Pint of Adnams Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Well the RM and Continental Modeller have been linked on the website for some time, not that it's much use au moment. As a just teenager in the early 1960s I was fully aware that RM was a Peco publication so I just don't get Martin's point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 I first started getting RM in the early 1970s, and after a while realised that whenever PECO was mentioned in an article the word always appeared in a different typeface, (as did Railway Modeller), so I was aware of it back then. RM has always been my favourite mag, and although I stopped buying magazines regularly back in the 1990s RM is still the one I am most likely to get now, cheers They also went through that rather irritating and silly phase of adding in brackets (copyright symbol) after every mention of a manufacturer. Stewart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold martin_wynne Posted June 14, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 14, 2018 As a just teenager in the early 1960s I was fully aware that RM was a Peco publication so I just don't get Martin's point. I'm not making a point. I'm reporting that for the first time in memory, RM has Peco branding on the cover. And pointing out that companies don't do things just on a whim -- there is usually a reason. I'm fully aware that everyone knows and always has known that RM is produced by the Peco group of companies. Although they do indeed have different legal entities, they all have the same top management. The RM staff listing says: Chairman: C. M. Pritchard. Next time I notice something interesting I will keep it to myself. Martin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacific231G Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Is there a poll for the most uninteresting thread on the planet? May I nominate this one to be included..... It's alright jonny, it's not Vogon poetry; nobody will strap you to a chair and make you read every post. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
P58586 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Are back issues available to read anywhere on t'internet? I've no wish to copy them at a time when I'm trying to get rid of stuff, but would like to follow up references made elsewhere. Incidentally, does anybody know the whereabouts of Keith Allen who wrote prolifically in the early Eighties RM about conversions to 4mm BR mineral wagons? He was a Stockport lad then, and had a joint enterprise chum called Dave (Lee?). They were not club types, but ploughed lone furrows. Peter Prydderch, Stockport Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderforge Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 I wonder if it was a case of someone in the design office forgetting to change the colour each month and now they’ve realised “It was a test, yes, to see if... er, we would sell more!” 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted July 12, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 12, 2018 Just to give this can of worms an extra gentle stir there was, in earlier times still, a four colour rotation of the cover title, including orange. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PMP Posted July 12, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 12, 2018 ^^ Perhaps Stelios missed a trick, ‘easy Railway Modeller’ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Phil Parker Posted July 12, 2018 Administrators Share Posted July 12, 2018 Are back issues available to read anywhere on t'internet? I've no wish to copy them at a time when I'm trying to get rid of stuff, but would like to follow up references made elsewhere. Incidentally, does anybody know the whereabouts of Keith Allen who wrote prolifically in the early Eighties RM about conversions to 4mm BR mineral wagons? He was a Stockport lad then, and had a joint enterprise chum called Dave (Lee?). They were not club types, but ploughed lone furrows. Peter Prydderch, Stockport You mean "read for free"? I doubt it, but you can buy a digital subscription which gives you access to back issues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 (edited) I'm not making a point. I'm reporting that for the first time in memory, RM has Peco branding on the cover. And pointing out that companies don't do things just on a whim -- there is usually a reason. Not quite sure the "first time in memory" statement is correct. I'm pretty sure the 3 P's (a registered trademark?) logo used to be placed below the magazine title? Maybe next time somebody bumps into Steve Flint they could ask him what's the reasoning behind such a "radical" move? P Edit: Thought so. Edited July 12, 2018 by Porcy Mane 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted July 12, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 12, 2018 (edited) I recently bought a copy of RM from May 1975 (month and year I was born) Originally priced at 30p Edited July 12, 2018 by chuffinghell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 You have found the best inflation index in being: the cover price of RM. If you think prices rocket now, bear in mind that RM cost 3/6 or 17.5p at decimalisation in 1971. