Stevelewis Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Think theres modelzone in Chester somewhere!! need to go and have look..... There certainly is I was in there this morning Bought some AllTerrain incline units!! ( Now theres a product we dont see mention of very often!!) I was surprised to be greeted by an old acquantance of mine when I entered the shop, The manager is the ex owner of 'The Arts & Crafts Studio which was the business Modelzone bought off him some 3.5 years ago ( doesnt time fly!!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny Emily Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Caledonian mentioned that the colour looked very dark. I can't bring to mind where from memory, but I know I've seen picture references showing NCB 16T minerals in black. The real wagons would have been repainted by the NCB, and I guess it is unlikely that they would have used exactly the same colour paint that BR did. I think that the dark grey adds a nice variety to a train of wagons if one mixes them in with a few heavily weathered BR grey and bauxite wagons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
97403_Ixion Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Hi all, picking up the NCB Pannier today, I was also surprised to find a few other items now in stock. Items currently available now include: 32-210Y NCB Pannier Tank 37-225W NCB 16T Mineral Wagons 37-669Z 14t BP/Shell tanks (weathered) 37-537Z 20t CAR 'New Cross Gate' Guards Van (weathered) 38-160V Pack of 3 condemned vans 38-095Z Pair of PNA wagons (weathered) ...the N-gauge 97201 was also in stock, but technically Bachmann Farish All were in stock and available! Of note, on a packaging perspective, the PNAs come in a long box, typical of the tanker 3 packs, but with just two wagons... makes it easier to store and not as separate wagons. I quite like the weathered guard's van - simple but there's something about it that's appealing. Cheers, Ixion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny Emily Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Thanks for the heads up! I've just called the Trafford Centre shop and reserved a set of both the condemned vans and the CAR brake van. They only had the CAR van in stock, but expected the condemned vans in their Tuesday delivery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairburn Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Money has come out of my account for the Signal Box to send me the CAR brake van, the 3 nr. condemend vans and the 2 nr. PNA's, I'd tagged them onto a previous order. On the subject of which I purchased the NSE 08, 'Dartmoor', but there are no wipers to the screens. I've raised it with Signal Box and they checked a stock model and that was without them too, but i've another Bachmann 08 with them fitted and my lad also has one with them. Checked with Bachmann and they don't supply them as a spare - any ideas, folks? Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted February 14, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 14, 2011 Looking at the Signal Box website, it seems that the Bullied 3-car set of coaches S768 has arrived Bullied set S768. Has anyone seen one? I presume the coaches are unchanged from the latest standard models in most respects, but hopefully a better representation of BR Green than current versions and the set number is on the BSK coach ends? If the Green is accurate - the same colour as the latest Farish (but NOT the Bachmann) Mk1s would be a good comparitor - then I would be tempted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted February 14, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 14, 2011 Looking at the Signal Box website, it seems that the Bullied 3-car set of coaches S768 has arrived Bullied set S768. Has anyone seen one? I presume the coaches are unchanged from the latest standard models in most respects, but hopefully a better representation of BR Green than current versions and the set number is on the BSK coach ends? If the Green is accurate - the same colour as the latest Farish (but NOT the Bachmann) Mk1s would be a good comparitor - then I would be tempted. I picked up my Bulleid Set (or rather I had mine delivered in person by the shop manager - thanks so much) at the Donny show. Beautiful set, however the coaches do look a rather dark green. I think it is the same green as on the latest releases of 'standard' Bulleid stock? No idea if it's anything like the Farish ones. I really can't remember what the colour of real ex works Bulleids looked like so I'm happy with my set. All I need now is to get on with doing something about getting the layout to run them on 36E Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted February 14, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 14, 2011 I picked up my Bulleid Set (or rather I had mine