LNWR Society Modelling competition - framework and dates

[Andy Y]

LNWR Society Modelling competition

 

 

The Society will hold an annual competition for modelling of the London and North Western Railway. The purpose of the competition is to promote interest in the accurate representation of the Company and its predecessors using available records.

 

The Society is pleased to record the support given by the British Railway Modelling magazine, Bachmann Europe PLC, and London Northwestern Railway.

 

The entries will be judged by a panel of expert modellers independently of the Society and awards will be made by the Trustees of the Society to the entry in each of the following categories which, in the opinion of the judges, shows excellence in representing the LNWR: 

1. Motive power, including locomotives, rail motors and motor trains,

2. Rolling stock (coaches and wagons),

3. Infrastructure and equipment, including buildings and structures, signalling, trackwork and all other items of equipment such as horse-drawn vehicles. 

 

There will also be two ‘best overall’ awards, one to be awarded by LNWR Society members and another to be awarded by BRM / RMweb readers, and one prize awarded by the LNWRS President to the best newcomer.

 

The criteria for entry are:

1. For the motive power and rolling stock categories, entries must be models of items which originated with the LNWR or its predecessors, but do not have to be modelled in LNWR condition or period and could portray items up to and including the preservation period.

2. For the infrastructure and equipment category, a substantial part of an entry must be a model of an item or items which originated with the LNWR or its predecessors but does not have to be modelled in LNWR condition or period.

3. In the case of a layout, a significant proportion of the layout should be recognisably LNWR in origin.

4. Any scale and any gauge is permissible. Entries may be scratch-built, kit-built, ‘ready-to-run’, or combinations of these.

 

Prizes will include:

1. A year’s subscription to the LNWR Society (or payment of the subscription if a current member),

2. Two train packs and two locomotives from Bachmann,

3. Two return tickets between any two points on the London Northwestern Railway network,

4. A selection of LNWRS publications,

5. An etched brass coach kit from Stevenson Carriages,

6. An LNWR print from the railway artist Gerald Broom.

 

All participants, once their entry is logged, will receive a ‘colourised’ LNWR screen saver.

 

Participants in competition will be invited to post up to 12 photographs of their entry on RMweb in the section established specially for the competition. These photographs will form the basis for the judging. Photographs of the winning entries will be displayed on the LNWRS stand at exhibitions. 

 

Arrangements may be made for the actual models to be present.

 

The competition was announced on 21 July 2018 at the open day event at the SVR museum at Kidderminster and close on 5 January 2019. 

 

The winners will be announced on the LNWRS stand at the Stafford Railway Circle Exhibition on 2&3 February 2019.

 

Please use this topic to ask any general questions.

 

Please start a topic if you wish to discuss your entry or ask questions specific to your entry.

 

I had chance to chat to the society secretary, Tim Birch, at the weekend.

 

 

Back in April Phil Parker and I visited the society archives to look at some material.

 

 

[chris p bacon]

 

The criteria for entry are:

1. For the motive power and rolling stock categories, entries must be models of items which originated with the LNWR or its predecessors, but do not have to be modelled in LNWR condition or period and could portray items up to and including the preservation period.

 

 

 

 So I'm guessing locomotives from the "Sandy & Potton" which was absorbed by the "Bedford & Cambridge' then the LNWR count... . .

 

If they do, I have a plan. . . .

Edited July 23, 2018 by chris p bacon

[sharris]

If they do, I have a plan. . . .

 

Is it a cunning plan? 

[chris p bacon]

Is it a cunning plan? 

 

More cunning than an MP with a packet of lard and a feather duster...

[Argos]

Hi Andy,

 

Being a member of the LNWR society I'm surprised this hasn't been publicized by them (unless I've missed it).

 

A couple of questions:-

 

 - does the model have to be built during the competition, i.e started or finished after the 21st July?

 - how do you "log" and entry?

 

Thanks

 

Angus

[Andy Y]

Hi Andy,

 

Being a member of the LNWR society I'm surprised this hasn't been publicized by them (unless I've missed it).

