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#1 spackz

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Posted 20 November 2010 - 19:58

ADMIN EDIT: Dapol announced at Warley:

clarification on our announcements of today;

Class 21/29 work is already unbderway on these OO gauge models and as with the class 22 project any help from you guys would be gratefully received with regards pictures etc.


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Hello Dapol Dave,

That is some excellent news about the class 21's I will be purchasing a couple if the initial production models in all over green as seen in London are included, I like many on here have been waiting for this news for years. Baby Deltic will have some good information on the NBL 21's, he advised me on some good books will colour pics. Hope this helps.

Regars Paul



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Posted 20 November 2010 - 21:03

Excellent news re 21/29 thanks for confirming this Dave. The last BR diesel class falls- I'll have to offload my dated Hornby 29 which was awaiting a rebuild

best online photos of the 29 (and some 21s) are Brushveterans of this parish
http://grahame910.fotopic.net/
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Posted 21 November 2010 - 11:27

Another vote for the 21/29. You've no idea how welcome an up-to date model of this ScR signature type is Dave. Thanks! :)

Dave.

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Posted 21 November 2010 - 12:16

Wonderful news, Dave. Having just resumed work on my Hornby conversion, it was bound to appear in r-t-r sooner or later! Please put me down for 2 in plain green as well and a DP2, of course.

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Posted 21 November 2010 - 13:52

Excellent news re the NBL type 2.
I trust it will feature the dirty front windows so often seen on the real thing. :D

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Posted 21 November 2010 - 15:37

Splendid news. i will have 2 at least!
Which class 21 variants are being made exactly- Green/Blue?/yellow end/noyellow end?
2-3 variants of 29 too!

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Posted 22 November 2010 - 11:47

Did any receive yellow panels before they were sent to Scotland?

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Posted 22 November 2010 - 11:51

Class 21/29's - bliss... :D :D :D
Well that is another loco "frae hame" sorted out then for the project...

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Posted 22 November 2010 - 12:14

Hi everyone,

glad we seem to have made peoples day with this announcement ;)

We have started cad/cam work on it using the dimensions we know of, but like the class 22 it will take help (which i'm not afraid to ask for) and a little time.

Having said that it is being 'fast tracked' if you will excuse the pun for 2011.

so if any of you can help with anything from dimensions of bodyside grilles (yes we are missing that crucial one) to pictures of the class in service (oh for a time machine and access to Woodhams) then we would be very grateful.

Like all our recent projects of this ilk, i will keep you posted, and try and update things when i think its worth it, but rest assured it wont be a 2 year burnt down factory, and start from scratch job like the 22 :lol:

Cheers
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Posted 22 November 2010 - 13:07

No Neil, they all went north in 1959-60. Yellow panels didn't become commonplace until mid 1963.

Dave.

Did any receive yellow panels before they were sent to Scotland?



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Posted 22 November 2010 - 13:18

Dave,

Many thanks for undertaking production of this model, great news.

Just to clarify, are you planning to release both CL21 and 29 variants? The reason I ask, is I believe your CL22 is the later modified version only i.e. with split headcode boxes. I model the ' plain green' period, so I'm hoping for an 'as delivered' version - well two actually! Thanks.

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Posted 22 November 2010 - 14:16

Hi,

as with the class 22, we are putting slides into the tool to allow us to model most, if not all, class 21 + 29 variants.

hope this helps?

cheers
Dave

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Posted 22 November 2010 - 15:02

Hi,

as with the class 22, we are putting slides into the tool to allow us to model most, if not all, class 21 + 29 variants.

hope this helps?

cheers
Dave

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You naughty naughty man :lol:
By this could get expensive......................

