rob D2 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 I do fully agree with you over Bachmann just be other new livery of construction of class 47 that why I am still awaiting to get that Bachmann class 47 construction livery based Scotland region Bachmann has released 47359 metals 47209 Railfreight distribution 47365 European Railfreight distribution 47306 European Railfreight distribution 47190 petroleum That quote was 2009. It doesn’t seem the importers of Vi have any interest anymore Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEARJAMMER Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Gents (and ladies if there are any) i have just trawled through all 34 pages in this thread, i have the bag of detailing parts for the 47, included as you all know are 8 items, all the same that appear to go on the bogies, i cant though for the life of me work out how or where, I thought I was going to get the answer in the first couple of pages but no.... unless ive missed it..... so.... does anyone have a definitive answer, ideally with photos as to how the detailing bits fit to the corners of the bogies? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted May 27, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 27, 2018 Gents (and ladies if there are any) i have just trawled through all 34 pages in this thread, i have the bag of detailing parts for the 47, included as you all know are 8 items, all the same that appear to go on the bogies, i cant though for the life of me work out how or where, I thought I was going to get the answer in the first couple of pages but no.... unless ive missed it..... so.... does anyone have a definitive answer, ideally with photos as to how the detailing bits fit to the corners of the bogies? Hi there What you have there are the brake actuating arms. They are not identical but are handed - left and right They sit on top of the bogie frames at each corner so that the thinner rod aligns with a slot in the top side of the frame and with the thicker arm pointing across the front/back of the bogie Make sure they are pushed fully home or they foul on the body and cause derailments Hope that helps if not come back and will take a photo for you If you google class 47 bogie there are some pictures but not entirely clear Cheers Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted May 27, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 27, 2018 Just found this one http://www.class47.co.uk/c47_zoom_v3.php?img=1548020069000 You can see the part in question on the top corner of the bogie Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Hat Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 (edited) Another one through the paintshop... (Sorry if photo is a bit dark!) Edited September 17, 2018 by The Black Hat 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stock_2007 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 (edited) I was just about to buy Colas 47727 when I was told it had been sold and was now in Caledonian sleeper livery! I find it hard to keep up at times Edited September 17, 2018 by stock_2007 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
47423 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 I was just about to buy Colas 47727 when I was told it had been sold and was now in Caledonian sleeper livery! I find it hard to keep up at times Don`t hold your breath on it ever working again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinC37LG Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 (edited) The Guys were busy on it yesterday Jon, so please don't hold your breath Don`t hold your breath on it ever working again. Edited September 18, 2018 by martinC37LG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
47423 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 The Guys were busy on it yesterday Jon, so please don't hold your breath I understand the working part was removing items. I hope i am wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium SHerr Posted September 22, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 22, 2018 A bit of help please - one of my Bachmann 47s (47612 IC Livery if it matters) some time ago developed a horrible grinding/catching sound when cornering in one direction. I found some info that suggested the cardon shaft may be loose but never got round to sorting. I’ve recently unscrewed the bogies and after much fiddling and swearing got the shafts out and back in. Put it back together and ran perfectly once in each direction round some long curves. Second run the noise has returned and now happens on the straight as well! Are there any known fixes? The shaft seemed ok ie not bent, chewed end or anything. Many Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 Is it properly engaged in the slots each end of the motor ? Do you have such thing a a wheel cleaner or a way of running one bogie at a time ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 A bit of help please - one of my Bachmann 47s (47612 IC Livery if it matters) some time ago developed a horrible grinding/catching sound when cornering in one direction. I found some info that suggested the cardon shaft may be loose but never got round to sorting. I’ve recently unscrewed the bogies and after much fiddling and swearing got the shafts out and back in. Put it back together and ran perfectly once in each direction round some long curves. Second run the noise has returned and now happens on the straight as well! Are there any known fixes? The shaft seemed ok ie not bent, chewed end or anything. Many Thanks. Probably the oil ran dry in the bearings at the top of gear towers where the shafts sit in them. My 47 has not done this yet but it dit happen on the Hornby 31, 50 and 56. