Peco 4 wheel milk tank wagon

[dube]

Want to run a milk train in early 1930s livery GWR area, are these wagons accurate? I understand they were rebuilt as 6 wheelers in the 30s maybe mix with Hornby Dapol wagons from the same milk company ?

Edited July 28, 2018 by dube

[BernardTPM]

There's a drawing on the RCTS site. The Peco Model isn't far out - 6" short on wheelbase and overall length, but perhaps doesn't quite look the part.

Edited July 29, 2018 by BernardTPM

[Pint of Adnams]

The drawing is for an LMS built 4 wheel milk tank...

 

The GWR only built 12 3000 gallon 4 wheel milk tank in 1927 for United Dairies, subsequently converted to 6 wheel. All the remainder were built with 6 wheels from new. The brake gear was probably the distinctive Dean Churchward type. Siphon bogie vans were also used for carrying milk in churns.

[Karhedron]

Here is a shot of the original 4-wheelers. Given their cleanliness, adjacent numbering and men in smart suits, I would hazard a guess that they are being inspected upon delivery to Wooten Basset.

 

[Steamport Southport]

Just goes to show that the Hornby version from the mid 1970s wasn't quite as bad as I thought.

 

http://www.hornbyguide.com/item_details.asp?itemid=181

 

 

 

Jason

[brianusa]

Just goes to show that the Hornby version from the mid 1970s wasn't quite as bad as I thought.

 

http://www.hornbyguide.com/item_details.asp?itemid=181

 

 

 

Jason

 

Or for that matter, the O gauge Hornby Nestles tanker!

 

 

Brian

Edited July 30, 2018 by brianusa

[The Fatadder]

Does anyone have more info as to how these were converted to 3 axle chassis.  Was it a simple case of an additional plate being welded / riveted in place between the existing ones (along with adding the additional axle boxes and springs etc) or was it more of a complete new underframe build? 
 

I really like the look of these early tanks with their short overhangs.  All a little bit different to the later builds.  So I was looking at the potential of adding the extra w iron etc to a Peco tank to modernise...

[Nearholmer]

I thought that the tanks were mounted on new 6W under frames, but that is only an "I thought", not a definitive statement.

 

And, since Brian snuck a nice tinplate Hornby one in, here are a modern tinplate 0 replica of the 1930s Bassett Lowke model and real thing, which is more than I can afford. Lovely, eh?

 

 

Edited June 6, 2020 by Nearholmer

[Wickham Green too]

The Southern certainly built new six-wheeled chassis for theirs ( though there probably wasn't much left that was actually 'theirs' as the tanks themselves belonged to the dairies ) ......... the redundant four-wheel chassis ended up under 20T coal wagons - presumably heavily rebuilt - though photos are unknown.

[Karhedron]

Yup, pretty sure that the rebuilds simply mounted the existing tanks on a new chassis. The 6-wheeled chassis had a much longer wheelbase than the 4-wheelers so it certainly wasn't a case of just adding an extra axle.