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Posted 22 November 2010 - 15:03

Hi,

as with the class 22, we are putting slides into the tool to allow us to model most, if not all, class 21 + 29 variants.

hope this helps?

cheers
Dave

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Here's hoping that this includes the sliding window/tablet catcher variant! I'll keep working on my Hornby conversion just to spur things along though ;)

Cheers,

David

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Posted 22 November 2010 - 15:51

Hi,

as with the class 22, we are putting slides into the tool to allow us to model most, if not all, class 21 + 29 variants.

hope this helps?

cheers
Dave

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You're a star Dave!

I might as well initiate divorce proceedings now as SWMBO will not stand another winter of discontent without food and heat in order to fund my 'habit' - CL21 (2), DP2, Sentinel (2) and the list just keeps growing...........

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Posted 22 November 2010 - 16:16

We have started cad/cam work on it using the dimensions we know of, but like the class 22 it will take help (which i'm not afraid to ask for) and a little time.

so if any of you can help with anything from dimensions of bodyside grilles (yes we are missing that crucial one) to pictures of the class in service (oh for a time machine and access to Woodhams) then we would be very grateful.



Dave
This book contains many photos of the class at various dates. Probably the most comprehensive collection from one source. It will at least help you to avoid errors in getting the right dates for the painting of yellow end panels. :D
http://www.rmweb.co....on-in-scotland/
Bernard

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Posted 22 November 2010 - 17:36

What fantastic news. Class 21's in all over green livery - superb!

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Posted 23 November 2010 - 09:58

Excellent news. This fills in a gap for Scottish modellers very nicely. I no doubt will be getting one or two.

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Posted 23 November 2010 - 10:59

With the recent release of the Craven DMU and Class 15, and the release of the W&M railbus, Derby light-weight DMU and now Class 21 due next year, the East Anglia railway modeller is well served for diesel power. (just need a few GE steam locos!)

In respect of the Class 21, when new, D6110-9 were allocated to 30A Stratford and D6120-37 to 32B Ipswich.

Dr Ian C Allen took a number of photos of the Class 21 in East Anglia, albeit on the list at http://www.transport...collection.html only one is shown, "ref D498 D6124 tn frt Beccles". Additional photos are in his book
Diesels in East Anglia ISBN 86093 106 5 (1980)

The pilot batch D6100-9 when new being allocated to Hornsey.

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Posted 23 November 2010 - 11:19

Well happy and annoyed all at the same time. Paid a small premium at Halifax for a second hand Hornby 29 to detail up and run on Eskmuir but delighted that I will be able to replace this with modern 29 and also with a plain green 21 as well B)

Anyone for creating a sound chip of fitters throwing spanners and cursing so I can park one on the depot :rolleyes:
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Posted 23 November 2010 - 13:11

Causes me an expensive problem this one! I already have a pair of Hornby 21's, which I wish to replace. Thing is, I want them as before, D6110/12 as seen on delivery as light engines through Cambridge, with the communication doors connected. With the Hornby pair, I used the motor bogie elsewhere. Any chance that Dapol will do a dummy loco cheaper for the 2nd one I wonder?

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Posted 23 November 2010 - 14:03

Oh Dear!

After George C O'Hara's new book, followed by Bruce Springsteen's The Promise (other music is available) I almost posted on RMweb that the pre- Christmas treats could not possibly get any better and that if Dapol Dave were to announce a Class 29 I would have to take myself to a darkened room and implode with joy.

I am about to remove myself to said room, Bruce is singing and joyous implosion is due.

Many Thanks Dapol Dave.

Kind Regards,

Stewart.

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Posted 24 November 2010 - 15:08

Just wondering. Is the 21/29 going to be a limited edition run like the 22 being produced for Kernow or will it be general availability?

Cheers,

David

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Posted 24 November 2010 - 15:14

Just wondering. Is the 21/29 going to be a limited edition run like the 22 being produced for Kernow or will it be general availability?

Hi David,

not sure where you got that info from but the class 22 is for all stockists who want to order it, and so will the 21/29 be :D
Hope this helps
Cheers

Dave
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#25 Charlie

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Posted 25 November 2010 - 01:08

I think you're mixing up the Kernow D500's with the class 22's...