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Just noticed that the wagons with the 08 shunter that i posted have slits/holes cut into their sides, any ideas what they were for ?

 

They were often used on stone/engineers ballast etc later in their lives.  As this is denser than coal they could only be loaded approx halfway and the holes were a visual check.

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They were often used on stone/engineers ballast etc later in their lives.  As this is denser than coal they could only be loaded approx halfway and the holes were a visual check.

Note that the wagons have TOPS codes beginning with Z - probably ZHV - and at least the first has a number beginning DB... which also indicate wagons in departmental service. I think the most common use was for spent ballast and spoil, as they are clearly not adapted for discharging fresh ballast.

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Part of the description, (in French), stated an 0-4-0WT, but then goes onto state 0-2-0T.

Did the french have a different way of describing the wheel formations on steam locos?

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Yes - both the French and Spanish  denoted locomotives by axles - for example an 0-8-0 would be 0-4-0.

 

Edit: In fact looks like it is more widespread - here is an Eastern Block  2-6-0 1-3-0!

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On the very last stall just before the exit door at the Macron toy fair yesterday i found this and bought it, i'm not sure if i got a bargain at £25?? but it'll be the one and only 16T wagon i'll ever need for my planned small 7mm layout. I might make a start on putting it together this week, after first choosing a real one to copy off amongst all the brill' pics' posted here.  :locomotive:

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Interesting brandings and triangles on those 16 tonners,

 

Limestone? Corby bound?

 

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I've never seen an instruction about this (yellow triangle on two door mineral says 24.5t. red triangle on china clay says floor of zinc). But looking at my own photos I found one almost instantly http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brmineralweld/e203d23c5 and another http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brmineralweld/e35151d97  http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brmineralweld/e2d5d1b3c  I'll admit I dismissed this as one of the numerous signs which we associate with departmental wagons - although no one has explained them either! An LMS one http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/lmsmineral/e2ef917fe  http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/lmsmineral/e33b5a221 

 

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I've never seen an instruction about this (yellow triangle on two door mineral says 24.5t. red triangle on china clay says floor of zinc). But looking at my own photos I found one almost instantly http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brmineralweld/e203d23c5 and another http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brmineralweld/e35151d97  http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brmineralweld/e2d5d1b3c  I'll admit I dismissed this as one of the numerous signs which we associate with departmental wagons - although no one has explained them either! An LMS one http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/lmsmineral/e2ef917fe  http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/lmsmineral/e33b5a221 

 

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Have they got DB numbers on them, as some other CCE had green triangles on them that had no real relevance as floors were wood or steel.......

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Have they got DB numbers on them, as some other CCE had green triangles on them that had no real relevance as floors were wood or steel.......

A lot of ex-traffic merchandise opens (Medfits and Highs) seemed to carry triangles in different colours; I have seen both single colour ones (red, yellow and blue as well as green), and two-colour (blue and red), most frequently on the LMR. The majority were spoil-carriers, which I'd often see at Alsager tip. Looking at a line of them one day, I did wonder if the train had been assembled by an ex-Navy signaller..

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