 

A couple of questions:-

 

- does the model have to be built during the competition, i.e started or finished after the 21st July?

- how do you "log" and entry?

 

Thanks

 

Angus

Mike Musson has posted it on the society Facebook page. Models in progress are perfectly acceptable as entries and if you create a topic here it'll get things rolling. I will check on the official submission process.

[Irish_R_M]

Does this qualify? LNWR Hotel on Dublin's North Wall Quay.

 

 

And the adjacent LNWR Station...

 

 

Central focus of my quayside layout, might encourage me to do a bit. 

 

Richard. 

 

P.S. Both still survive in perfect slumber

[Argos]

Thanks Andy,

 

I don't do Facebook so that'll be why I haven't seen it.

 

I'll start a topic on my cunning plan, presumably lard and a feather duster are not compulsory?

 

Angus

[Jol Wilkinson]

Hi Andy,

 

Being a member of the LNWR society I'm surprised this hasn't been publicized by them (unless I've missed it).

 

A couple of questions:-

 

 - does the model have to be built during the competition, i.e started or finished after the 21st July?

 - how do you "log" and entry?

 

Thanks

 

Angus

 

Angus,

 

LNWR Society Newsletter No. 190, June 2018, page 14 carries the rules as in Andy's OP.

 

Any scale or gauge is permitted, so we could see some of the superb live steam LNWR locos that appear at the annual Steam Up appear. Likewise there are some excellent professionally built models, mainly 7mm, in Society members hands. Should I bother to enter any of my rather average 4mm stuff?

 

This is an interesting and welcome development. I was a Trustee (Committee Member) and Promotions Officer for some years in the late Noughties and early Tens and found an amount of resistance to the modelling community from certain established "celebrity" members. This was rather ironic as many peoples first experience of the LNWR came through seeing, in print or in the flesh so to speak, layouts such as Roger Stapleton's LNWR Steam Shed, Narrow Road, Clarendon, David Pennington's Stanmore, Sandy Croal's Penlan (formerly Hartwell), Geoff William's Aylesbury, Banbury North Western, Childs Ercal, Norman Heaton's Millport Victoria and London Road among others. All 4mm, built and stocked without any support from the RTR manufacturers.

 

Jol

Edited July 23, 2018 by Jol Wilkinson

[Scottish Modeller]

Hi all,

 

I'm interested but need sdome help first.

 

LNWR Locomotive sheds

 

Are there any available drawings of the 'standard' LNWR Northlight type sheds?

 

I used to have the drawings as I built one in the 70's but I seem to have lost it in thevarious moves since then.

 

BTW - I would be using theshed in a 'modern' context, BR Blue era diorama.

 

Thanks

[Jol Wilkinson]

From memory (my copy is in the workshop at the top of the garden at present) Jack Nelsons LNWR Portrayed had drawings and details. It can usually be picked up s/h from the usual suspects.

 

The LNWR Society drawing lists can be downloaded here;

 

http://www.lnwrs.org.uk/drawing01.php

[Argos]

I seem to recall there was also some drawings published in the Railway Modeller along with an article on building a model by Ken Ball.

 

It was a while ago, I'd have to go and dig though my stack of old copies to find it.

[Argos]

Angus,

 

LNWR Society Newsletter No. 190, June 2018, page 14 carries the rules as in Andy's OP.

 

Any scale or gauge is permitted, so we could see some of the superb live steam LNWR locos that appear at the annual Steam Up appear. Likewise there are some excellent professionally built models, mainly 7mm, in Society members hands. Should I bother to enter any of my rather average 4mm stuff?

 

This is an interesting and welcome development. I was a Trustee (Committee Member) and Promotions Officer for some years in the late Noughties and early Tens and found an amount of resistance to the modelling community from certain established "celebrity" members. This was rather ironic as many peoples first experience of the LNWR came through seeing, in print or in the flesh so to speak, layouts such as Roger Stapleton's LNWR Steam Shed, Narrow Road, Clarendon, David Pennington's Stanmore, Sandy Croal's Penlan (formerly Hartwell), Geoff William's Aylesbury, Banbury North Western, Childs Ercal, Norman Heaton's Millport Victoria and London Road among others. All 4mm, built and stocked without any support from the RTR manufacturers.

