Marakas Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Hi all can anyone tell me if this is a genuine photo, or is it a "photoshop" job. These look like German locos to me, although they could well have been brought over for testing. cheers Marakas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 That's a Photoshop. Those are Nohab Di3s/ M61s, or at least look very much like them, and they've never been to the UK. They also weren't built before 1954, after the end of the LNER. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall5 Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Photoshop job - and a poor one at that. The locos certainly aren't British - Norwegian maybe??? Ray. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Photoshop job - and a poor one at that. The locos certainly aren't British - Norwegian maybe??? Ray. or Danish, or Hungarian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dava Posted June 28, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28, 2018 I though they were models by Heljan for the UK market... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 (edited) There was of course a Diesel trialled on the LNER between Newcastle and Carlisle on passenger and freight in the 1930's, but it was not one of those... Edited June 28, 2018 by Titan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 or Danish, or Hungarian. or Belgian, or Luxembourgish, or ex-Danish running in Sweden or Germany or Hungary, or ex-Norwegian stored or running in Kosovo or Hungary, or none of the above. Actually they are Danish DSB class MX. Probably in Denmark, looking at the brickwork of the station building - but as the class has had various "second lives" on private lines in Denmark and various other countries, it might be somewhere else. Definitely not UK. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted June 28, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 28, 2018 Aren't they basically a European F3? So if the LNER had ordered FTs they would have looked like a smaller version of these ,but I'm sure I've read somewhere that it wanted single cab locos in multi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 They're basically an F7 underneath, though F units only had 2 axle trucks, whereas these have 3 axle trucks where in most examples they're all motored. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Two of the class sold to a railway contractor appeared in faux US railroad colours, one in Santa Fe warbonnet and the other in Great Northern orange and green. And very nice they looked too. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted June 28, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 28, 2018 They're basically an F7 underneath, though F units only had 2 axle trucks, whereas these have 3 axle trucks where in most examples they're all motored. Was there some A1A ones? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknich2003 Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Apart from everything else, the Flatbottom P Way is also a give away, definetly not in the UK. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 Apart from everything else, the Flatbottom P Way is also a give away, definetly not in the UK. ......... not to mention the low platforms. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold JohnR Posted June 29, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 29, 2018 The LNER and LMS both sent over people to the USA in 1945 to look at diesel locomotion. The result of that was the LMS built the "twins", and the LNER had a proposal to order 25 similar locomotives to replace a much larger number of steam locos on the east coast main line. Given the US influence, I would imagine they would look similar to the Twins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted June 29, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 29, 2018 Backtrack had an interesting article about 10 to 15 years ago about the proposed LNER diesels. From memory they would have been about 1,500 bhp, single cabbed but designed to run in pairs. The proposed drawings showed a flat front not a US style bonnet. I am a tad busy today but next week I will search through by folders to see If I still have the article. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 Two of the class sold to a railway contractor appeared in faux US railroad colours, one in Santa Fe warbonnet and the other in Great Northern orange and green. And very nice they looked too. Strictly speaking, these were both from the similar DSB MY class, generally designated as passenger locomotives, whereas the pictured (badly Photoshopped) ones were MX (generally freight). The Great Northern repaint was under the auspices of Tågåkeriet i Bergslagen, which so painted TMY106 (former DSB MY 1106). T43 107 was also repainted in the same livery. I think it may have been for a film. (Kristinehamm, 2001) The repaint into a kind of Santa Fe "warbonnet" livery was applied more recently to the former DSB MY 1125 by Kárpát Vasút Kft. in Hungary (their no. 459 021). (Komarom, 2016). Was there some A1A ones? Indeed. The Belgian ones (SNCB classes 52, 53, 54), Luxembourg (CFL 1600), Hungarian (MAV M61) and most of the Norwegian (NSB Di3a) were Co-Cos. The rest - Danish (DSB classes MV, MX and MY) and three Norwegians (NSB Di3b) were A1A-A1A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 (edited) This was the MY I was thinking of, a 'purer' version of the Warbonnet than the Hungarian version... Apparently the GN one was painted that way for "Dancer in the Dark", a Danish musical directed by Lars von Trier, and starring Bjork as a daydreaming immigrant factory worker who has a degenerative eye condition... And that's just three reasons why I've never seen it Edited June 29, 2018 by Dr Gerbil-Fritters 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted June 29, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 29, 2018 Backtrack had an interesting article about 10 to 15 years ago about the proposed LNER diesels. From memory they would have been about 1,500 bhp, single cabbed but designed to run in pairs. The proposed drawings showed a flat front not a US style bonnet. I am a tad busy today but next week I will search through by folders to see If I still have the article. That's where I read it, forgotten about them being flat fronted. Presumably they would have looked similar to an EM1 or 2 from the front Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 This was the MY I was thinking of, a 'purer' version of the Warbonnet than the Hungarian version... It's the same locomotive that I photographed a couple of years ago at Komarom. Former DSB MY 1125, previously owned by Strabag (who first painted it in "warbonnet" style), but sold on to Kárpát Vasút Kft. (who "Hungarianised" the stripes in national colours). I hope Roco credited you for the use of your photo in their publicity material! https://www.roco.cc/en/product/59919-0-0-1-2-0-0-002003-0/products.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 (edited) Hello! (Or should that be Hej!) The original image was nicked from Wikipedia - hardly obscure. Taken at Lemvig, Denmark in 1999. https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/NOHAB_AA16#/media/File:MX_26-Mx_41.jpg Whoever did it took out the speed restriction sign, the taped off area and removed the ribbing from the locomotives' bodysides. Edited June 29, 2018 by EddieB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 (edited) That picture of the "LNER" locos appeared on the fictitiousliveries website some time back. Basically all sorts of locos were photoshopped into "might have been" liveries. Sadly, the site seems to have disappeared. Stewart Edited June 30, 2018 by stewartingram Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastglosmog Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 Hello! (Or should that be Hej!) The original image was nicked from Wikipedia - hardly obscure. Taken at Lemvig, Denmark in 1999. https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/NOHAB_AA16#/media/File:MX_26-Mx_41.jpg Whoever did it took out the speed restriction sign, the taped off area and removed the ribbing from the locomotives' bodysides. But forgot to remove the clock face from behind the leading locomotive - a distinctly modern design! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
penyghent Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 This was the loco trialled by the LNER, the Armstrong Whitworth Universal Loco 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold JCL Posted July 2, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 2, 2018 (edited) It was called the Universal Locomotive and carried equipment that would allow it to be worked in multiples. This was stymied by the fact that only one was ever built. I don’t know why, but I’ve a real soft spot for it, and modelled it a few years ago. Edited July 2, 2018 by JCL 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
penyghent Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Wrote an article about this Loco in Today's Railways UK a few years back 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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