Poor Old Bruce Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 'Ramsay's British Model Trains Catalogue' compiled by Pat Hammond, from the publishers of British Railway Modelling lists all known 4mm model raiway locomotives and rolling stock by 28 makers from 'Airfix' to 'Wrenn' as well as other makers in N to 0 gauges. The 6th edition of 2008 lists five variants of the L&Y Pugs from Dapol and ten from Hornby. If you Google 'MREmag' you will find that Pat is currently proof-reading the latest edition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
C2CFenchurchStreet Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Would anyone know the number of the pug allocated to Bow (London). And the years of allocation? Many thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 There were different versions of smokebox door, the Liverpool ones differed to the ones modelled by Dapol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poor Old Bruce Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Would anyone know the number of the pug allocated to Bow (London). And the years of allocation? 'The Xpress Locomotive Register' doesnt show any ex L&Y Pug in the London area between 1950 and 1960. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
C2CFenchurchStreet Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 I think it was referring to LMS period? But not sure. Any help appreciated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted March 13, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 13, 2016 According to Wikipedia, Bow depot existed from c.1850 until 1882, when it was demolished and replaced by Devons Road. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall5 Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 There were different versions of smokebox door, the Liverpool ones differed to the ones modelled by Dapol. Was there? I've only ever seen one type on the real things. My feeling is that the Dapol (ex Airfix/Kitmaster) kit wrongly used a more 'modern' shaped door. Unfortunately this mistake was repeated on the 7mm scale Tower Brass one - I've still to pluck up the courage to unsolder the smokebox door and substitute a correctly shaped Springside one on mine. Ray. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 The Airfix kit also used standard buffers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMS2968 Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 The Airfix kit also used standard buffers. Which is what the first ones were built with, although they didn't retain them for long, and later batches had dumb buffers from new. None had standard buffers in BR days, despite that the Airfix kit had the post 1956 BR crest transfers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 The Airfix kit also used standard buffers. Though, to be fair to Airfix (or was it Kitmaster?), so did at least one of the real ones: http://www.lyrtrust.org.uk/images/memrobilia/Pug%201153%20b.jpg Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norton961 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Most of the locos sold into industrial use did not have the cover over the slide bar and cross head. Changes the kook of the loco. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killian keane Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Were these not referred to as the B7 class at one point? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMS2968 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 I haven't heard of that one. The L&YR knew them as the 1153 Class until 1920, when they became Class 21 under George Hughes' system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Were these not referred to as the B7 class at one point? I've definitely seen that classification used before somewhere. No idea where though. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killian keane Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 I've definitely seen that classification used before somewhere. No idea where though. Jason In the observers book of railway locomotives of Britain (published 1958) they are referred to as the L&Y B7 class, incidentally, the photo they include shows 51244 with a shunters pole between its buffers like a school master with a cane! Going to put some order into the wagons no doubt! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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