RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted November 22, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 22, 2010 Phil, I can't find the hydraulic reservoir you mention. But there is this structure which might be brought in to play: http://www.flickr.co...oon/4470010095/ Also, like your idea of the OLE frame. Andy That is the building I was thinking of, I thought it was a Hydraulic tower. One does exist in London, IIRC it was built by Brunel. I also noticed the Church to the right on the other side of the line, these large churches were also a feature of the east end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted November 22, 2010 Author Share Posted November 22, 2010 Slightly off topic but can anyone remember the piece of graffiti that was plastered on every railway bridge in East London in the late 60s/70s (at a guess). It was something like: "So-and-so IS INNOCENT, OK?" Can't remember the name of the individual who was meant to be innocent. "George something" maybe? Always wondered what he was innocent of. Or maybe even "not guilty" of. B) It's just a small detail, but reckon it would set the time and place! Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 George Davis is the man in question: Wikipedia entry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted November 22, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 22, 2010 G. Davis is Innocent (sometimes George spelled out in full if the space were large enough). Add to that the frequent sightings of the crossed hammers and initials WHFC showing allegiance to West Ham and a not inconsiderable number of Anti-Nazi League and Socialist Worker Party posters and you'd capture the era perfectly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted November 22, 2010 Author Share Posted November 22, 2010 George Davis is the man in question: Wikipedia entry I knew it was something like that name. Thanks, Del. N-gauge graffiti - that's going to take a steady hand! Fascinating wiki entry, too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sheep Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 That is the building I was thinking of, I thought it was a Hydraulic tower. One does exist in London, IIRC it was built by Brunel. I also noticed the Church to the right on the other side of the line, these large churches were also a feature of the east end. I was getting ready to be surprised, but then you attributed it to Brunel, the man who, I'm sure, could have managed to sell someone a steam powered elephant. So, for hiding a line exiting from the layout we've got: Hydraulic tower, east end pub bill board (possibly with added graffiti) to which I'll add: Chimney from a boiler house for a small factory / brewery / any industry that would have needed or used steam power at some point in its life Could a bus depot require a tall roof with boiler house on the side? Gas storage cylinder block of flats building site (building block of flats) church spire i'm out of ideas now I'm afraid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted December 22, 2010 Author Share Posted December 22, 2010 Thanks Black Sheep for all the ideas. I spotted that church, too. At the moment I'm working on the baseboards for Roding Reach - and by working I mean looking out of the window at snow. I've also been thinking about a 2nd scenic board (Leigh-on-Sea to the old Leigh Station, maybe) to complement the "London" end of this layout. But for now I'd settle for getting one bit progressed a bit. Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 heres some of Swan street. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 There were, of course, two other gentlemen who were allegedly innocent - Bill Posters and Bill Stickers - both of whom were to be prosecuted! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grovenor Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Phil,I can't find the hydraulic reservoir you mention. But there is this structure which might be brought in to play: http://www.flickr.co...oon/4470010095/ That tower was, I think, a hydraulic accumulator for the cranes etc in the goods depot that used to be there, old signal box it never was. There is another smaller but nicer hydraulic accumulator tower adjacent to the DLR track next to Limehouse basin, octagonal in this case. Regards Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sheep Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 heres some of Swan street. I love that half demolished building where you can see all the fireplaces in the chimney breasts! would there not have been a bit of bracing put in place as that internal wall wasn't intended to be an external wall? possibly not as they are very stout looking chimney breasts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted December 26, 2010 Author Share Posted December 26, 2010 An interesting thread, but I have a question about the "hydraulic accumulator" tower. What was a "hydraulic accumulator tower" and how did it work. I think it was Keith who mentioned it powered the cranes inside, but I'm curious if anyone can explain the workings a bit to me. (And yes, it was me that first suggested it was a signal box ) Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted December 26, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 26, 2010 An interesting thread, but I have a question about the "hydraulic accumulator" tower. What was a "hydraulic accumulator tower" and how did it work. I think it was Keith who mentioned it powered the cranes inside, but I'm curious if anyone can explain the workings a bit to me. (And yes, it was me that first suggested it was a signal box ) Andy It was basically a very tall water tank with a large and heavy float that fitted like a piston. Water was pumped into the tower beneath the float (usually