 

Jol

 

Thanks Jol,

 

I must have missed that!

 

I am going to enter, not in expectation of winning rather as driver to improve my skills.

In reality if your models are "average" I haven't a hope in hell!

Still I'll have some fun in the process.

 

Angus

[Scottish Modeller]

I seem to recall there was also some drawings published in the Railway Modeller along with an article on building a model by Ken Ball.

 

It was a while ago, I'd have to go and dig though my stack of old copies to find it.

Hi Argos,

 

I think the Ken Ball article and drawings are the ones I had.

 

Now trying to find my paper index and see if I still have the mag or if it's one that has gone walkabout at some point over the intervening years.

[Londontram]

Hi all,

 

I'm interested but need sdome help first.

 

LNWR Locomotive sheds

 

Are there any available drawings of the 'standard' LNWR Northlight type sheds?

 

I used to have the drawings as I built one in the 70's but I seem to have lost it in thevarious moves since then.

 

BTW - I would be using theshed in a 'modern' context, BR Blue era diorama.

 

Thanks

LMS Engine shed volume 1 the LNWR by Hawkins and Reeve had if I recall some drawings as well as obviously many photos.

[mikemusson]

Does this qualify? LNWR Hotel on Dublin's North Wall Quay.

 

 

And the adjacent LNWR Station...

 

 

Central focus of my quayside layout, might encourage me to do a bit. 

 

Richard. 

 

P.S. Both still survive in perfect slumber

Richard it certainly does. We look forward to receiving your registration. If you need any information our colleagues will try to help.

 

Mike M

[mikemusson]

LMS Engine shed volume 1 the LNWR by Hawkins and Reeve had if I recall some drawings as well as obviously many photos.

 

As already suggested, H and R have some drawings. We have been given permission by some magazines to make available relevant articles so if you see an article of interest quote the name of the magazine and edition so we can follow this up.

 

Mike M

[mikemusson]

Members of the L&NWR Society might wish to know that we have just launched an embryonic online archive. Its currently located in the Miscellaneous section under General Discussion as this is the only password protected facility we currently have, Eventually it will be on our webbsite.

 

The first sixty LNWR Society Journals, covering the period December 1993 to March 2006, are on line as are seventeen Portfolios, Joint and Special Publications. Contained within them is a significant amount of information that will interest and help modellers of all scales.

 

Contemporary and original L&NWR material is being catered for too. As a starter we have added a couple of plans of Colwyn Bay Station including a footbridge drawing, 25 Siding Diagrams and later today the first volumes of F Moore's Railway Magazine, the first edition being printed in 1897. Further additions will be made even quicker if people volunteer to help, and you can do this from the comfort from your home!

 

Not yet a member of the Society? Modellers registering to enter the competition can obtain the Francis Webb Bursary which means your first year's membership is only £15.00 instead of £30.00.

 

Mike M

[Argos]

Hi Mike, good to know.

 

I've been a member for a few years now and can heartedly recommended the quality of the journal for information covering a myriad of topics.

 

I always look forward to it dropping through the letter box and have been tracking down back numbers.

 

The new online archive will be most welcome.

 

Angus

Edited July 25, 2018 by Argos

[Compound2632]

Should I bother to enter any of my rather average 4mm stuff?

 

 

Surely yes, simply because many entries will make the competition a success, encouraging other line societies to follow suit.

 

Anyway, which average 4mm stuff is that? I haven't noticed any on your w/b topic.

