but I guess it's a midland a railway font but I don't think it looks too bad. I know there was a lot of anomalies with wagons so perhaps I might get away with it on my layout. Needs weathering now. Steve. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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