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonC Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 It should fit on the 21 pin one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 It should fit on the 21 pin one i would agree. I have found that quite a few of my Bach 47s are a real wrestle to get the bodies back on after fitting DCC chips - seems to be that something wants to foul each end and lead to the body sitting high. In every case I have managed to get the body back on eventually but never easy - may be intrusion of the wire handrails against the chassis - have never worked out what the issue is suffice to say that force and inserting the screws seems to pull it down eventually. Is this maybe the issue you are having? M Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 i would agree. I have found that quite a few of my Bach 47s are a real wrestle to get the bodies back on after fitting DCC chips - seems to be that something wants to foul each end and lead to the body sitting high. In every case I have managed to get the body back on eventually but never easy - may be intrusion of the wire handrails against the chassis - have never worked out what the issue is suffice to say that force and inserting the screws seems to pull it down eventually. Is this maybe the issue you are having? M I think it's caused by the holes at the bottom of the door window glazing that should clip over the "pips" that stick out of the chassis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted November 1, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 1, 2018 Agreed! First thing we do is cut those off - they are superfluous and a right pain! Phil 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold pheaton Posted November 1, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 1, 2018 Yeah and when you ease them out into the clips the glue gives up and the windows pop out!!!! i agree fully cut em off....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractor_37260 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Thanks everyone who responded - I'll cut the pips off the inside of the body tonight and see if it fits. I had these issues with my own 47's - on some the small recesses below the cab window glazing broke off. I decided to remove all the cab door windows and cut the retaining slot parts off. I then glued suitably sized small strips of plasticard inside the bodyshell for the chassis lugs to locate on - no more cab door glazing issues.............. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Same scenario, at least you only have to blow on the windows for them to fall out ! Job done Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classsix T Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 (edited) So with the announcement of 47435, I'm hoping there are no Cl.57 tooling left overs and we might get a banger blue Spoon suitable for a plethora of renumbering projects: https://www.hattons.co.uk/StockDetail.aspx?SID=431949 I like the fact it's dual heat fitted, easier to remove than add, with the full tank/battery box gear between the bogies. Might be in for half a dozen of these, at the right price, finally retire those Lima jobs! C6T. Edited January 15, 2019 by Classsix T Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted January 15, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 15, 2019 So with the announcement of 47435, I'm hoping there are no Cl.57 tooling left overs and we might get a banger blue Spoon suitable for a plethora of renumbering projects: https://www.hattons.co.uk/StockDetail.aspx?SID=431949 I like the fact it's dual heat fitted, easier to remove than add, with the full tank/battery box gear between the bogies. Might be in for half a dozen of these, at the right price, finally retire those Lima jobs! C6T. So its a serck fitted loco with a spanner boiler in blue - the same as the already released 47035, except that it may have dominos rather than plated headcode box - but that was easy to convert to a headcode/domino loco with a bit of drilling and cutting.... A Stone Vapour, Clayton or blanked off boiler port would have been greater variety ..... we haven't seen ether of the latter two in an unrefurbished loco IIRC. Better get some more boiler port etches in! Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM47079 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 I must admit a stone vapour boiler would have been handy. Who does the etches for these? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted January 15, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 15, 2019 I must admit a stone vapour boiler would have been handy. Who does the etches for these? Shawplan do blanking plates A1 models do the ports - there were some etches on Ebay but none there at the moment.... Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classsix T Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 (edited) I must admit Phil, I posted that (heavily edited) missive with some trepidation, knowing how knowledgeable on all matters Spoon shaped the esteemed regular contributors, such as yourself, on this thread are. My only Bachmann 47 purchased to date has been 47474 Sir Rowland Hill which is a favoured prototype loco and ideal candidate for my 1996-9 modelling period. I do though also era dabble with May 1980, with a specific bent towards ex GN & GE traction and stock. Finding the Barwell Duff the most likeable of the RTR options, you'll understand that from a my relative layman's point of view, reading of consistent errors with tooling on a ostensibly similar but fundamentally complex model/prototype subject led me to stay with my absolutely incorrect but incredibly cheap Lima stud. The release of 47435 does seem to fulfil my desire for something nearer to what I would like, multiple times. As such, I'd appreciate your input via this topic Phil on my future renumbering projects, and perhaps I can reciprocally learn you on Cl.56 (of which I probably know too much to be healthy). C6T. Edited January 15, 2019 by Classsix T 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classsix T Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 (edited) One of the locomotives I'm looking to do is 47085xb SF Mammoth, having looked at 47035, I'd rather the headcode was an accurate rendition of a domino than whatever thats supposed to be! C6T. Edited January 16, 2019 by Classsix T Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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