RMweb Premium Coryton Posted June 21, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 21, 2018 I've seen some nice layouts of Swiss narrow gauge railways with proper loco hauled trains and would quite like to experience the real thing. However, I get the impression that like much of the world a lot of services are now run by multiple units, albeit some with nice big windows, rack fitted etc. I have one day in Interlaken in an up-coming trip. Does anyone know if there are any loco-hauled trains left within day trip range? The ZentralBahn to Luzern seems to be run by EMUs now. The other narrow gauge part of the "Golden Pass" route (to Lausanne) seems to run their Panoramic trains with a engine in the middle and control cars at each end - an unusual configuration but not quite what I had in mind. Maybe the "Classic" trains are more conventional but there aren't many of those. The MOB seem to have a lot of multiple units for the Zermatt line but maybe loco-hauled as well? The Glacier Express appears to be loco-hauled but the times don't really work for me and nor does the cost of the reservations. And that's about as far as I've got - it seems to be fairly easy to find what routes EMUs run on, but not so easy to find where they don't run. If anyone has any reasonably up-to-date information I'd be much obliged! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted June 21, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 21, 2018 (edited) The Schynige Platte Bahn uses locos but I don't think that's what you mean! I don't know whether the BOB now has EMUs now but their stock used to be a power car* hauling x number of coaches, two such formations joined would leave Interlaken and divide at Zweilütschinen for the journeys to Grindelwald & Luterbrunnen. Keith *the power car also carried passengers. Edited June 21, 2018 by melmerby Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 5944 Posted June 21, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 21, 2018 There are a few ZB loco hauled workings out of Luzern I believe. Certainly were a couple of years ago, working Luzern to Engelberg services. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neils WRX Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 The MOB still has hourly hauled trains : MOB 6002 Gstaad by Neil Sutton, on Flickr 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Coryton Posted June 23, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 23, 2018 The MOB still has hourly hauled trains : MOB 6002 Gstaad by Neil Sutton, on Flickr Thanks for that. That looks more like it. (Although is that a locomotive or is it a motor luggage van? There is a suspiciously large door in the side...) Most of the pictures I can see though show the panoramic trains as having an engine in the middle and "streamlined" push-pull cars at each end. Certainly a loco-hauled/propelled train, but as I said above not quite what I was looking for. The images I've seen of MGB push-pull trains hauled/propelled by a motor luggage car look more like "proper trains" to me. I got the impression that the 'regular' MOB trains (i.e. not panoramic or classic) were multiple units but could be wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted June 23, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 23, 2018 It's a GDe4/4 which is a loco with a luggage compartment. Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neils WRX Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 This looks like a proper MOB loco!!! MOB 8003 Montbovon by Neil Sutton, on Flickr They do also work like this.... MOB 8002 Zweismmen by Neil Sutton, on Flickr 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted July 9, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 9, 2018 And there is of course the BRB at Brienz - expensive way of climbing a mountain but it should be 'quick boil' steam on the job. Also worth checking if there will be any steam specials over the ng between Interlaken and Mayerhofen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted July 9, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 9, 2018 Also worth checking if there will be any steam specials over the ng between Interlaken and Mayerhofen. That would be quite a journey. Best pack a passport as well Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DIW Posted July 9, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 9, 2018 And there is of course the BRB at Brienz - expensive way of climbing a mountain but it should be 'quick boil' steam on the job. Also worth checking if there will be any steam specials over the ng between Interlaken and Mayerhofen. DSCF0148.jpg That would be quite a journey. Best pack a passport as well Keith I suspect, Watson, that The Stationmaster intended Meiringen rather than Mayerhofen, so that the traveller could oberve the status of the Brienzer Rothern Bahn on the way through. At Meiringen there is the Sherlock Holmes statue, and the link with the Reichenbach Falls. Presumably Moriarty caused a typo by some foul means...... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted July 9, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 9, 2018 I suspect, Watson, that The Stationmaster intended Meiringen rather than Mayerhofen, so that the traveller could oberve the status of the Brienzer Rothern Bahn on the way through. At Meiringen there is the Sherlock Holmes statue, and the link with the Reichenbach Falls. Presumably Moriarty caused a typo by some foul means...... The BOB do of course run steam specials on occasion, as do the SPB I was fortunate to be there during their 100th anniversary bash. (purely by chance) My pictures are elsewhere on the forum. Keith 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Goldfish Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 I'm pretty sure the Luzern - Engelberg express at the other end of the ZB is still loco hauled http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/114732-swiss-holidays/page-1 Last did the train in 2016, but it was still the same setup in 2017 when we visited. If you can get down to Brig then the ex FO part of the MGB definitely still runs the baggage motor + coach sets which are sometimes loco hauled instead. Follows the glacia express route but doesn't cost an excessive amount extra and you don't have to do the whole route. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Boar Fell Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 The BOB is well worth the journey IMHO, when I went (ok 10 years ago next month) the stock was a real mixed bag of vehicles including some very nice and new Stadler trailers and driving trailers. I think it is sort of loco hauled, but the loco is basically a Railcar. To put it into more british terms, imagine a Pantograph fitted Class 153 hauling some MK2 and Mk3s with a DVT on the end. Enjoy! Wild Boar Fell 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 If you are travelling on the MOB from Interlaken, be aware that the 'first' train at a civilised time is usually heaving with tourists, but if you delay your start, or divert to do the branch down to Lenk, you will probably find you have nearly a coach to yourself (as I did). Jon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 If you are travelling on the MOB from Interlaken, be aware that the 'first' train at a civilised time is usually heaving with tourists, but if you delay your start, or divert to do the branch down to Lenk, you will probably find you have nearly a coach to yourself (as I did). bls100007.jpg Jon Similar experience with plenty of room to spread out on the 1100-ish Golden Pass train from Zweisimmen to Montreux, which was composed of the mad "fake-antique" coaches (really comfortable I have to say): That was ordinary 2nd class, but I had to check as it looked like a Pullman! Loco backing on: 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Coryton Posted July 16, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 16, 2018 Some really interesting photographs there. Having spent considerable time with the Thomas Cook* timetable and the SBB journey planner (which is quite happy with a circular trip though it won't offer you a fare) I'm thinking of heading down to Brig the scenic way, then the narrow gauge to Andermatt, to Goeschenen and back to Interlaken via Luzern. Should be some good scenery and a variety of rolling stock, and comfortably do-able in a day even with some missed connections. * I think think of it as the Thomas Cook even if it isn't. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Goldfish Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Good round trip that, spectacular scenery. Andermatt to Goschenen is one of my favourites. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Coryton Posted July 17, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 17, 2018 Andermatt to Goschenen is one of my favourites. Oh. Looking at OpenStreetMap it seems to be mostly in a tunnel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Goldfish Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Oh. Looking at OpenStreetMap it seems to be mostly in a tunnel. Don't let that fool you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Coryton Posted July 17, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 17, 2018 Don't let that fool you I hope in a few weeks I'll be able to see for myself... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Goldfish Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 I hope in a few weeks I'll be able to see for myself... From memory, I think you'll want to sit on the right as it heads down. It's more gallery than tunnel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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