delivered in person by the shop manager - thanks so much) at the Donny show. Beautiful set, however the coaches do look a rather dark green. I think it is the same green as on the latest releases of 'standard' Bulleid stock? No idea if it's anything like the Farish ones. I really can't remember what the colour of real ex works Bulleids looked like so I'm happy with my set. All I need now is to get on with doing something about getting the layout to run them on 36E Thanks. So it looks like "No Thanks" to the set for me. The current green used by Bachmann for its OO Mk1s and standard Bullied coaches is too dark - accepted (on here) wisdom is that the green used by Bachmann Farish on its new Mk1s and by Hornby on it BR green Maunsells are much better representations. I had hoped ModelZone would have insisted on a better colour but it seems not... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny Emily Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 I've just picked up my condemned vans and CAR brake. They really do look excellent models. For the period I prefer to model, they are perfect! It's about time a brake van appeared in the Bachmann range factory weathered, and this is an eye-catching example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted February 16, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 16, 2011 noticed that modelzone birmingham had the ltd ed mainline 09 on sale for £39.99 earlier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSG75 Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Hi, do the weathered vans have "VVV" TOPS codes ? Thanks ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny Emily Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Hi, do the weathered vans have "VVV" TOPS codes ? Thanks ! Two are coded VVV and the third has 'VANFIT' instead, though all are good for the TOPS period. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted February 16, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 16, 2011 Thanks. So it looks like "No Thanks" to the set for me. The current green used by Bachmann for its OO Mk1s and standard Bullied coaches is too dark - accepted (on here) wisdom is that the green used by Bachmann Farish on its new Mk1s and by Hornby on it BR green Maunsells are much better representations. I had hoped ModelZone would have insisted on a better colour but it seems not... I could try and take a good daylight pic of one of them for you if you want. Being where you are you can't really have a look at a set can you? Let me know PM 'cause it would be a shame if the set is OK and you rely on my rather vague description 36E Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
97403_Ixion Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Hi, I have managed to get round to taking photos of a few of the specials. I hope you like them and they are not too big for viewing. I'll post in seperate entries for each type of vehicle, owing to technical issues. They will be: NCB Minerals CAR Brake 14t BP-Shell Tankers PNA Wagons Condemned Vans So, to start, the NCB Minerals. Of note is that each side appears to be a duplicate of the other. Wagon 1, Side 1 Wagon 1, Side 2 Wagon 2, Side 1 Wagon 2, Side 2 Wagon 3, Side 1 Wagon 3, Side 2 Wagon 3, Side 2, Closeup of axle/light weathering Cheers, Ixion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
97403_Ixion Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Hi, next up is the CAR Brake Van in bauxite, lightly weathered. Side 1 Side 2 Side Decoration Closeup Iso View Cheers, Ixion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
97403_Ixion Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Hi, now, the 14t Shell-BP tankers. A set of 3, all lightly oil stained and weathered. Tank 1 Side 1 Tank 1 Side 2 Tank 2 Side 1 Tank 2 Side 2 Tank 3 Side 1 Tank 3 Side 2 Closeup Cheers, Ixion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
97403_Ixion Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Hi, now a more modern wagon, the PNA. Subtle weathering on this one. One wagon wearing the CAIB marking. Wagon 1 Side 1 Wagon 1 Side 2 Wagon 2 Side 1 Wagon 2 Side 2 Cheers, Ixion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