Edited July 25, 2018 by Compound2632

[Crewe North]

Jol

 

This is an interesting and welcome development. I was a Trustee (Committee Member) and Promotions Officer for some years in the late Noughties and early Tens and found an amount of resistance to the modelling community from certain established "celebrity" members. This was rather ironic as many peoples first experience of the LNWR came through seeing, in print or in the flesh so to speak, layouts such as Roger Stapleton's LNWR Steam Shed, Narrow Road, Clarendon, David Pennington's Stanmore, Sandy Croal's Penlan (formerly Hartwell), Geoff William's Aylesbury, Banbury North Western, Childs Ercal, Norman Heaton's Millport Victoria and London Road among others. All 4mm, built and stocked without any support from the RTR manufacturers.

 

Jol

Way back in the '90's I was on the committee as Modelling Officer, all articles had to be put in the Newsletter not the Journal as,being told by other committee members the Society is NOT a modelling society. As some of these people are still on the Committee I rejoice at them at last seeing the light.

 

John

[Penlan]

Way back in the '90's I was on the committee as Modelling Officer, all articles had to be put in the Newsletter not the Journal as, being told by other committee members the Society is NOT a modelling society. As some of these people are still on the Committee I rejoice at them at last seeing the light.

One of the ironies is that most of the 'progress' in research of the LNWR has been driven by the modelers seeking more information on a topic and / or clarification of details.  There's still a number of details I've sought over the years to be resolved.

I haven't been a member of the Society for a long time now, for varied reasons, some have been hinted above, others are domestic.

The Society's Facebook page run by Mike Musson at https://www.facebook.com/groups/109619289726001/?fref=nf is open to anybody to join, subject to vetting (I think).  I understand there is some resistance within the Society to the FB pages, but if it increases Membership and understanding of the LNWR, all to the better - They still have their own Forum within the Society to discuss matters.

At one time - probably pre. WW2 - there seemed to be more LNWR themed models / layouts than another, popular, company's.

Back in the 1970's, the early days of the Society, most of the members where focused on Locomotives, 1:1 scale, although the list of people (and layouts) in Jol's post #9 above were all members at one time and of course there was also Jack Nelson, who I was fortunate to know, and others whose names now escape me.

 

I shall be watching this topic, and the competition, with interest.

Edited July 25, 2018 by Penlan

[Crewe North]

One of the ironies is that most of the 'progress' in research of the LNWR has been driven by the modelers seeking more information on a topic and / or clarification of details. There's still a number of details I've sought over the years to be resolved.

I haven't been a member of the Society for a long time now, for varied reasons, some have been hinted above, others are domestic.

The Society's Facebook page run by Mike Musson at https://www.facebook.com/groups/109619289726001/?fref=nf is open to anybody to join, subject to vetting (I think). I understand there is some resistance within the Society to the FB pages, but if it increases Membership and understanding of the LNWR, all to the better - They still have their own Forum within the Society to discuss matters.

At one time - probably pre. WW2 - there seemed to be more LNWR themed models / layouts than another, popular, company's.

Back in the 1970's, the early days of the Society, most of the members where focused on Locomotives, 1:1 scale, although the list of people (and layouts) in Jol's post #9 above were all members at one time and of course there was also Jack Nelson, who I was fortunate to know, and others whose names now escape me.

I shall be watching this topic, and the competition, with interest.

That is very true the problem with the LNWRS is that the majority of the membership is of a certain age and thus things like computers and Facebook goes over their heads. Hopefully the modelling competition and the Facebook page will bring in younger members to the Society....if not I fear the worst......

 

John

Edited July 25, 2018 by Crewe North

[luke the train spotter]

That is very true the problem with the LNWRS is that the majority of the membership is of a certain age and thus things like computers and Facebook goes over their heads. Hopefully the modelling competition and the Facebook page will bring in younger members to the Society....if not I gear the worst......

 

John

Well there might be some hope John. Im only 16 and I'm working on my entry. I find all these less modelled railways fascinating and any excuse to model one must be taken!

[Crewe North]

[quote name="Penlan" post="3243659"- They still have their own Forum within the Society to discuss matters.

 

They do indeed still have a forum but in a way it sums up the 'elderley' society inasmuch the the membership is say 600+ only 181 are registered on it. Topics are infrequent and if you reply to one the reply disappears to be 'vetted' before it appears on the site about 24hrs later......hardly ideal

 

John