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#26 martin_wynne

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Posted 01 June 2018 - 11:02

It would be interesting to get involved, but alas I wrote my last Pascal program in 1988 (although with a brief excursion into Ada, which has a similar syntax, in the mid-90s). Since then it's been mostly C and then C++. I might be a bit rusty now! 

 

Hopefully, Martin, your 'use by' date is still many years away! 

 

However, this thread has put one question in my mind. The current Templot always appears to insist on phoning home to find out if there's a latest version, and won't run until it's done so (at least when I last used it, which was about a month ago) - if something untoward were to happen to you (heaven forbid!) have you put into place any provision for "home's" continuation so the full Templot doesn't expire with you? 

 

Hi,

 

The UK server connection is currently secure until 2022. This doesn't require any further payments. The alternative USA server connection is secure until 2026, but would require someone to keep paying the hosting bills. If I'm still standing when they come up for renewal I will extend both by another 10 years (the Templot donations fund permitting).

 

(Templot2 tries both servers if one is down.)

 

The OpenTemplot version won't require a server connection, unless the contributors to the project (if any) decide otherwise. On the other hand I won't be supporting it much myself.

 

I shall continue to refuse to answer any support questions from someone not using the latest version of either. If at some stage I decide not to do any more support, I shall remove the "phone home" requirement from Templot2.

 

Pascal is easy to learn, and OpenTemplot will be compiled using Lazarus which is free. I'm hoping that hobby programmers will get involved -- the professionals are too argumentative. smile.gif

 

There is a topic here about starting in Lazarus, which I intend to expand on once OpenTemplot is released:

 

 http://85a.co.uk/for...2956&forum_id=5

 

cheers,

 

Martin.





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Posted 01 June 2018 - 11:30

... the professionals are too argumentative. smile.gif

 

 

I am sure the only arguments I have are the ones in parameter lists  ;)



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Posted 02 June 2018 - 09:40

Very generous of you to open up your magnum opus - it really is a magnificent contribution to the hobby.

 

I used it to design and help build the pointwork for a Cyril Freezer design I was going to make (I did make all the pointwork but got no further). It didn't take too long to get the hang of it and I can't imagine any other software could have been better. Templot's flexibility allowed Cyril's design to be done pretty much as he drew it which I doubt set-track type software could have got close to.

 

Which makes me wonder how CF plans looked when translated into Peco trackwork.

 

Next I'm thinking of seeing what it makes of 5" gauge points using 10x25mm bar rails!


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#29 Sheffield

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Posted 02 June 2018 - 14:00

I would like to add my thanks to Martin for Templot. I have found it very useful, and also very enjoyable. Thanks.


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#30 Crosland

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Posted 02 June 2018 - 18:27

 I have looked several times in the last few days and not seen anything wrong.

 

<SIgh> "I see no ships"

 

A little googling will reveal a few snippets such as a quote from Sourceforge "We recognize there have always been issues with SourceForge and Slashdot, both with our current provider and within the infrastructure,https://www.theregis...ut_sourceforge/



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Posted 02 June 2018 - 18:52

<SIgh> "I see no ships"

 

A little googling will reveal a few snippets such as a quote from Sourceforge "We recognize there have always been issues with SourceForge and Slashdot, both with our current provider and within the infrastructure,https://www.theregis...ut_sourceforge/

 

Thanks for the link. I note that was 8 months ago. There have been intermittent problems since, and it was down for planned maintenance last night. However, it is now up and running fine. So far I have done no more than create an account on there. At present I'm happy to let matters lie.

 

Martin.



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Posted 02 June 2018 - 18:59

On the other hand http://www.theregist...crosoft_github/ :)



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Posted 04 June 2018 - 16:34

 

Confirmed now - apparently for $7.5 billion.



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Posted 04 June 2018 - 17:04

Confirmed now - apparently for $7.5 billion.

 

How much more might it have been if I had put Templot there? smile.gif


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Posted 04 June 2018 - 18:17

And according to El Reg:
 

The Register has been conducting a survey on the acquisition – at the time unconfirmed – and the results are, unsurprisingly, currently leaning towards the negative four to one.


and...
 

Meanwhile, GitLab, yet another source management platform, first congratulated competitor GitHub on the purchase before gleefully pointing out that it was seeing 10 times the normal rate of repositories being imported.

 
http://www.theregist...ft_buys_github/


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Posted 07 June 2018 - 13:49

Like any of these things there is always lots of talk and angst, and it is extremely easy to click on an online survey.  But at the end of the day while some will follow through the vast majority just continue on without change.

 

What it does do is give GitHub a more solid future given that they were apparently not yet breaking even let alone making a profit, something that anyone considering moving might want to consider about where they jump.  Offering free hosting make it difficult to pay the bills if not enough people/companies are willing to take up the paid options.


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#37 martin_wynne

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Posted 09 June 2018 - 11:09

Thanks for the advice and kind words.

The first trial version of OpenTemplot and the open source program files is now available:

 http://85a.co.uk/for...282&forum_id=25


That's on the Templot web site for now. The source is also on Sourceforge:

 https://sourceforge....ts/opentemplot/

 

The file ot_source_1.zip contains the source files. © Martin Wynne 2018, released under GNU/GPLv3: https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html

They can be opened, compiled and run as a project in Lazarus: https://www.lazarus-ide.org/

 

I will be posting instructions shortly on the Templot Club forum for using the files in Lazarus. There is already a topic on there for anyone wanting to try coding for the first time: http://85a.co.uk/for...rum_id=5#p21508

cheers,

Martin.