Brian Kirby Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 (edited) I couldn't see a thread covering these, apart from Andy Y's announcement, so here goes. Whilst we've been distracted by the new Mk2Fs, these Mk1 carflats have sneaked in under the radar. I bought one each of the 1970s/80s blue solebar versions, the third option is bauxite brown/maroon with cascaded upgrade bogies, covering the later period. Bachmann 38-901 is vacuum-braked only in blue without the Motorail slogan fitted, 38-902 is dual-braked and carries the slogan, although a pair of slogan boards are included in the 38-901 option goodies bag anyway, giving further choice. Both blue versions carry TOPS codes, and they are numbered consecutively(!). Now nobody likes banana-shaped carriages, keeping a long open wagon nice and flat without any twist is always a challenge, but these Bachmann carflats are commendably straight (at least my ones are). Buying these was a rather guilty purchase for me, because for years I intended to make up my own from various scrap Mk1s, but never got around to it, yet these new ones are too good to ignore. Has anyone bought the later brown one yet, it would be nice to hear a report on that? Cheers, Brian. Edited September 29, 2018 by Brian Kirby 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 38-900 https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brmotorail/ecd24bd2 38-901 https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brmotorail/e19b60134 38-902 https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brmotorail/e23aa8c1 PAul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 I couldn't see a thread covering these, apart from Andy Y's announcement, so here goes. Whilst we've been distracted by the new Mk2Fs, these Mk1 carflats have sneaked in under the radar. I bought one each of the 1970s/80s blue solebar versions, the third option is black with cascaded upgrade bogies, covering the later period. Bachmann 38-901 is vacuum-braked only in blue without the Motorail slogan fitted, 38-902 is dual-braked and carries the slogan, although a pair of slogan boards are included in the 38-901 option goodies bag anyway, giving further choice. Both blue versions carry TOPS codes, and they are numbered consecutively(!). Now nobody likes banana-shaped carriages, keeping a long open wagon nice and flat without any twist is always challenge, but these Bachmann carflats are commendably straight (at least my ones are). Buying these was a rather guilty purchase for me, because for years I intended to make up my own from various scrap Mk1s, but never got around to it, yet these new ones are too good to ignore. Has anyone bought the later black one yet, it would be nice to hear a report on that? Cheers, Brian. Pity there's not an original liveried one marked CARFLAT instead of the TOPS code. Regards, John Isherwood. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rembrow Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 I received two maroon versions about 4 weeks ago and replaced the B4 bogies with Br1 types. I've got 2xblue motorail in the post and will put one of the B4 sets on one of these. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILLIAM Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Roughly when did the freight (bauxite) versions cease being used by BR for revenue earning traffic? Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37501 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Can anyone tell me if the cars were anchored down with chains or cargo straps please? If they were just secured with the yellow chocks, were these fixed onto the wagon deck by any means or just wedged under the car wheels. I saw these wagons many times but have no photographs looking down from above. Many thanks John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted October 1, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 1, 2018 Can anyone tell me if the cars were anchored down with chains or cargo straps please? If they were just secured with the yellow chocks, were these fixed onto the wagon deck by any means or just wedged under the car wheels. I saw these wagons many times but have no photographs looking down from above. Many thanks John IIRC, on Motorails at least the yellow chocks were nailed in place to keep the cars from moving. I don't think there was anything else in addition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaneofFife Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) As Bauxite was mentioned, I have never known quite how to pronounce that lovely word. Is it like "Bork site" (how I have always said it) or maybe its "Bow Site" ? anybody? Edited October 1, 2018 by ThaneofFife Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Steven B Posted October 1, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 1, 2018 Are you British or American?https://dictionary.cambridge.org/pronunciation/english/bauxite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Bauxite named after a village in France, Les Baux-de-Provence. So maybe the "Bow" pronunciation isn't strictly wrong. I wonder if there's a canal there, with locks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
