Hornby Class 50,s

[35 Ark Royal]

Hi don't know what happened to the old site but Here is my small fleet of Hornby Class 50's

I model the 87 - 89 period

50032 Courageous ONSE Weathered with blue nameplates and painted axleboxes

50034 Furious ONSE Weathered with painted axleboxes and 034 on cabsides

50035 Ark Royal ONSE lightley Weathered with 35 above healight both ends and driver in cab

To Arrive

50036 Victorious Large Logo with red bufferbeams and NSE flashes on headcode box.Lightley Weathered and painted axleboxes

In Works

50039 Implacable Large Logo Weathered complete with radio roof pods NSE flashes on headcode boxes and painted axleboxes (loco currently 50041 Bulwark)

 

 

The plan is to eventually model my top 10 locos in my chosen livery which are

1. 50035 Ark Royal ONSE YES

2. 50017 Royal Oak RNSE Light Blue NO

3. 50034 Furious ONSE YES

4. 50039 Implacable Large Logo with radio roof pods, NSE flashes on headcode box and painted axleboxes

IN WORKS

 

5. 50019 Ramillies Laira Blue Civil Engineering Livery NO

6. 50033 Glorious same as 039 NO

7. 50036 Victorious same as 033/039 but red buffer beams and radio roof pods to add TO ARRIVE

8. 50032 Courageous ONSE with Blue Nameplates YES

9. 50050 Fearless RNSE light Blue with Crests NO

10.50014 Warspite Large Logo with red buffer beams and Black roof.NO NB

NB For modelling purpouses i have chosen this loco as it was a toss up between 50004 St Vincent and 50030 Repulse, although least mileage i have chosen Warspite for Livery difference plus it was a firm favourite of mine and sadly the 3rd to go

 

50014 Warspite r.i.p

 

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[The Fatadder]

Currently my fleet comprises:

• 50001 - Dreadnaught - Early Revised NSE
• 50007 - Elgar - GWR 150
• 50014 - Warspite - Large Logo with black roof - In works
• 50031 - Hood
• 50036 - Victorious - Large Logo
• 50037 - Illustrious - Early NSE
• 50039 - Implacable - Large Logo
• 50049 - Defiant - Railfreight

All of them have been converted to P4 (half with branchlines wheels and the other half with gibsons which have unfortunately failed to stay on the axles, the gibson half are now in the process of being replaced with Ultrascales.

Most locos have been renumbered, and Victorious and Implacable were professionally weathered a couple of years back.

Hood has had some minor livery changes to model it in preserved (mainline certified) condition, and Elgar has had the nameplates corrected.

In each case when renumbering correct details (red buffer beams etc) have been added.

 

At the moment I have one weathered 002 which is going to be striped down and resprayed in Large Logo (with black roof) as Warspite, however I am waiting for detailing parts to be come available before starting (as I want to correct the cab windscreen, improve the grills etc.) No point starting the project until the bits are available! Assuming that this conversion goes well, I plan on carrying out the same modifications across the rest of the fleet.

[35 Ark Royal]

Hi Rich Interesting that 2 of the locos in your fleet Victorious and Implacable are also hopefuly to be in my fleet.On what basis did you decide to model theese?Mine are runs behind and mileage with Victorious been one of the first one i had direct via the old High Wycombe route Padd to Brum and Implacable the first one i had on the down midnight Reading to Penzance.Also a storming run Plymouth to Bristol in August 1986.

Also interesting to note you also plan to model Warspite with black roof.My admiration for this fine loco goes back to the days it was unrefurbished with most mileage achieved from unmodified vac.In 1987 i chased it and managed to get it to Portsmouth Harbour and Newquay before withdrawl.I also think it had one of the best names if you compare it to Benbow or Barham both of which in the bottom pile but not just for the names

Also as regards 39 when i was a kid one afternnon at Reading 30/08/1980 this loco came into the station on fire!!, the train crew were unable to put out the fire so the fire brigade attended.This was the first time i saw the loco!!

All three now sady a memory r.i.p

[The Fatadder]

My choice of locos to model comes down to a couple of factors, Victorious, Hood, Implacable & Dreadnought were simply chosen for their names, Others such as Warspite, Illustrious and Defiant were chosen as they matched the livery variations that I wanted to model.

 

As with most things I model I have little to do with the real railway (other than looking at photos of things I'd like to model.) Tend to find that travelling by train just ends up annoying me!

[35 Ark Royal]

I will try and add some photos of my existing fleet over the next few days.

To Rich did you renumber 37 Illustrious from 50048?

I rather foolishley renumbered 50032 Courageous and 50034 Furious from 50048 and realised i had to paint the cab doors white.I won't be buying any more of 048 to renumber as it is just too much work!!!

50035 Ark Royal on the other hand the pride of my fleet is a complete respray.

50041 Bulwark was an impulse buy of ebay which did not fit in with my time period or now as one of my top 10 locos so renumbering to 50039 Implacable is the best decision.

