The Bigbee Line Posted July 14, 2018 Author Share Posted July 14, 2018 (edited) I was obviously not thinking when I laid the track. To get the coal stage in I had quite a curve on the run round road. Then looking at prototype picture, the coal stage is between the run round and the goods siding...Dooooh... So here's a rough version of how it should look.... Much better... Edited July 14, 2018 by The Bigbee Line 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRASinBothell Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 I think you're going to get a chance to model more than one kind of platform surface - tarmac near the station building, changing to gravel further out... Gordon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted July 15, 2018 Author Share Posted July 15, 2018 The track gang started early today. I set the rails at 42mm between the Platform Road and the Run Round Road, a handy 18mm piece of wood fitted between the sleeper ends as a gauge. It looks much better now re-laid.. Looking along the 2 parallel tracks the subtle curve at this end is visible. Hopefully it will give the track layout a slightly more interesting look and at the same time not give any coupling problems (I'm going to have Kadees between coaches). Using some ply sleepers I had on stock, I roughed out a representation of the coal stage, It looks the part. Just need to check out the various pictures that show the framing and get a better idea of its dimensions. Need to do a bit more before it becomes too hot. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted July 15, 2018 Author Share Posted July 15, 2018 There is a useful picture on Wikipedia, looking from the 'stops' end of the station. It shows the coal stage and the alignment of the tracks towards the stops. I need to try and emulate the arrangement. If interest is that the siding appears to have an end loading dock. I need to check with other pictures. An assumption is that the release road for the run round just had sufficient length for one Terrier....... https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/Hayling_Island_railway_station.jpg By Anonymous (Old postcard) [Public domain], via Wikimedia Commons 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Have you explored the ‘Hayling Billy’ website, compiled by locals and absolutely stuffed with useful/interesting info? http://haylingbillyheritage.org/railway-history-2/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted July 15, 2018 Author Share Posted July 15, 2018 Have you explored the ‘Hayling Billy’ website, compiled by locals and absolutely stuffed with useful/interesting info? http://haylingbillyheritage.org/railway-history-2/ Kevin, Yes thanks. It has some good stuff. You need to explore the links as they do not always pop up when using Mr Google... Any hints appreciated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted July 15, 2018 Author Share Posted July 15, 2018 (edited) I've moved the coal stage further from the baseboard joint. Then curving the siding on either side. I think it looks much better... The release road was also tried with some Peco Buffer Stops and a Terrier. Comments please. Edited July 15, 2018 by The Bigbee Line 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted July 23, 2018 Author Share Posted July 23, 2018 After a weekend in Lydd I collected a couple of coaches from the Post Office. Darstaed Mark 1's that will act as the coaching stock for Hayling Island. The run really nicely, with inertia suggestive of the real thing. My shallow curves look most realistic. I cut the rails at the baseboard joint and added the small shunt release. The bay platform line runs to the joint and the stops will be on the next board Looking from the throat The small neck and adjacent siding are cut to length. The release points need some remedial action to some of the point timbers. The strip wood will be where the platform will stand. The main platform comes almost to the V of the points, with no ramp, the platform just stops. The rear of the train in the main platform road. A couple of general shots The excellent magnetic vestibule connections The second is standing on the very shallow curve, no compromise there. The look of the coaches on the curve has even impressed me. I haven't shunted them with a loco, but the are nice and weighty, having a good feel when pushed along. The metal wheels giving a most realistic click as they go over the rail joints. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 I think Darstaed are making the Mk1 suburban soon, and iirc the Hayling line had the prototype of a GRP version of these allocated. So, you might get a steel model of a plastic coach, which would be an interesting inversion of normality. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted July 23, 2018 Author Share Posted July 23, 2018 I think Darstaed are making the Mk1 suburban soon, and iirc the Hayling line had the prototype of a GRP version of these allocated. So, you might get a steel model of a plastic coach, which would be an interesting inversion of normality. They are doing the 57' version first, I have an all third on order in Crimson. The Hayling Island ran some of the 64' versions in Crimson, then repainted in Green. Looking forward to seeing them, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlwynut Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 About two years ago I was thinking of modeling the Hayling Island branch in 7mm and did a lot of research. I found some videos on you tube of the line that where very interesting and informative. Plus I found a lot of photos on Google as well both in Colour and B/W I ended up doing something else but thought this info maybe of help to you. Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted July 24, 2018 Author Share Posted July 24, 2018 It was sweltering again today, but I wanted to start roughing out the station throat. My first attempts didn't look right as I was not allowing enough distance. I got out a peco curved point (wrong hand ........) and had a re-jig. Looking at the map and 'fag packet' sketch it was clear that the approach and pointwork would be as long as the platform boards.. So I need to order some more track and 2 left hand curved points. Then play about with the alignment until it looks right. Here is a very rough idea of what it will look like.... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted August 13, 2018 Author Share Posted August 13, 2018 The Peco Curved Left Hand points were on back order and arrived at the weekend. Plus my box of C&L flexi-track. I had pondered how to arrange the station throat, having a go with the Peco printed templates but it isn't the same as real track.. The workshop also needed the tidy up / sorting to continue. I knew I had 2 more unmade Screw-fix trestles, but could I find them... As dustbin day was for general waste I had a Sunday night session in the depths of the workshop; filled the bin and found the trestles... Not having to balance on only 2 trestles let me set up the 2 main boards and play about with the station throat. Again it was viewing pictures of the prototype that helped most. Here is version 1 of the station throat. The right hand curved point acting as a trap will not be a full turnout, just switches... This is the trap from the yard on the real thing... The Peco points take a micro-switch under the boarding modelled over the tie bar. Has anyone used that type of switch in conjunction with a Peco point motor. I have a box of motors so might give it a try. The station throat will fit on 3 x 80cm long boards, narrowing from 60 cm on the main boards, by 10cm on each board until the last board is 30 cm wide at the narrow end. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwr Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 The gangways on those Darstead coaches are superb. Best I think I have seen. Be interesting to see the Dapol solution Paul R Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted August 14, 2018 Author Share Posted August 14, 2018 I took my coaches out today for a test run. The bay platform will take 3, but the end coach is not all in the platform. I think I'll extend the line across the next board joint to get all 3 coaches on the platform. I like the way that the curves are gentle enough to give a realistic look to the coaches. Next job is to sort out the boards to cope with the gentle curve of the approach. One bonus of the curved boards is that there will be space fpr the Drivers Bothy to have a home... 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 (edited) The Peco Curved Left Hand points were on back order and arrived at the weekend. Plus my box of C&L flexi-track. I had pondered how to arrange the station throat, having a go with the Peco printed templates but it isn't the same as real track.. The workshop also needed the tidy up / sorting to continue. I knew I had 2 more unmade Screw-fix trestles, but could I find them... As dustbin day was for general waste I had a Sunday night session in the depths of the workshop; filled the bin and found the trestles... Not having to balance on only 2 trestles let me set up the 2 main boards and play about with the station throat. Again it was viewing pictures of the prototype that helped most. Here is version 1 of the station throat. The right hand curved point acting as a trap will not be a full turnout, just switches... IMG_1090.jpg IMG_1094.jpg IMG_1096.jpg IMG_1104.jpg This is the trap from the yard on the real thing... img 001 Hayling-Island-Station.jpg The Peco points take a micro-switch under the boarding modelled over the tie bar. Has anyone used that type of switch in conjunction with a Peco point motor. I have a box of motors so might give it a try. The station throat will fit on 3 x 80cm long boards, narrowing from 60 cm on the main boards, by 10cm on each board until the last board is 30 cm wide at the narrow end. I've used the Micro switch that fits into the box between the Rails many times Ernie, and with Peco above and below baseboard Motors, really good and works 100%. I don't have the same faith in the ones that stick onto the under board Motors, some good and some bad results with those. Edited August 14, 2018 by Andrew P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
