stadman Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 Just purchased a BR blue version. Anyone removed the body to fit a chip? I've tried the cards in the corners as per instructions but still seems solid, any ideas? 8 pin decoder, correct? thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 Just purchased a BR blue version. Anyone removed the body to fit a chip? I've tried the cards in the corners as per instructions but still seems solid, any ideas? 8 pin decoder, correct? thanks http://www.bromsgrovemodels.co.uk/helcl28dccinstr.htm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stadman Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 http://www.bromsgrovemodels.co.uk/helcl28dccinstr.htm thanks, am looking now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesfeldian Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 (edited) I'm just re-starting my modelling interest after a long hiatus, mainly due to the excellent RTR models now coming out with sound and lighting. My interest is Derbyshire and will be modelling the peak line Ambergate-Millers Dale and would welcome updates on the Heljan Co-Bo as only an example with original wraparound windows would 'fit' so was wondering if there are plans for any after market detailing packs or body shells. As an aside, what do people think of the shade of green used on this and other early diesel types ? The colour slides I have seen suggest the hue of the early diesel green was more olive than brunswick. Thoughts? Edited September 11, 2013 by Holmesfeldian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Modeller Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Even if there were no deterioration over time, colour reproduction on film is not reliable. Each make had its pros and cons, not to mention the quality of the light when the image was taken. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stadman Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 http://www.bromsgrovemodels.co.uk/helcl28dccinstr.htm Job done, thanks BR(S) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbeagleowner Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Seems as though there are some class 28 bargains to be had at hattons at the moment... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeParkin Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Seems as though there are some class 28 bargains to be had at hattons at the moment... 'Bargain' being a relative term - current price is nearer what I hoped would have been the original RRP! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brittannia Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Price reductions for Heljan Locos after 9/12 months seems to be the normal thing ever since the launch of the Westerns, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted December 2, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 2, 2013 Yes I see the bargains and I quite fancy one. Only trouble is L & Y tank arrived last week and another loco shaped box will cause mutiny in the ranks. So will hold off in the hope that prices come down and conditions at home ease! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrB Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 'Bargain' being a relative term - current price is nearer what I hoped would have been the original RRP! Yep, £84 I paid, waited till they were more affordable/value for money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny Emily Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 The price reductions could be counter-productive for future models though. I paid £125 for my class 28 some time ago. The result of the current discounting is that I have decided to not buy any Heljan locos at full price and will star waiting for the heavy discounting. I doubt that I will be alone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black and decker boy Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 (edited) The price reductions could be counter-productive for future models though. I paid £125 for my class 28 some time ago. The result of the current discounting is that I have decided to not buy any Heljan locos at full price and will star waiting for the heavy discounting. I doubt that I will be alone.The co-bo are exclusive to hattons so their selling price will always be higher initially. Clearly they have now decided to try and sell through some or all remaining stock at what would have been their selling price on a mainstream model. This is No doubt to prepare for the impending Garratt models. A second run ofCo-bo is perhaps very unlikely in the near future. As for other mainstream Heljan models, I don't think that they get discounted any more than Hornby or Bachmann and some models hold their value very well as they sell Quickly - the class 27s are rarely discounted. Bachamm type 2s and class 37s are often in Hattons bargain bin at a fraction of their RRP. It does not stop Me buying new models as you never know what will sell out and what will end up on discount. Edited December 7, 2013 by black and decker boy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Downendian Posted December 7, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 7, 2013 Finally took the bait D5705 GSYP ordered today, £89. She languished at the back of Bristol Bath road in 1976, and was lucky to survive, some local yobs setting fire to her. Decoder fitting - care needed my D5701 body was a very tight fit. Strong sustained pull with bits of plasticard/old credit cards inserted as suggested and a bit of wiggling. Pop, and the "seal broke" and body and chassis separated rapidly. It is a very fine model runs a treat as do all Heljan diesels. Neil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friar Tuck Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 The price reductions could be counter-productive for future models though. I paid £125 for my class 28 some time ago. The result of the current discounting is that I have decided to not buy any Heljan locos at full price and will star waiting for the heavy discounting. I doubt that I will be alone. The difference in price is a significant factor, but the pleasure of enjoying the use of the model from its initial release is something I would miss - not to mention the ulcers I might get worrying about if the loco would ever be discounted and whether the one I wanted in a particular livery would still be available. Peace of mind has its price! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 The price reductions could be counter-productive for future models though. I paid £125 for my class 28 some time ago. The result of the current discounting is that I have decided to not buy any Heljan locos at full price and will star waiting for the heavy discounting. I doubt that I will be alone. For those who are willing to wait, there is clearly a trend for eventual discounting. However, although I'm certainly not a Veruca Salt type, there are some items (perfect for my layout/likely to sell out/strong element of nostalgia) that I will buy straight away, even knowing they will eventually be discounted. Bachmann's maximum discount policy for the first 8 weeks after release was designed to catch people like me and I think there are a lot of us in the hobby! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 good colour shot of green full yellow end D5707 http://www.flickr.com/photos/95062750@N04/11487063096/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/95062750@N04/11486955274/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted December 22, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 22, 2013 (edited) good colour shot of green full yellow end D5707 http://www.flickr.com/photos/95062750@N04/11487063096/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/95062750@N04/11486955274/ Slightly OT but interesting to see how different the well weathered and less weathered 47's look in that first pic. Edited December 22, 2013 by Metr0Land 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black and decker boy Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 (edited) For those who are willing to wait, there is clearly a trend for eventual discounting. However, although I'm certainly not a Veruca Salt type, there are some items (perfect for my layout/likely to sell out/strong element of nostalgia) that I will buy straight away, even knowing they will eventually be discounted. Bachmann's maximum discount policy for the first 8 weeks after release was designed to catch people like me and I think there are a lot of us in the hobby!The problem (or not) is you never know what will make it as far as the discount bin and what will be long sold out. For purely nice to have purchases,I am happy to wait and take the risk. For essentials, I buy on preorder. Bulk buys (wagons etc) tend to be on discount. I am now the owner of a second co-bo. One full price, 1 discount. Happy days indeed. Edited December 22, 2013 by black and decker boy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsp3970 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I just ordered one of these, it will be interesting to put it alongside the old Horny Dublo version I have, once I get that out of storage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leander Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I just ordered one of these, it will be interesting to put it alongside the old Horny Dublo version I have, once I get that out of storage. You'll probably want to put it away again, sharpish! I had an H-D Co-Bo at one time and now have a Heljan model, to be honest there's absolutely no comparison. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsp3970 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 You'll probably want to put it away again, sharpish! I had an H-D Co-Bo at one time and now have a Heljan model, to be honest there's absolutely no comparison. Its that bad is it? I know the HD version wont run on my layout, tried several years ago on a different one and its flanges were too large so it rode over the sleepers. Never owned an Heljan model before, so should be interesting to see how they compare to other manufacturers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 My HD example was built by me from spare parts, but is basically as supplied by HD. Though the body was stripped to bare metal before brush painting, and Flushglaze added. Looks good actually. However I've just got a D5700 for £84 (!) from Hattons, so will be looking to sell it on. Stewart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigherb Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Its that bad is it? Yes. Although my three HD still run very well fifty years on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 The HD model could be improved, though having a metal body it took a bit of work. Here's mine, detailed, weathered and with Gibson wheels. The second photo shows it with an out if the box Heljan model. The HD model draws quite a current by modern standards. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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