I intend to just have my 10 favourite vacs.However if Hornby were to release any of the following in the appropiate liveries i would be tempted.

50001 RNSE light/blue

50009 Large Logo RNSE Dark Blue

50024 RNSE Light Blue

50025 ONSE

50028 RNSE Light Blue

50029 ONSE/RNSE Dark Blue

50030 RNSE Light Blue

50044 RNSE Light Blue or Un refurbished preserved condition

50046 Large Logo with black roof and 46 on headcode box.

 

I Also may buy 50004.

[The Fatadder]

I will try and add some photos of my existing fleet over the next few days.

To Rich did you renumber 37 Illustrious from 50048?

 

 

Yea it is a renumber from 048, nearly made the same mistake you did with loco choices, but thankfully caught it in time! One day I will get round to trying to sort out the stripes.....

[Bert Cheese]

Currently just 3, all as received for now.

 

50007 in G.W Green.......one day I should get some etched black plates I suppose?

50031 in large logo blue

50149 in railfreight grey

 

Next on the list are 50135 in Loadhaul which someone is bound to release soon, and a weathered 50008 in large logo with black roof etc which I may tackle myself from a suitable donor loco.

 

No NSE 50's here though, I can still remember the disappointment I felt as a youth when seeing what they had done to 50023 on the front cover of "Rail Enthusiast" all those years ago!

(Although the revised version without all the white paint around the windows was not quite as objectionable....)

[Banger Blue]

Only the two:

 

50004 'St Vincent' and 50035 'Ark Royal' both in BR Large Logo.

 

I did have 50007 'Sir Edward Elgar' but that went when I decided to offload my older Lima models.

[35 Ark Royal]

Yes once i had chosen those 2 32 and 34 nameplates already fitted so the white cab door had to be done.I think Hornby missed the boat here by releasing one of the obscure Doncaster ones as more peolple would have bought the the ONSE model if it had been one of the standard ones ie 50017/018/023/025/026/029/032/034/035/.I think Courageous would have been a much better choice than Dauntless as in the standard livery and benifit of been unique with the blue nameplates.

As i said i won't be buying any more of 048 to re number as just too much work.I was going to use 48 as base model for Royal Oak but have now decided to either purchase a Lion or a Superb, either causes more work as 27 would need a grill as it has an extra window and 2 would need the awful weathering removed.

Dauntless you can now pick up for as cheap as ??50 which shows model is unpopular and not a good seller.

[Temeraire]

The current Exford Park fleet:

 

50002 Superb. RNSE (dark). Untouched so far.

50003 Temeraire. RNSE (light). Renumbered/weathered from Lion.

50007 Sir Ted GW150. Added new plates with black backgrounds.

50024 Vanguard RNSE (dark). In works being renumbered from 50045.

50031 Hood Blue LL. As bought.

50036 Victorious Blue LL. Renumbered/weathered from 50035.

50046 Ajax Blue LL black roof. To be renumbered/weathered from another 50035.

50050 Fearless RNSE (light). To be renumbered from another Lion.

 

Possible addition could be an Early NSE example at some point. The renumbering is a slow process as any spare time is devoted to building the new layout.

[35 Ark Royal]

To Temeraire yes i know what you mean about renumbering been a slow process as i am planning on extending my layout which takes time.

However you are up on me as you have the loco's ready for renumbering where as i still have to buy for renumbering to 50014/017/019/033 and 050.As i plan on using Lion as base model for Royal Oak and Fearless theese will be more difficult as i have to replace an extra window added by Hornby with a grill.Also on fearless the handrails will need removing which means repainting the yellow. How did you overcome the extra window problem on Temeraire?

I could use a Superb for base model for Royal Oak but would then need modellers licence as 34 and 35 both in RNSE Dark Blue at that time.Does the factory weathering easily come of and is it easy to renumber?

As for Ramillies i have no choice but to do a respray so unless Hornby releases it in the Laira Blue Livery i shall probably leave to last.

At the works Bulwark plates have come of, now if only they were of the real thing i could sell them for ?????? on ebay and add loads more vacs to my fleet .

[50033]

Evening all

 

If it the grilles for a Lion model your after then watch this space! Schiehallion very kindly gave me his master louvre and window grille made from an old Lima model, some time ago. Unfortunately family life has taken up most of my time of late, but I will be getting some casting materials at the end of the month. This means I will be able to finally get on with casting the louvres for my 15 strong class 50 fleet. Personally I only have 1 Lion model so will have plenty of spare window grilles. If however you want a full set I will be making plenty! As soon as I have some success with them I will post on here.

 

 

Thanks

 

Mark

[Temeraire]

Ark Royal

 

I haven't overcome the window issue as it doesn't really bother me that its not 100% accurate, but if I place the loco the right way round on the track the window is on the outside of the oval and therefore I can't see it.

 

As for the weathering I haven't got as far as removing it yet but I know many others have without too much trouble. Renumbering is easy enough, I used T-Cut on a cotton bud to remove all the factory numbers as I found that the Fox numbers are slightly smaller than the Hornby applied ones.