overnight) so at the commencement of work in the morning the float would be at the top of the tower. During the day as the float sank it maintained the pressure within the system. As electric motors and distribution systems developed they supplanted but never completely replaced the hydraulic systems. The pressure was distributed by a main to mainly docks and warehouses and many systems were separate company's like gas and electric suppliers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted December 26, 2010 Author Share Posted December 26, 2010 It was basically a very tall water tank with a large and heavy float that fitted like a piston. Water was pumped into the tower beneath the float (usually overnight) so at the commencement of work in the morning the float would be at the top of the tower. During the day as the float sank it maintained the pressure within the system. Thanks, Phil. I'm assuming that the resulting hydraulic pressure was fed by pipe to various cranes in the adjacent depot? As I say, not a system I've come across before. Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted December 26, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 26, 2010 They provided power to some machinery some distance away. IIRC there was a large tower that provided power to the Liverpool docks that powered machinery over a mile away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted January 23, 2011 Author Share Posted January 23, 2011 Wanted to show you that your advise didn't fall on deaf ears. So, here's my interpretation of the hydraulic reservoir near Fenchurch St. (slightly shrunk, 3 windows wide, not 4. And a door on just one side, not both). Struggled a bit with cutting out openings for the arch windows, but wanted to have a go. I also considered putting a water tank inside, but this almost cancelled out the effect of having windows! For info, the tank was half-inched from the 4mm Ratio/Wills kit for a coalin stage/water tower. First coat of paint went on a few minutes ago. I also posted a question recently on how to put lettering onto brickwork and will be having a go at this soon. Window frames, roof beams, struts and toning down yet to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted January 25, 2011 Author Share Posted January 25, 2011 Thought you might like to see how this turned out.... Accumulator tower in position on Roading Reach. Now begs the question how to disguise the exit to the fiddle yard! Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sheep Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Personally I think a billboard ploy would be the way to go! if you know the size of the billboard and what you might like on it I'd be able to piece together a billboard poster for you if you'd like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted January 25, 2011 Author Share Posted January 25, 2011 Personally I think a billboard ploy would be the way to go! if you know the size of the billboard and what you might like on it I'd be able to piece together a billboard poster for you if you'd like? That'd be very kind and I tend to agree. I'm thinking that a billboard parallel to the track and opposite the island platform (currently invisible!)would be the best way to disguise the exit. I'll try and figure out the size a bit later tonight. As for appropriate advert for it, anyone got suggestions? The era is 1974 onwards, but probably not much past 1984. Only proviso is no "cigarette adverts", please! Cinzano, British Airways,.... Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sheep Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Ford? just pulled this from google: http://www.old-ads.com/page/13 have a look though, I can either re-create, polish up (to improve quality) or make one in the style of Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted January 26, 2011 Author Share Posted January 26, 2011 Capri would certainly tie in with the location! Is the one in your piccie a Mk 1 (pre 1974) or later? I may need to throw in an Austin 1300 and an All-agro as well, though. I'll get the layout our later and figure out some sizes that would work. Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sheep Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 The one I posted is a MK1 (the thick 'hockey stick' line on the side gives it away if you're a bit of a car geek!) I'll have to make sure the correct year model is used in the advert as it has to be correct for the year as you're well aware. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted January 26, 2011 Author Share Posted January 26, 2011 The one I posted is a MK1 (the thick 'hockey stick' line on the side gives it away if you're a bit of a car geek!) I'll have to make sure the correct year model is used in the advert as it has to be correct for the year as you're well aware. Having owned an Austin Agro I can't claim to be a car geek, but you're quite right, a post 1974 version would be the one. The domestic authorities have just told me that her dad had a yellow Capri and they went from the West Midlands to Southern Spain in it - 4 adults and 2 children over a two day period with all of them sleeping at night inside it. So, a Capri brings back memories for her! Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sheep Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 so something like this? at the end of the day, it's your billboard, so whatever you want, I'll source images and put it together, so if you want something on a sunny day or have a favorite car then it can be done Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 You might want to consider using some large trees as shown in one of the google streetview shots above. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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