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 30p in 1975 is about £2.39 in 2017 (latest year that the converter works). https://www.officialdata.org/1975-GBP-in-2017?amount=0.30 17p in 1971 is £2.28 in 2017. It won't accept half pennies so add on about £0.06 to make it £2.34. https://www.officialdata.org/1971-GBP-in-2017?amount=0.17 Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 I never noticed the different cover colours and I have never worn an anorak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Phil Parker Posted July 12, 2018 Administrators Share Posted July 12, 2018 30p in 1975 is about £2.39 in 2017 (latest year that the converter works). https://www.officialdata.org/1975-GBP-in-2017?amount=0.30 17p in 1971 is £2.28 in 2017. It won't accept half pennies so add on about £0.06 to make it £2.34. https://www.officialdata.org/1971-GBP-in-2017?amount=0.17 Jason But if you compare magazines from 195 and 2018, you'll find the older one thinner, smaller and with many less photos. And in black & white. They aren't the same product at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Gents, You’re working it the wrong way: the RM cover price IS the unit by which all other things are measured. You will find that it gives a far more intuitively correct set of answers than RPI, CPI etc. Economists used to use the price of a Mars Bar in the same way, but I haven’t got a load of old mars wrappers with prices on, whereas ..... Kevin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 But if you compare magazines from 195 and 2018, you'll find the older one thinner, smaller and with many less photos. And in black & white. They aren't the same product at all. No. They were vastly better. I wasn't comparing the magazine, just the price/value. Jason 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 You mean "read for free"? I doubt it, but you can buy a digital subscription which gives you access to back issues.As a matter of interest, how far back do the digital issues go? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold martin_wynne Posted July 12, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 12, 2018 As a matter of interest, how far back do the digital issues go? January 2011 is the first one accessible with a digital subscription. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris M Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 It worked! Add the Peco brand and get three pages of mentions for RM on this forum. Nice to see the branding on the front page. It’s good for RM to associate itself with its parent company, a successful company which has continued to manufacture most of its products in the UK and is a well respected name in the modelling fraternity across the world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted July 12, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 12, 2018 Gents, You’re working it the wrong way: the RM cover price IS the unit by which all other things are measured. You will find that it gives a far more intuitively correct set of answers than RPI, CPI etc. Economists used to use the price of a Mars Bar in the same way, but I haven’t got a load of old mars wrappers with prices on, whereas ..... Kevin But Mars bars are smaller now....... Cheers, Mick 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 No. They were vastly better. I wasn't comparing the magazine, just the price/value. Jason Better? A lot easier, certainly. I recall lengthy discussions that Steve Stratten and I had over the prospect of four-colour cover pictures on Model Railway Constructor instead of the traditional spot-colour masthead. Steve reckoned there would be endless complaints that whatever was illustrated was painted in the wrong shade. He wasn't wrong! (CJL) 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 I just think they were better magazines in general compared to the colourful magazines made nowaday. Not just railway modelling magazines I hasten to add. As an example look at the contents of the magazine mentioned above RM May 1975. http://www.magazineexchange.co.uk/railway-modeller-magazine-may-1975-issue.html Penllyn - K. C. TaylorCarrying Coals to Buckingham - Peter B. DennyModelling in N gauge - 3: Coaches - C. J. VerdonDeeford - A. DunmoreBakewell 7: The complete model - Stan RobertsPipers Mead - 2: The motive power - Allan DownesA lineside factory - Don TownsleyEyemouth - a postscript - J. E. HayKyle of Lochalsh MPD - E. N. BellassIt happens to the best of us! - Alan CookWagon Page: MR 12T high-sided goods and mineral wagon - Ken WerrettSharp Stewart 0-6-0 goods engine - R. M. Drake-BrockmanRickmansworth, LNWR - H. F. CockshottRecapitulation - C. J. FreezerLettersModellers' BookshelfNews SpecialScrapbox Much more interesting than "How to renumber your RTR locomotive" for the umpteenth time IMO. No offence intended to any writers or editors, I still buy the new ones as well. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman7 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 I'm waiting for them to go back to including pictures of the actual modellers on the front cover with their layouts. Ideally dressed in cardigan, shirt and tie, and smoking a pipe. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Huw Griffiths Posted July 12, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 12, 2018 I'm waiting for them to go back to including pictures of the actual modellers on the front cover with their layouts. Ideally dressed in cardigan, shirt and tie, and smoking a pipe. ... But, if they're smoking a pipe, how can they possibly be described as "average enthusiasts"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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