Grimleygrid Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Following suggestions, feedback received and research conducted, we are looking at a TEA bogie tank wagon and BBA long steel carrier. Photo Courtesy Trevor Plackett Photo Courtesy AP More details will be provided in due course. 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ews60002 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 mmmmmmm........... BBA steel wagon for me please..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 The BBA has been long overdue and the drawing published in BR Wagons volume one and since then has became a much converted wagon with several variations of floor fitted plus Marcroft at Stoke fitting three piece hoods on some! Plenty to go at in the future! Mark Saunders 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
owentherail Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Yes, BBAs at last, they used to be it Dapol coming up list, was a mistake to cancel them I think, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazjones1711 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 (edited) Think the BBA would be a wise choice , various liveries , plus many conversions , of those i can think of are : BWA with five ex BZA cradles (there were 13 of these conversions) BIA five ex BOA cradles (there were 12 of these conversions) BBA five wooden cradles (there were 7 of these ) BLA BSA that worked from Sheffield to Immingham with stainless slab and back with coil (there were 31 of these conversions) BBA with 6 cradles again Sheffield to Grimsby / various East coast ports / BSC Lackenby / BSC Port Talbot with stainless slab and back with coil (there were 33 of these conversions) BIA / BWA / BXA covered conversions with sliding hoods BBA with / without ends and various floors / bolsters fitted there are probably more , so feel free to add Edited May 31, 2018 by bazjones1711 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazjones1711 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Pool 4107 BSC Lackenby - Hartlepool coil910007,010,015,031,032,034,038,040,058,067,068,077,089,105,109,169,391,436,460,540.Total 20 These worked with eye to sky coil to the pipe mill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRDBLUE17 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Hi Alex, The BBA is a perfect choice for me on a Workington run! Cheers Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BR Blue Posted May 31, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 31, 2018 I would order some BBAs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YesTor Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Ahhh, I was hoping for perhaps one of the various Bardon Aggregates hoppers that many suggested. Still, I guess it will save me a little cash this time around. Maybe next time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrallwelder Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 A little disappointed that the various niche & unlikely to be produced aggregate wagons have not been selected. However the BBA’s & TEA would be unit shifters I Would buy 10-12 BBA’s though !!! TW Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig1989 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 I think it would be a big risk to do the teas as rapido are doing them but I would be happy with some bbas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdvle Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 I think it would be a big risk to do the teas as rapido are doing them but I would be happy with some bbas While Rapido is making them - they are in production at the moment according to the last Rapido UK newsletter- the TEAs are a Revolution Trains product. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Well, I didn’t think that it was a good idea for Revolution to produce TEAs because Bachmann already produced them. Nevertheless, they seem to have been successful in that they wouldn’t have begun work on them if people hadn’t committed themselves to buying enough of them. In addition, Revolution’s offering is high-spec. BBAs, I think. Put a cherry on top by providing loads for them and take a leaf out of Accurascale’s book by offering trains of them all differently numbered. With the next model, may I have more time to save up please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Steven B Posted June 1, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 1, 2018 Revolution's TEA are the current wagons, not the 1960/70s built ones that Bachmann/Farish do. Steven B Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Revolution's TEA are the current wagons, not the 1960/70s built ones that Bachmann/Farish do. Steven B Yes, and better detailed too. (Probably – I haven’t seen one yet.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesysmith Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Iirc the Bachmann TEA is a delagged one so the barrel is too small for most prototypes. Also, there are many variants of TEAs. Different bogies, hatches, walkways, class A or lagged class B, even some earlier ones with different lengths. BBAs. You need to design the tooling that allows for the later modification that have occurred with these wagons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted June 1, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 1, 2018 Hello all, The TEA offered by Bachmann represents the 1960s+ versions produced by Charles Roberts and others that lasted in service until relatively recently. The TEA being produced by Rapido for Revolution Trains (which is the same as the N one produced in 2016) represents the type built for EWS and VTG since 2006. The one proposed by Cavalex appears to be the Procor-built type dating from the 1980s. If the TOPS codes are causing confusion (and I can see why) then I wonder whether it's worth considering the TDA? I think that the liveries are more varied and they have distinctive angled end platforms that might make them stand out a bit. Personally, I feel the BBA is a better bet as there are more variations and there does not seem to be a surfeit of steel carriers but I know very little about the 4mm market. Cheers Ben A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trains4U Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 The TEA shown is of a design not yet made and is very different from the models produced by Bachmann or Revolution I believe the closest relative would be the ancient Tri-ang/Hornby TEA (Which should have been retired in the 1990s) The BBA is a good call - Steel wagons are always a popular choice Now, How many can I sell? (I'll be in touch soon about these Alex) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 I think it would be a big risk to do the teas as rapido are doing them but I would be happy with some bbas TEA is a catch all code with many different builders producing many totally different wagons! Mark Saunders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Hi these are just the first two wagons in the shortlist for the next project. The TEA presented here is different to both the Revolution and Bachmanm offerings and would happily run with either wagon to make a more varied set. This TEA ran from the 80s right through to present day so has a great range of operating years and longevity. No one is offering this design at present and would of course be to a high standard as per the Revolution version and our recent PGA. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimleygrid Posted June 1, 2018 Author Share Posted June 1, 2018 Just to clarify the TEA design that we are considering, TE009D and TE009F. Built by Standard Railway Wagon Company in 1987 for Total.Built in two batches; TOTL 85930-85944 and 85960-85974102 Tonne GLW Class A bogie tank wagonGloucester GPS25 bogies Paul Bartlett has some excellent photos of them on his site here: TE009Dhttp://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/totalclassatea/e71b09de TE009Fhttp://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/totalclassatea/e1a6a1cb1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimleygrid Posted June 1, 2018 Author Share Posted June 1, 2018 There are some of the TEAs in this cracking video clip of a pair of 31s at Barnetby in 1991: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike at C&M Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Are the BBAs suitable for the electrically hauled steel coil trains from Ravenscraig to Llanwern in the late '70s/early '80s? If so, might need a couple of the upcoming Hornby 87s to stick on the front! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37501 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 I always knew that if I built enough Cambrian BBAs, a RTR one would appear.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogbox321 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Ahhh, I was hoping for perhaps one of the various Bardon Aggregates hoppers that many suggested. Still, I guess it will save me a little cash this time around. Maybe next time. Yes, but I think the JGA Bardons I suggested have the same bogies, so provides a little hope for the future.... Regards, C. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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