RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted November 5, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 5, 2011 Four versions in the initial release according to Kernow's newsletter and website http://www.kernowmod...ljan_2011_Range Not being an expert in these, but I think there were two types and these presumably are all of the same body style? Some of the LMR vehicles did not have gangways but the running numbers quoted in the Kernow ad are all for gangwayed vehicles. Incidentally the Gloucester RC&W /Class 128 cars had Albion engines (with ruddy heavy cylinder heads - having had to move several of them when 'helping' with a reorganisation of the stores at Southall depot many years ago). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrushVeteran Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Some of the LMR vehicles did not have gangways but the running numbers quoted in the Kernow ad are all for gangwayed vehicles. Incidentally the Gloucester RC&W /Class 128 cars had Albion engines (with ruddy heavy cylinder heads - having had to move several of them when 'helping' with a reorganisation of the stores at Southall depot many years ago). That's why the model is so heavy! The non-gangwayed versions will be produced later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Maybe I've got this wrong, but wasn't one meant to be coming out in Royal Mail Red? Or was that one of the non-gangwayed versions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Maybe I've got this wrong, but wasn't one meant to be coming out in Royal Mail Red? Or was that one of the non-gangwayed versions? I think that some had all had the gangways removed or plated over by the time they received RM Red. I have found at least one picture of one in red with gangways still in place. http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=class+128+dmu&um=1&hl=en&sa=N&biw=1366&bih=671&tbm=isch&tbnid=VN63MrTo60u9TM:&imgrefurl=http://www.flickr.com/photos/32978671%40N08/3170606062/&docid=dwN8LWFHZ8AMqM&imgurl=http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3260/3170606062_aed6987c17_z.jpg&w=640&h=434&ei=odAzT5WRLcjIsgae5vC1DA&zoom=1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
br-nse-fan Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Hi All I don't know if this has been asked / answered before.. but does anyone know what liveries these will be released in? I'm assuming Green and all over Rail Blue.. but did they ever carry Blue/Grey or any of the sector liveries? Thanks in advance! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
(The) Youth Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Green,Blue,Red Star and royal mail red is all I know of I'm not sure which Heljan are bringing out though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Maybe I've got this wrong, but wasn't one meant to be coming out in Royal Mail Red? Or was that one of the non-gangwayed versions? I think that some had all had the gangways removed or plated over by the time they received RM Red. I have found at least one picture of one in red with gangways still in place. http://www.google.co...ae5vC1DA&zoom=1 I believe the cars that were built without gangways - thus, the ones with the centre window, were the first to be scrapped. The later cars built with gangways were the ones that survived to receive newer liveries. Having said that, these cars received several subtle changes with the removal of the "split" headcode boxes, and their replacement by standard DMU msrker lights, then removal of some gangways, and rearrangement of exhaust pipes. Also note the handrails festooned over then ends of these cars. http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/dieselparcelvan/h1868E205#h1868e205 BFYE, still with split headcodes but plated over. Note the sandboxes on the bogie http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/dieselparcelvan/h1868E205#h1d10a185 BFYE but with headcode boxes removed and standard DMU marker lights, although rudimentary body panelling. No sandboxes on this. http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/dieselparcelvan/h1868E205#h176585be This is a good one - what has happened to the exhaust pipe on this end ? http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/dieselparcelvan/h1868E205#h197ec68a As built with exhaust pipes on opposite end, and with sandboxes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted February 10, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 10, 2012 but did they ever carry Blue/Grey or any of the sector liveries? Never blue/grey AFAIK. They remained allover blue until sector days when the survivors gained red livery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Never blue/grey AFAIK. They remained allover blue until sector days when the survivors gained red livery. Some were also painted in "Red Star" livery prior to PO Red. This was blue (possibly a lighter shade than rail blue) with a red stripe at waist height. Examples of both ex-MR and ex-WR units received this livery but I think only after the latter had their gangways removed. http://flickriver.co...N02/3621851074/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jim s-w Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Dont forget rail blue with only the gangway covers in yellow. Cheers Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted February 10, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 10, 2012 Dont forget rail blue with only the gangway covers in yellow. Cheers Jim And of course the original green livery but with the blank doors ('gangway covers') painted yellow - AFAIK this was the first variation