RMweb Gold russ p Posted July 18, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 18, 2018 I've just priced the DCC11 socket 30 to over 40 pounds. Sorry but that's a bit expensive for an Ethernet splitter that can be mounted on a wall. Anyone know of a more reasonable equivalent? Cheers Russ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIMorrison Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 You could get yourself a faceplate and punchdown the wires yourself - really simple and easy https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4-Ports-RJ45-Face-Plate-Wall-Sockets-Cat5E-QUAD-4-Port-with-Keystones-Jacks-UK/191847768232?hash=item2cab04a0a8%3Ag%3AKY4AAOSw5L9XDh%7EA&_sacat=0&_nkw=rg45+faceplate&_from=R40&rt=nc tool https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/IDC-Insertion-Punch-Push-Down-Tool-Bt-Telephone-Socket-Network-Rj45-Cat-3-5-6/391948666203?epid=1388658770&hash=item5b41f6055b%3Ag%3A6IsAAOSwZlZaOxZu&_sacat=0&_nkw=punch+down+tool&_from=R40&rt=nc&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313.TR8.TRC1.A0.H0.Xpunch+down+tool.TRS0 for cable just buy some leads and chop the ends off to get to the wire, that way the other end is already in a plug to use on the Prodigy and this is how to punch down http://bfy.tw/J6Bj Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted July 18, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 18, 2018 Thanks, unfortunately I already have bought all the cables and some what looked like splinters but aren't! So these don't work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIMorrison Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 (edited) what about one of these then? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Splitter-Ethernet-RJ45-Cable-Adapter-1-Male-To-3-Female-Port-LAN-Network-I01/192573053782?epid=23020579784&hash=item2cd63f9b56%3Ag%3Au2sAAOSwV9ha8sJs&_sacat=0&_nkw=rg45+splitter&_from=R40&rt=nc you might also need some of these as you already have the cables https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Network-Ethernet-Lan-Cable-Joiner-Coupler-Connector-Adaptor-RJ45-CAT6-100Mbps/292637180109?hash=item44228900cd%3Am%3AmNHbYzkwJ9m1Gcrtm_uB7Dg&var=591439311563&_sacat=0&_nkw=rg45+joiner&_from=R40&rt=nc Edited July 18, 2018 by WIMorrison Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted July 18, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 18, 2018 That's looking more like it ,but could do with something I could screw to the side of the boards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIMorrison Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Screw a bit of wood over it to clamp it down? thats one way, I can think of several others - as I am sure you can also Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted July 18, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 18, 2018 I have some very cheap splitters that work so these may get mounted. My old NCE sockets looked very nice but unfortunately not compatible Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIMorrison Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Here you go - all the functions of the panel https://m.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m4084.l1313&_nkw=253301752154 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted July 19, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 19, 2018 That's what I have now. Different sockets. So much for dcc being standard? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIMorrison Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 I find that all my DCC kit is standard and has been for all the types I have used - they all use RG11 plugs, very few seem to use RG45 plugs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted July 19, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 19, 2018 So its the gaugemaster system that is non compliant Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Izzy Posted July 20, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 20, 2018 I’m not sure there is a standard specified, at least I can’t see anything in the NMRA specs in regard to it. But I would have thought that RJ45 Ethernet plugs/wiring at 8 core for data use was better than RJ11 telephone at 4/6. Izzy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigelcliffe Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 So its the gaugemaster system that is non compliant There is no standard for interconnection within a DCC system. Manufacturers pick whatever socket/plug works for them, and then set the protocol over those wires. Nobody is compliant, because there is no standard. As to the RJ45 parts required to add plug in points for Gaugemaster. I've done installations with Ethernet faceplates and cable inserted with a "Krone" tool. Very cheap, and end result looks good. There is a limit to number of handsets (not number of sockets), and that is when some additional power is needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIMorrison Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 I’m not sure there is a standard specified, at least I can’t see anything in the NMRA specs in regard to it. But I would have thought that RJ45 Ethernet plugs/wiring at 8 core for data use was better than RJ11 telephone at 4/6. Izzy Given that your broadband comes to your house over 2 wires I don't think that anymore would be needed it is simply down to the availability and price of components RG11 were very popular at the start of DCC because cables with those ends were readily available, and as they are thinner with only 2 (or 3) pairs they more flexible than ethernet cable with 4 pairs - which is important for wired handsets. The net result is that RG11 is still popular as OEMs have remained with what they started with 20+ years ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 (edited) You will find the Gaugemaster Prodigy or the same MRC system uses doubled up cores. I.e. core 1 is connected to core 5 and 2 to 6 and so on in the sockets. Hence the 8 core (4 pair) cable supplied. I use standard RJ45 sockets as remote connectors. Edited July 20, 2018 by Brian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAF96 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 I have recently been looking for various 4 & 6-pin RJ crimp on connectors to make up Walkabout and Booster cables for Hornby kit and found them initially in my local PC repair shop in Limassol, then in UK at my local Security Alarm installers as well as at Screwfix. The pliers crimp tool I found in Homebase for about £15 replacing my previous flimsy pair. In the past I had used a networking kit from B&Q to install faceplate sockets that linked my layout bits using standard RJ45 network cables to a large track mimic board on the far end wall of the loft. Pictures of these bits previously posted on here. Rob 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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