97403_Ixion Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Hi, finally, my personal favourites, the bauxite condemned, lightly weathered vent vans. Just before, I hope the photos are of use to people who may be considering the models of this set of postings. I have tried to keep image sizes right down, so I hope no one has big problems loading them. Van 1 Side 1 Van 1 Side 2 Van 2 Side 1 Van 2 Side 2 Van 3 Side 1 Van 3 Side 2 All three vans - nice Cheers, Ixion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Piszczek Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Thanks for taking the images of the wagons and posting them! Bachmann seem to have done an exceptional job on these, but... They sure do have a hard time getting the brakes correct! The tanks are always wrong on one side, Bachmann are using a chassis with a cross connect and clutch, the brakes should be independent, i.e. no connecting rod from side to side. A pain to correct, in this day and age Bachmann really should be using a different chassis with the correct brakes... Unlucky you are too, because the three condemned vans all have the brakes assembled backwards. The brake handle / Morton clutch is on the wrong side in all three cases. This is a case of Bachmann having the correct parts and assembling them wrong. Fairly easy to correct, but a slight pain on a pre weathered model as you will disturb the weathering when you pry the bits off and switch them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennine MC Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 next up is the CAR Brake Van in bauxite, lightly weathered I'd beg to differ with that I pre-ordered three of these (one for a mate), only to find that the weathering on one in particular was so heavy that I found it unacceptable. Last weekend, I did manage to find two better ones from The Signalbox at the Donny show, and obtained a refund on two of the others with no problem, but even the best of them is rather more blathered than those pics. I accept that factory weathering varies, but I'm afraid I really cant see the point of it when it almost obliterates very fine lettering detail (which in this case was my main reason for buying). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.Uni Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Thanks for the pictures 97403_Ixion. I'm tempted by the condemned vans and the brake van. I think I wait until after my birthday before buying them (assuming that A. they are still in stock by then and B. I remember them ). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
97403_Ixion Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 Hi Pete Piszczek, Pennine MC and Paul.Uni, I wonder if they are all built the same or perhaps I was just 'unlucky'? That said, I'm no expert in the subject, so I admit to not realising it I take what you say though - it's a shame some of these simple issues cannot be addressed more consistently. Regarding weathering, I have to admit it did seem a little light. That said, I may be tempted to get another one, with the hope it would be a little more heavy... so there's hope yet!! Paul.Uni - I hope their popularity does not prevent you from being able to get one! I would say they are well worth it... Regarding the vans, I can't remember seeing a condemned vehicle in the past, except one of the NCB wagons in this posting. I hope you do manage to get what you are after though Cheers, Ixion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 Hi, I have managed to get round to taking photos of a few of the specials. I hope you like them and they are not too big for viewing. I'll post in seperate entries for each type of vehicle, owing to technical issues. They will be: NCB Minerals CAR Brake 14t BP-Shell Tankers PNA Wagons Condemned Vans So, to start, the NCB Minerals. Of note is that each side appears to be a duplicate of the other. Wagon 1, Side 1 Wagon 1, Side 2 Wagon 2, Side 1 Wagon 2, Side 2 Wagon 3, Side 1 Wagon 3, Side 2 Wagon 3, Side 2, Closeup of axle/light weathering Cheers, Ixion. Prototype of OE72413 here http://gallery6801.fotopic.net/p52604781.html NCB 29 at http://gallery6801.fotopic.net/p52604734.html NCB 100 at http://gallery6801.fotopic.net/p52604769.html And accurate! Paul Bartlett Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 Hi, next up is the CAR Brake Van in bauxite, lightly weathered. Side 1 Side 2 Side Decoration Closeup Iso View Cheers, Ixion. Thanks for posting all of these. Prototype of the van here http://gallery6801.fotopic.net/p17129852.html and here http://gallery6801.fotopic.net/p17129794.html The end planking of the model is not modified like the prototype Paul Bartlett Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 Hi, finally, my personal favourites, the bauxite condemned, lightly weathered vent vans. Just before, I hope the photos are of use to people who may be considering the models of this set of postings. I have tried to keep image sizes right down, so I hope no one has big problems loading them. Van 1 Side 1 Van 1 Side 2 Van 2 Side 1 Van 2 Side 2 Van 3 Side 1 Van 3 Side 2 All three vans - nice Cheers, Ixion. Prototype of B765436 http://gallery6801.fotopic.net/p20301300.html B772598 here http://gallery6801.fotopic.net/p20301237.html B768815 here http://gallery6801.fotopic.net/p13038097.html Once again thanks for posting, very interesting to me. Paul Bartlett Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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