from the original livery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FelixM Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Hi All I don't know if this has been asked / answered before.. but does anyone know what liveries these will be released in? Hattons is showing all livery variants for the gangwayed variants (Heljan 8900 - 8903): http://www.ehattons.com/stocklist/27/1/45/0/Heljan_UK_OO_Gauge_1_76th_Scale_Diesel_Multiple_Units_DMU_/prodlist.aspx Felix Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmustu Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Just recieved an email from hattons - Heljan UK 8903 Class 128 DPU M55994 in rail blue with full yellow ends. £94.00 Our latest information from the supplier suggests this item will arrive with us on or after Monday 2nd July 2012 Whilst we are hopeful this information is accurate, manufacturer lead times are frequently prone to be delayed. This information is to be used as a guide only. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Some were also painted in "Red Star" livery prior to PO Red. This was blue (possibly a lighter shade than rail blue) with a red stripe at waist height. Examples of both ex-MR and ex-WR units received this livery but I think only after the latter had their gangways removed. http://flickriver.co...N02/3621851074/ W55991/2 the two London area vehicles were plain rail blue with full yellow ends until they became PO red. One of these two was an early repaint into rail blue with a red buffer beam and yellow gangways just like the green livery. I posted a pic on the old RMweb. They were not around for long in the PO red but looked great! Almost immediately, it seemed, converted Derby two-car DMUs (114s?) were drafted in to replace them and then all the PO stock was sent north (to Inverness, I believe, and given the chop before any preservation interests could be expressed. Word was that the POst Office didn't want to deal with asbestos issues. Several preserved railways wanted them as self-propelled mobile tool vans, workshops. I think it was only the LMR non-gangwayed cars that got Red Star, blue with a red stripe. CHRIS LEIGH Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NINJA Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Taken at Crewe with DMU intow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gronk the shunter Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Does anyone know if this is still likely to be delivered next week? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
59205 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Does anyone know if this is still likely to be delivered next week? Later this year I was told when I asked Howes last week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gronk the shunter Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Things are very quiet in relation to this model, has anyone seen CAD or preproduction samples? It was due last month but no sign of it. I'm eagerly waiting for this, with fingers crossed that Heljan actually get this one right! Got a terrible feeling that I might be disappointed though! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted August 2, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 2, 2012 One month past an "expected" date is nothing. Six months might be regarded as more the norm with 12 - 18 months by no means out of the question. There are so many variables, unknowns and potential problems along the way not least in cases where there are no prototypes which could be laser-scanned. That said I am also taking a keen interest even though the MPVs never ran in my area of interest. Neither did the SR MLVs but I have one of those in the mail already Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 40-something Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Things are very quiet in relation to this model, has anyone seen CAD or preproduction samples? It was due last month but no sign of it. I'm eagerly waiting for this, with fingers crossed that Heljan actually get this one right! Got a terrible feeling that I might be disappointed though! Im pretty sure there was a basic bodyshell moulding on Heljan's stand at Model Rail Scotland this year. Could be wrong though. Im looking forward to it myself, do hope they get it right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gronk the shunter Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Im pretty sure there was a basic bodyshell moulding on Heljan's stand at Model Rail Scotland this year. Could be wrong though. Im looking forward to it myself, do hope they get it right. did anyone get any pictures,? I haven't seen any but would very much like to see what to expect Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spackz Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 No pictures, but I have seen the pre production sample at Howes it looks good. They inspect and test the Heljan models before release, probably still 6 months away though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 D 1650 in Snow Hill by geoff7918, on Flickr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan452 Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 No pictures, but I have seen the pre production sample at Howes it looks good. They inspect and test the Heljan models before release, probably still 6 months away though. http://www.facebook....&type=1 - Scroll down Fiona O Lam - 'Cute Trains' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 Was there nothing on the Heljan stand at Warley - pre-pro / bodyshells ??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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