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Four versions in the initial release according to Kernow's newsletter and website

http://www.kernowmod...ljan_2011_Range

Not being an expert in these, but I think there were two types and these presumably are all of the same body style?

Some of the LMR vehicles did not have gangways but the running numbers quoted in the Kernow ad are all for gangwayed vehicles. Incidentally the Gloucester RC&W /Class 128 cars had Albion engines (with ruddy heavy cylinder heads - having had to move several of them when 'helping' with a reorganisation of the stores at Southall depot many years ago).

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Some of the LMR vehicles did not have gangways but the running numbers quoted in the Kernow ad are all for gangwayed vehicles. Incidentally the Gloucester RC&W /Class 128 cars had Albion engines (with ruddy heavy cylinder heads - having had to move several of them when 'helping' with a reorganisation of the stores at Southall depot many years ago).

That's why the model is so heavy!

The non-gangwayed versions will be produced later.

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Maybe I've got this wrong, but wasn't one meant to be coming out in Royal Mail Red? Or was that one of the non-gangwayed versions?

I think that some had all had the gangways removed or plated over by the time they received RM Red. I have found at least one picture of one in red with gangways still in place.

 

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=class+128+dmu&um=1&hl=en&sa=N&biw=1366&bih=671&tbm=isch&tbnid=VN63MrTo60u9TM:&imgrefurl=http://www.flickr.com/photos/32978671%40N08/3170606062/&docid=dwN8LWFHZ8AMqM&imgurl=http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3260/3170606062_aed6987c17_z.jpg&w=640&h=434&ei=odAzT5WRLcjIsgae5vC1DA&zoom=1

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Hi All

 

I don't know if this has been asked / answered before.. but does anyone know what liveries these will be released in?

I'm assuming Green and all over Rail Blue.. but did they ever carry Blue/Grey or any of the sector liveries?

 

Thanks in advance!

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Maybe I've got this wrong, but wasn't one meant to be coming out in Royal Mail Red? Or was that one of the non-gangwayed versions?

I think that some had all had the gangways removed or plated over by the time they received RM Red. I have found at least one picture of one in red with gangways still in place.

 

http://www.google.co...ae5vC1DA&zoom=1

 

 

I believe the cars that were built without gangways - thus, the ones with the centre window, were the first to be scrapped. The later cars built with gangways were the ones that survived to receive newer liveries.

 

Having said that, these cars received several subtle changes with the removal of the "split" headcode boxes, and their replacement by standard DMU msrker lights, then removal of some gangways, and rearrangement of exhaust pipes. Also note the handrails festooned over then ends of these cars.

 

http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/dieselparcelvan/h1868E205#h1868e205

 

BFYE, still with split headcodes but plated over. Note the sandboxes on the bogie

 

http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/dieselparcelvan/h1868E205#h1d10a185

 

BFYE but with headcode boxes removed and standard DMU marker lights, although rudimentary body panelling. No sandboxes on this.

 

http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/dieselparcelvan/h1868E205#h176585be

 

This is a good one - what has happened to the exhaust pipe on this end ?

 

http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/dieselparcelvan/h1868E205#h197ec68a

 

As built with exhaust pipes on opposite end, and with sandboxes

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Never blue/grey AFAIK. They remained allover blue until sector days when the survivors gained red livery.

Some were also painted in "Red Star" livery prior to PO Red. This was blue (possibly a lighter shade than rail blue) with a red stripe at waist height. Examples of both ex-MR and ex-WR units received this livery but I think only after the latter had their gangways removed.

 

http://flickriver.co...N02/3621851074/

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Hi All

I don't know if this has been asked / answered before.. but does anyone know what liveries these will be released in?

 

Hattons is showing all livery variants for the gangwayed variants (Heljan 8900 - 8903): http://www.ehattons.com/stocklist/27/1/45/0/Heljan_UK_OO_Gauge_1_76th_Scale_Diesel_Multiple_Units_DMU_/prodlist.aspx

 

Felix

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Just recieved an email from hattons -

 

Heljan UK 8903 Class 128 DPU M55994 in rail blue with full yellow ends. £94.00

 

Our latest information from the supplier suggests this item will arrive with us on or after Monday 2nd July 2012

 

Whilst we are hopeful this information is accurate, manufacturer lead times are frequently prone to be delayed. This information is to be used as a guide only.

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Some were also painted in "Red Star" livery prior to PO Red. This was blue (possibly a lighter shade than rail blue) with a red stripe at waist height. Examples of both ex-MR and ex-WR units received this livery but I think only after the latter had their gangways removed.

 

http://flickriver.co...N02/3621851074/

 

W55991/2 the two London area vehicles were plain rail blue with full yellow ends until they became PO red. One of these two was an early repaint into rail blue with a red buffer beam and yellow gangways just like the green livery. I posted a pic on the old RMweb.

They were not around for long in the PO red but looked great! Almost immediately, it seemed, converted Derby two-car DMUs (114s?) were drafted in to replace them and then all the PO stock was sent north (to Inverness, I believe, and given the chop before any preservation interests could be expressed. Word was that the POst Office didn't want to deal with asbestos issues. Several preserved railways wanted them as self-propelled mobile tool vans, workshops.

I think it was only the LMR non-gangwayed cars that got Red Star, blue with a red stripe.

CHRIS LEIGH

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One month past an "expected" date is nothing. Six months might be regarded as more the norm with 12 - 18 months by no means out of the question. There are so many variables, unknowns and potential problems along the way not least in cases where there are no prototypes which could be laser-scanned.

 

That said I am also taking a keen interest even though the MPVs never ran in my area of interest. Neither did the SR MLVs but I have one of those in the mail already ;)

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Things are very quiet in relation to this model, has anyone seen CAD or preproduction samples? It was due last month but no sign of it. I'm eagerly waiting for this, with fingers crossed that Heljan actually get this one right! Got a terrible feeling that I might be disappointed though!

 

Im pretty sure there was a basic bodyshell moulding on Heljan's stand at Model Rail Scotland this year. Could be wrong though.

 

Im looking forward to it myself, do hope they get it right.

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