owentherail Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Did the Bachmann version on car flat run I same train as the Oxford rail version, (as different lengths) in reality I mean! Not on a layout ;-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 As Bauxite was mentioned, I have never known quite how to pronounce that lovely word. Is it like "Bork site" (how I have always said it) or maybe its "Bow Site" ? anybody? No need, it is Freight stock red. The description used by BR, for lots of different colours down the years Although having a bauxite base in the early years (I suspect more recently completely organic paint) other colours were added to it. Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted October 1, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 1, 2018 Pity there's not an original liveried one marked CARFLAT instead of the TOPS code. Regards, John Isherwood. Any carflats on your list John? Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted October 1, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) Can anyone tell me if the cars were anchored down with chains or cargo straps please? If they were just secured with the yellow chocks, were these fixed onto the wagon deck by any means or just wedged under the car wheels. I saw these wagons many times but have no photographs looking down from above. Many thanks John Have a watch of this: https://youtu.be/exx_pGQIWe0 Roy Edited October 1, 2018 by Roy Langridge 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37501 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Thanks for the information. The film clip shows 6 chocks per car. Just wedged against the tyres. Will need to fit 4 as there are 16 supplied. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 I might make the chocs myself using yellow blue tack. It will stick the cars into place as well. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted October 2, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 2, 2018 Bauxite named after a village in France, Les Baux-de-Provence. So maybe the "Bow" pronunciation isn't strictly wrong. I wonder if there's a canal there, with locks. What if it was faux bauxite? Mike. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaneofFife Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 What if it was faux bauxite? Mike. fo bo site 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 (edited) The motor rail version is out and I received mine today. Here it is on a modern(ish) military train, with its Oxfordrail cousin (shorter with cream deck instead of brown), a couple of Hattons Warwells and a couple of appropriate other wagons seen on these kind of trains. Vehicles are Oxford Diecast (and spread across a good few modern eras). Of the two car flats (note they are not based on the same prototype), the Bachmann one is mostly Diecast and more weighty of the pair. Both come with yellow chocs and bits bag (not fitted here). The pair work well as can be seen below. Edited October 8, 2018 by JSpencer 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 I have had people asking whether or not these new carflats are better than the old Hornby one..... I believe pictures can say things better than words so here we are with some 80s items running with the all new carflats representing that era. Before anyone asks, the new versions do not have ramps that can be folded down flat, so no they are not compatible with the old Hornby's car ramp loading system. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted October 9, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 9, 2018 I am astounded that people are asking if they are better than the ye-ancient Hornby relic!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest teacupteacup Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 I am astounded that people are asking if they are better than the ye-ancient Hornby relic!! If people have been asking this, their models should be removed from them and then minced! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 I am astounded that people are asking if they are better than the ye-ancient Hornby relic!! Yes that was a blatant lie on my part. Astoundingly people pay a fortune for the articulated car carrier in the pic (Hornby R666 of all numbers). One is on ebay right now for £111! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Astoundingly people pay a fortune for the articulated car carrier in the pic (Hornby R666 of all numbers). One is on ebay right now for £111! Probably because none of the usual suspects has done an proper 4mm. scale RTR CARTIC-4. Both Hornby and Keyser did a CARTIC-2 (!); the latter as a plastic kit, primarily for a promotional model of a Channel Tunnel concept WAY before there was any realistic chance of such a project succeeding. Modellers, including me, regularly try and cut-and-shut the former, and occasionally the latter, into passable representations of a true CARTIC-4 - but it's not as straightforward as it looks! (Ask me how I know - I still have both projects started but unfinished). There has also been at least one etched kit - but they are rare as hen's teeth nowadays. SOMEONE will pick up the gauntlet - perhaps 3D printing is the way forward ?!? Regards, John Isherwood. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted October 10, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 10, 2018 If people have been asking this, their models should be removed from them and then minced! Isn't mincing miscreant modellers messy?, not to mention illegal? Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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