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#1151 dibateg

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Posted 08 January 2018 - 13:10

I wasn't fully happy with the GUV roof - there was a thin bead of light visible along the join from the inside. I also discovered that I'd put the roof on the wrong way round from the original build. The top of the interior is a smidge lower than the outer sides, so it was possible to create a small rebate by running 3 strips of roof tape along the underside of the gutter. This would sit behind the top of the outer sides and with any luck gently compress on to the top of the inner side. It seems to work.. after 4 attempts to get the roof to sit right. We also had a discussion about the window bars, in the colour photos we have, they didn't seem to be cream coloured, and a browse through my colour books suggested that also some of the maroon vehicles had them in the body colour. Anyway, it looks better after repainting them.

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So continuing the MMP theme - I'm now on a class 'B' tank. Having built two of these before, it's a nice little build. With a lot of small pieces of course, but they all fit.

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Posted 08 January 2018 - 13:22

Nice 3500g intermediate tender, but I'm fascinated to know why the toolboxes are wrong.



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Posted 11 January 2018 - 13:36

The toolboxes I think are for a larger tender and are not tall enough and should have plain lids. I managed to get a set of 'A' shop etched toolboxes of the correct pattern. They look a lot better:-

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#1154 CME and Bottlewasher

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Posted 11 January 2018 - 20:21

Lovely work!
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Posted 12 January 2018 - 08:00

The toolboxes I think are for a larger tender and are not tall enough and should have plain lids. I managed to get a set of 'A' shop etched toolboxes of the correct pattern. They look a lot better:-

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Can you post a side on view of the tender?

 

From this angle it looks like it has the earlier curved springs rather than the heavier ones fitted from the mid 1920s.  I would think the intermediate ones were built with the new springs, but they would certainly have been fitted by the 1950s.

 

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Posted 13 January 2018 - 08:26

Thanks Craig -

 

My ignorance of GW matters again! This is what it looks like:-

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If its wrong - what should it look like? And I wonder who would do the right castings, I have 2 weeks before the loco goes off to the painter....

 

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Posted 13 January 2018 - 09:52

Thanks Craig -

 

My ignorance of GW matters again! This is what it looks like:-

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If its wrong - what should it look like? And I wonder who would do the right castings, I have 2 weeks before the loco goes off to the painter....

 

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Hi Tony,

 

Please see attached my very cruel macro photo of the Mitchell 3500 gallon tender I am building in 4 mm scale. This type of spring was introduced in about 1925 (first used on 3500 gallon fitted Castle class) and steadily replaced the earlier springs and was near universal by the mid - late 1930s. I have yet to see a photo of the earlier type after WW2. Hope it helps, you would kick yourself if you found out after painting!

 

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Posted 13 January 2018 - 10:05

Craig is right that the heavier springs were more common on many tenders from the mid-1920s. Here is a 3500g intermediate tender top on an early-style underframe, behind a Collett Goods in BR days:
 
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7mm heavy springs are included in JLTRT kits, and I think in a Mitchell 4000g kit, but I am not aware of any heavy springs being available separately.
 
More info on GWR tenders here.  I haven't been able yet to pinpoint when the heavier springs began to make an appearance, but it could have been as early as 1919. (There were numerous 3500g lots.)


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Posted 13 January 2018 - 11:12

Tony,

 

I would suggest having a chat with Warren Shephard, given that he does a kit for the 4000g tender, and that would have had the deep springs by definition. The guys at Finney7 will almost certainly have the masters for them as well, for much the same reason, but whether they are in a position to make any castings from them yet may be another matter.

 

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Posted 13 January 2018 - 11:32

Thank you chaps for your kind assistance - I'm on the case!

 

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Posted 21 January 2018 - 12:57

A terrible shot - but just to report that the tender spring issue has been resolved. Excellent service as usual from JLTRT, Laurie very kindly sent some new castings, which arrived very quickly. The next project lurks in the background... 15 ABS iron ore tipplers...

 

Thanks again for your assistance chaps.

 

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Posted 23 January 2018 - 16:01

The MMP tank was finished, it didn't take too long and these kits fit together perfectly. It's now off to Paul Moore for painting:-

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Posted 23 January 2018 - 16:15

The MMP tank was finished, it didn't take too long and these kits fit together perfectly. It's now off to Paul Moore for painting:-
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Very nice indeed!
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Posted 12 February 2018 - 08:03

Flu put me out of action for a while - but the Manor was finished and has gone to the painter.

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D602 Came back from Paul Moore, and is just being finished off before going to it's new home.

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Next on the stocks is JLTRT Hall - Shirenewton Hall - the frames are well under way.

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 12:28

Busy man even with the flu. Hope you have kicked it.

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Posted 16 February 2018 - 16:35

Thanks Richard - it's taking me a while to get back from this flu, I seem to be very sleepy.

I'm baffled by one or two things on this loco, the smokebox saddle doesn't seem quite right, I think it should have a flange all the way round... The sanding rod should have a crank behind the drop link for the reverser, I have no detail on what that actually looks like, I can't find anything in the kit for it.

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