Purchased N scale Late BR Q1 - What RTR wagons / brake van do I need

[Tom_N_Gauge]

Hi Guys,

 

I normally model modern image but I had the urge to buy a N scale Dapol Q1 with late BR logo. Something about it's design just appealed to me.

 

What RTR N scale wagons and brake van would go well with it? I've had a quick google but I can't find many good pictures.

 

Thanks, Tom.

[Ian Morgan]

Plenty of inspirational photos here: https://www.pinterest.co.uk/aitken2601/southern-bulleid-q1-0-6-0/

 

So, 16T minerals, standard BR or ex-SR 'Pillbox' brake vans, various 12T vans, various open wagons, etc. etc.

 

All dirty.

 

 

[dpgibbons]

Some Farish 12T ex-SR vans will add the right regional flavour.

[jim.snowdon]

Some Farish 12T ex-SR vans will add the right regional flavour.

Such regional flavour as there is will come from the loco and, to a lesser extent, the brake van, which might just as easily be a BR type or even an escapee from another region. The rest of the stock in between will be mix of everything appropriate to the class of train in question.

 

Jim

[The Johnster]

A late logo Q1 will be used on general Southern Region freight work during the period 1958-67, so any traffic with the exception of air braked could be seen behind them, and even air braked vehicles could be hauled as unfitted with the brakes isolated.  Period 4 and 5 liveried vehicles are suitable.  Brake vans would be ex-Southern types, but only BR standard and LMS 20 tonners plus the odd Queen Mary at the end of the period; a very small number of SECR type pill boxes lasted into the 70s as well.  

 

General merchandise wagons got pretty mixed up quite rapidly after nationalisation due to pool working, so all types could be seen everywhere, with the BR standard designs making an increasing impact towards the later 50s.  I would, for post 1958, go for about a half of your wagons being BR standards, and the other half being later Big 4 designs, half of that being LMS.  Go for about a 6 to 4 ratio of vans and opens, and by 1958 most were fitted vehicles in bauxite livery, XP branded.  Marshall unfitted minerals to the rear; again, after 1958 the steel standard type becomes prevalent and there were few wooden ones after about 1963.

[LNWR18901910]

PECO, Dapol and Graham Farish (by Bachmann) do marvellous ranges of private owner wagons.

[Talltim]

PECO, Dapol and Graham Farish (by Bachmann) do marvellous ranges of private owner wagons.

Which would all need repainting (or VERY heavy weathering) for the period

[dpgibbons]

According to Don Rowland's "British Railway Wagons", two-thirds of BR's pre-grouping stock had been withdrawn by 1959. The ex-PO mineral fleet would have been pretty thin by then.

[hmrspaul]

GWR brake vans on interchange traffic - although most would be 4 wheel SR brake vans. Any freight vehicles built after c1930 (after all they were only 25 -32 years old for the late logo Q1) on a steel frame. Not many wooden framed wagons survived at that time - which is why the ex Private Traders went out of use. The more common unfitted tank wagons - Esso at Fawley and SMBP at Grain being the main traffic, with the Berry Wiggins working in rakes to the WR.

 

Paul