RMweb Premium Finsbury Posted May 25, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 25, 2018 (edited) Here is my problem. I really want some 37 action, but I don't have one yet. I do have an LMS twin by Bachmann. It is not a 37. I'm thinking the unimaginable of chipping the LMS with 37 goodness until I finally acquire said 37. Shall I go and boil my head in a vat of acid, now? Yours in a pit of despair, Bernie Edited May 25, 2018 by Finsbury Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted May 25, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 25, 2018 Plenty of early sound decoders, steam and diesel, were generic, so you got what you got. And genuine sounds for many long-deceased classes simply do not exist. It’s EE, it rises and falls with speed, presumably, and it’ll do until you choose to change it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted May 25, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 25, 2018 It's only a diesel, they all sound the same ..... Hat, coat . Class 50 is better for an LMS Twin so I'me told Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 (edited) The 37 sounds wouldn't be too far off the 'twins' ' sounds. They were English Electric, albeit with 16 cylinders rather than the 37's 12. The early Queensland Railways 1200 class had the 12 cylinder engines and dated from around 1953, so would have had similar sounds too - I know their control systems were fairly crude, with the engine revving up rapidly, generally overspeeding slightly before settling down a bit, then issuing another rush of sound, very much like Legomanbiffo's Scottish class 37 sounds. I would imagine that the LMS twins and the Bulleid locos would have sounded rather similar to that.I fitted Legomanbiffo's sounds into my Bulleid 10201, but didn't really like the sound file as supplied - it sounded to me like the internal engine room sounds with no exhaust roar (no criticism of 'bif intended - he was following the description given by an engineer who worked with the real things). I asked 'bif to reblow the sound decoder with class 40 engine sounds, but retaining the Southern compressor and whistle sounds, etc., which he very kindly did for me. I know the turbo whistle probably wouldn't have been as prominent on the Bulleids, bt overall, I much prefer the "incorrect" sounds, which better represent the English Electric external engine sounds, to my mind.I suppose that what I am saying in a very long-winded way is that whatever sounds are most pleasing to you, the purchaser, are the best sounds to have in your locos: it is your layout and your locomotive so it has to please you and no one else. Edited May 26, 2018 by SRman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 It's only a diesel, they all sound the same ..... Hat, coat . Can you read lips, RedgateModels? p.s. you may well be right about the class 50 sounds, as they, too, used the 16 cylinder EE Co engines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted May 25, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 25, 2018 p.s. you may well be right about the class 50 sounds, as they, too, used the 16 cylinder EE Co engines. That's what's in mine, with one horn out of the two tones deleted and the F control used for cab lighting control - directional and switchable, also auto off when the loco moves 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil S Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 To quote Shakespeare:'As you like it'. Unless you are in the company of a former driver or maintenance engineer familiar with the original (and a good memory) all you can really do is try to match the generic control features - startup and idle and any specific horn feature ... Does an Argo sound recording exist of an original - that would probably be your best chance of a comparison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Finsbury Posted May 25, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 25, 2018 Thank you SRman, I have changed my mind, class 40 it will be. 16svt, bit of thrash, love it! TBH, I had not even considered the 40 as I always thought the model looked odd. That'll learn me not to be dismissive. Cheers, buddy! Bern Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAF96 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Never was religious ... I have a TTS Class 67 diesel in an electric Class 90. I also have a dodgy sound decoder with horse noises on function buttons, which clip-clops faster when you open the throttle...oddly its the same in reverse... not sure what I can put that in, maybe a DCC brewery dray or tram. I hear folk turning in their graves... Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 (edited) Never was religious ... I have a TTS Class 67 diesel in an electric Class 90. I also have a dodgy sound decoder with horse noises on function buttons, which clip-clops faster when you open the throttle...oddly its the same in reverse... not sure what I can put that in, maybe a DCC brewery dray or tram. I hear folk turning in their graves... Rob Put it in a horse-drawn tram, or, with turning in graves in mind, a horse-drawn hearse? Edited May 26, 2018 by SRman 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 As an aside, I bought a Hornby Merchant Navy with TTS sound, and decided it really didn't sound much like a 3-cylinder beat, nor did it have the rather soft chuffing of a Bulleid in original form, leaving me unconvinced as to its realism, so I swapped the decoder and speaker into a Standard class 4MT. I think it sounds far more appropriate in there, although I do need to drill some holes in the tender to allow more of the sound out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JST Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 I fitted a class 47 Diesel sound decoder in my GWR Castle Class... didn't really sound right! That's what happens when you put decoders in the wrong box! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAF96 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 I have Tornado TTS in my GWR pannier tank and the chuff match is spot on. Rob 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Right Away Posted May 29, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 29, 2018 (edited) As an aside, I bought a Hornby Merchant Navy with TTS sound, and decided it really didn't sound much like a 3-cylinder beat, nor did it have the rather soft chuffing of a Bulleid in original form, leaving me unconvinced as to its realism, so I swapped the decoder and speaker into a Standard class 4MT. I think it sounds far more appropriate in there, although I do need to drill some holes in the tender to allow more of the sound out.The decoder's produced sound must be VERY unrealistic if it is deemed to be more suited to a Standard 4.Both single and double chimney versions were somewhat vociferous beasts when pulling hard. The sound of the Lemaître fitted SR Pacifics was/is so distinctive that an accurate reproduction could not with realism be utilised on alternative classes. Long live the Peter Handford recordings in lieu of our receeding memories. Edited May 29, 2018 by Right Away Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisr40 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 In the words of sheryl crow....if it makes you happy then it can't be that bad. I say if it sounds good to you then that's all that matters. Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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