two tone green Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Great looking layout. Pleased you like the coaches. Well pleased with mine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted August 25, 2018 Author Share Posted August 25, 2018 It's been a busy couple of weeks at work. Trips to Dagenham, Trostre and Milford Haven for work, with a visit to the Gwilli which fortuitously is 5 minutes from my cousins. Once back the garden needed a bit of TLC. So today I spent a bit of time with the first of the boards with the station throat. The board is approx. 150 cm long and will have a curved front. I have done carpentry dress making, adding some darts... The front of the board still has to receive its curved extension at the front... The back of the board has straight edges, with angled joints... The wooden folded ruler shows the joint between the platform boards and the first station throat board. The picture on the right shows roughly where the curved point will sit on the next board... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted August 27, 2018 Author Share Posted August 27, 2018 Today I managed some time in the workshop after some hardcore gardening... The darned cabbage white are on the rampage. The 2 beds of greens have been cocooned in shading netting... Let the blighters get through that.... Anyway back to the railway. The first curved point between was pinned down along with the curve to the platform line. Right hand curved point was trimmed to form the trap point from the run round and goods siding I had some Wills OO point rodding, that seemed a bit over scale, I need to check the dimensions to see hoe it compares to O scale 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwr Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 A lot of the Wills stuff seems over scale for OO. I too am thinking of trying the point ridding and will be interested to see how you get on Paul R Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted August 28, 2018 Author Share Posted August 28, 2018 Tonight the second and final board for the station throat was sorted. An 18" x 48" board was subject to the usual carpentry efforts. Shown here butted against the previous board. A couple of darts were cut and the board shaped to match the curve... Here with the first curved point and the line towards Havant laid in.... The end of the board is 18" wide, with the track 6" in from the front, with 12" at the rear for some interesting scenery... The scenery in the area is very flat and quite bleak in the winter. A bit like the branches to New Romney and Allhallows... The 4 boards form a J just under 17 feet long. It will fit into the workshop and if set a slight angle there is room for a small fiddle yard. So far it is the most interesting layout I've built as the idea was not to have any tracks parallel with the long straight edge of the 2 station boards. The boards of the station throat have followed the alignment of the track rather than the track following the board... The next job is to create the front facia, it will be straight on the station boards at 24" width and then curve in on the station throat boards to match the 18" width. I might add a small scenic only board at the end of the line for exhibition use, curving round to avoid a sharp corner... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 The flat field just beyond the station was used to pasture beach ponies. As a girl, my mother used to help look after them, and would ride them bareback, racing the train and pretending to fire arrows at it as in ‘cowboy and Indian’ films, while her brothers lit small bonfires on the track in an effort to ‘hold up’ the train so that they could rob the passengers. An unusual cameo for your layout??! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted August 28, 2018 Author Share Posted August 28, 2018 The flat field just beyond the station was used to pasture beach ponies. As a girl, my mother used to help look after them, and would ride them bareback, racing the train and pretending to fire arrows at it as in ‘cowboy and Indian’ films, while her brothers lit small bonfires on the track in an effort to ‘hold up’ the train so that they could rob the passengers. An unusual cameo for your layout??! We are off to Telford at the weekend. I must write a shopping list for 2 purposes: 1) Only to buy the things I need. 2) Avoid the impulse buys.... So some items for Cameo's will be on the list. I was thinking what season to model? I could be really sad and choose a particular day... I quite fancy a section of field with some kind of agricultural implement in use...... On the other hand something more modest my be more suitable... The station had an end loading dock so flats with machinery on would be excusable... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fastdax Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 The flat field just beyond the station was used to pasture beach ponies. As a girl, my mother used to help look after them, and would ride them bareback, racing the train and pretending to fire arrows at it as in ‘cowboy and Indian’ films, while her brothers lit small bonfires on the track in an effort to ‘hold up’ the train so that they could rob the passengers. An unusual cameo for your layout??! How very "Swallows and Amazons" :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Another ‘field cameo’ could be Bobby Tambling, long-time Chelsea top-scorer, playing footie with his brothers. He was in my uncle’s class at primary school and a wizard footballer by the time he was ten. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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