[35 Ark Royal]

Mark A3 said my 15 strong class 50 fleet.

God i wish i had that many, due to a house move i was forced to downsize and sell some of my stock.While i would love 15 50's i feel my layout only big enough for 10 and i need other loco's as well at least 2 of Lougboroughs finest sulzer traction most 50 fan's pet hate.Whilist i hate spoons i feel layout not realistic with just 50's as how many times did the wretched 47's bowl you out while bashing the class.

To Temeraire i am glad it does not bother you with your favourite loco.

Modelling is about compromise and i have to for the time been live with the stripes on 32 and 34.

Love the weathering on Temeraire it's just how i remember it during the twighlight days of the class on the Mule.

[pitbull1845]

Well I don't have any 50's on my fleet. But thats not to say I don't want any. I would like to have 50043 in large logo livery. The reason behind that is that used to have the lima version many years ago and it was a cracking runner and was the pride of my fleet.

I also remember as a young lad going to Salisbury station hoping that a 50 would be stabled in the bay by the carpark, it used to be an awesome sight.

 

So all I need to do is buy a Hornby one and renumber it, and weather it to a almost end of life look. It sounds so simple when I type it out, why haven't I done it before now??

 

I'm sure I will return to this thread for hints and tips on improvements. Any chance of some more photos?

 

Cheers

Scott

 

(off to do the hoovering now!)

[50033]

Afternoon

 

My fleet currently consists of the following

 

50 002 Superb Revised Network Southeast

 

50 007 Sir Edward Elgar Green

 

50 009 Conqueror Revised Network Southeast

 

50 017 Royal Oak Revised Network Southeast

 

50 018 Resolution Revised Network Southeast

 

50 029 Renown Revised Network Southeast

 

50 031 Hood Large Logo BR Blue

 

50 033 Glorious Revised Network Southeast

 

50 037 Illustrious Revised Network Southeast

 

50 044 Exeter Revised Network Southeast

 

50 045 Achilles Revised Network Southeast

 

50 048 Dauntless Revised Network Southeast

50 049 Defiance Revised Network Southeast

 

50 149 Defiance Triple grey

I also have a test model for purposes of trying things out on and three loco's in the works which are currently stripped down and have recieved new windscreen and fan grilles. These three will eventually become 50 027, 50 028 and 50 050 all in revised Network Southeast light blue.

 

All loco's will be receiving new windscreens, fan grilles, paint jobs, sound units and working fans. Along with the louvre castings and being converted to P4.

 

Mark

[pitbull1845]

Nice looking locos Mark, the NSE ones are also very appealing to me now... If only they were still regulary running on the mainline.

[35 Ark Royal]

For pictures of Courageous, Furious and Ark Royal please go to http://westsidestation.webs.com/

Mark i like your 50 fleet , particuarly jealous of 50017

Very nice looking fleet.

[50033]

Thanks guys, glad you like them.

 

Hopefully they will be better once I get them fully detailed and weathered with all the bits I want to do with them. Then I just need to build a decent railway to run them on.

 

Mark

[Trainshed Terry]

I have 50007 'Sir Edward Elgar as it is in the weathered green form Hornby. Etched name yet to be fitted.

 

Terry

[35 Ark Royal]

Ahh Snotvac it is about time it was returned to Hercules.Anybody going to model this Loco either in BR Banger Blue or Large Logo Livery as Hercules? I suspect most people who have 7 in thier fleet will have in the Green Livery either weathered or not as Sir Edward Elgar as most people remember it in this guise and the Livery different from the rest.

[Horsetan]

Have 50035 Ark Royal, converted to S4. It was a present from a good friend. Certainly looks the part.

 

There is a slight issue with the directional lighting in that I get instances where both head and tail LEDs light up simultaneously at one end. Has anyone else come across this, and how can it be fixed?

[50033]

Afternoon

 

I have had it on a couple of loco's and always found the fault to be the dcc plug not pushed home properly. Are you dc or dcc? I suppose even the blanking plug could be at fault on dc!

 

Good luck

 

Mark

[Horsetan]

.....I have had it on a couple of loco's and always found the fault to be the dcc plug not pushed home properly. Are you dc or dcc?....

 

DC. I use a Pentroller.

 

Have checked the DCC blanking plug, and that is definitely securely pushed in.

[35 Ark Royal]

My Ark Royal certainly looks the part resplendent in Original Network South East Livery with painted axleboxes with the red stripe in the middle This is what Old Oak Common used to turn out thier 50's particuarly in Later Years.

To Scott if you choose to model 50043 Eagle in Large Logo livery towards end of it's life ,you will need some modellers licence as last livery it carried was Revised Network South East Dark Blue.Last large Logo Livery it carried was with Black Roof back in Septemner 1987.By the 11th Novemer it was in RNSE in the Lighter Blue Scheme.Anyway good luck with Eagle whatever Livery you choose.