Sentinel Shunter in Australia

[Markeg]

While staying in Koondrook Victoria on the Murray River, I found this little outdoor Museum.

It is called a Tramway and ran from Kerang to Koondrook, aproxiamtely 23km.

 

It is a Sentenil Shunter with 2 wagons and a 6 wheel brake van, similar to a North Eastern Birdcage Bake Van.

 

Mark

 

[DougN]

Mark, was it a Zvan from Victorian railways?

[Markeg]

Thanks Doug, Wasn't sure if it was a Z or ZL.

Mark

[Marshall5]

There's something not quite right about the Sentinel's underframe.  There don't appear to be any sprockets, for the chain drive, on the axles and no chain tensioners between the frame and axleboxes.  In fact the whole underframe looks distinctly unlike anything that came out of Shrewsbury.  Could the body have been placed on a converted wagon underframe as a cosmetic restoration?  Just wondering......

Ray.

[EddieB]

It's a replica of a locomotive that was withdrawn in 1941 and scrapped in 1952.

 

http://www.australiansteam.com/Koondrook.htm

[Armchair Modeller]

Here's a photo of the original at https://backontrack.org/images/vr_misc/locos2/PICT0029.JPG

 

[Armchair Modeller]

Here's a photo of the loco I found on the Web some time ago - presumably taken at the Sentinel Works before delivery to Australia. Apologies, but I cannot remember the source.

 

 

It was 5ft 3in gauge.

[2mmMark]

There's something not quite right about the Sentinel's underframe.  There don't appear to be any sprockets, for the chain drive, on the axles and no chain tensioners between the frame and axleboxes.  In fact the whole underframe looks distinctly unlike anything that came out of Shrewsbury.  Could the body have been placed on a converted wagon underframe as a cosmetic restoration?  Just wondering......

Ray.

 

Can you get a 5ft 3ins gauge Tenshodo SPUD?

 

 

Mark

[Orion]

Can you get a 5ft 3ins gauge Tenshodo SPUD?

 

 

Mark

It's Black Beetles in Australia, I think

[009 micro modeller]

Presumably it is a non-working replica on a wagon chassis then. Or is it theoretically possible to finish it to working condition? I think a similar kind of restoration is planned for the remains of the Sentinel on Alderney but can’t remember the details from where I read this.

[Gordon A]

Presumably it is a non-working replica on a wagon chassis then. Or is it theoretically possible to finish it to working condition? I think a similar kind of restoration is planned for the remains of the Sentinel on Alderney but can’t remember the details from where I read this.

 

Anything is possible with enough money.

There are a number of steam Sentinels in the UK that have been restored to working order.

 

Gordon A

[hartleymartin]

It is a non-working replica on a wagon underframe.

 

Also appears that the water tank capacity was increased - a common feature of Australian locomotives due to water supply issues.

[H16LSWR]

In 1985 I had correspondence with Don Potts, a member of the Australian Railway Historical Society, regarding this replica. Don stated it was constructed in 1984 on the frame of a former sheep wagon, suitably shortened. The body was fabricated from plans obtained in Australia.  The original locomotive (Sentinel 7566) was supplied new in 1926 and withdrawn in 1941 as it needed a new boiler. Due to the activities of the Japanese Sentinel were unable to supply this and it remained out of use until sold for scrap in 1952. Don also said the railway closed in 1978.

 

H16LSWR