the penguin of doom Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Well she was toast here: http://www.derbysulzers.com/6128kittybrewster.jpg so I suspect this very distressed state was her final motley. Good luck, PoD! Thanks Chard. She looks pretty grafted there. Poor old girl! Cheers. Sean. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted December 6, 2011 Author Share Posted December 6, 2011 Just have to link this: http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=36703 GFYE D8608 on a classic mixed freight between South Leith and Millerhill, '70. Let me soak in the atmosphere... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckjumper Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 D8406 also sported a similar SYP to D8404/D8408 on its 'B' end. Great shot, though that's at Standon, not Buntingford which is four stations down the line. I used to live behind the pub on the left, now a Chinese restaurant which served me a meal this evening! The mill on the right has been converted into apartments, and the station has sprouted housing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted January 22, 2012 Author Share Posted January 22, 2012 (edited) D8500 BFYE D8502 BFYE http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=32603 D8503 BFYE D8504 GFYE no D - Cashmores, Great Bridge 09/75 D8505 GSYP D8507 BFYE 23/4/73 Glasgow Works D8508 GFYE 5/8/73 Glasgow Works D8510 BFYE Kingmoor 1967 ref 31770, 13/10/70 Niddrie, Railscot ref.33169 D8511 GSYP D8512 GSYP (later in BNYP when at RTC) D8513 GSYP/BFYE D8514 BFYE D8515 GFYE D8516 GSYP http://www.rail-onli...7f3eab&type=800 D8519 GSYP 27/2/71 Polmadie D8520 BFYE D8521 GSYP D8522 BFYE D8523 BFYE D8524 BFYE D8525 BFYE D8526 BFYE D8527 BFYE D8528 GFYE D8529 BFYE D8530 GSYP D8531 GSYP D8532 BFYE D8534 BFYE D8535 BFYE D8536 GFYE 5/8/73 Glasgow Works D8537 GSYP http://www.brdatabas...=8537&loco=8537 D8538 BFYE D8539 GFYE D8540 BFYE D8541 GFYE D8542 BFYE D8543 BFYE D8545 BFYE D8546 GFYE D8548 GFYE - Polmadie 04/74 D8549 GSYP - D8550 BFYE Polmadie ref.32172 D8551 GFYE no D - Glasgow Works 08/75 D8552 GFYE 5/8/73 Glasgow Works D8554 GSYP 14/2/70 Polmadie, Railscot ref.32249 D8556 BFYE D8557 BFYE D8558 GFYE no D - 09/71 D8559 GFYE D8560 GSYP D8561 GFYE D8562 GFYE 14/2/70 Polmadie, Railscot ref.32326 D8563 GFYE no D - Glasgow Works 05/75 D8564 BFYE D8565 BFYE D8566 BFYE D8567 BFYE D8568 GFYE D8570 BFYE - Birds, Long Marston '69 D8571 BFYE D8572 GSYP - Bescot '69 D8573 BFYE 5/8/73 Polmadie D8574 BFYE 23/12/68 Hawick, Railscot ref.33572 D8577 BFYE D8579 GFYE D8580 BFYE 13/10/70 Niddrie, Railscot ref.32912 D8582 BFYE D8583 BFYE 23/4/73 Glasgow Works D8584 BFYE D8585 BFYE D8586 GFYE D8587 GSYP Niddrie 1971, Railscot D8588 GSYP D8590 GSYP Newcastle 30/9/70, Railscot D8591 GSYP D8592 GFYE D8593 GFYE 23/4/73 Glasgow Works D8595 GFYE D8597 GFYE D8598 GFYE (BFYE by 21/8/72 at LO, GFYE at withdrawal 31/12/71) D8600 GSYP D8601 GFYE D8605 GSYP Drapers, Hull, 1970 D8606 BFYE 5/11/69 Millerhill D8607 GFYE D8608 GFYE 4/2/70 Niddrie, Railscot ref.29089 D8610 GFYE D8612 GFYE 5/11/69 Millerhill, Railscot ref.27725 D8613 GFYE 5/8/73 Polmadie D8614 GFYE D8615 GFYE at HA in '70, here: http://www.railbrit....te2.php?id=6551 D8616 GFYE 4/75 Dundee Only 25 missing now, that's 92 down, we're over two-thirds through the class, good work! Shameless bounce for Clayton data request purposes. Can anyone with access or links to more recently posted material on the web, help us out with the final 24 bits of info to help complete the class? For ease of reference, missing last liveries are required for: 8501 w/d 10/68 8506 w/d 9/71 8509 GSYP in photo 8/10/67, withdrawn 10/68 - did she receive attention in her last year? 8517 w/d 10/68 8518 GSYP in photo 4/67, withdrawn 10/68 - did she receive attention in her last 18 months? 8533 w/d 10/68 8544 w/d 6/69 8547 w/d 2/69 8553 w/d 10/68 8555 w/d 9/71 8569 w/d 12/68 8575 w/d 10/68 8576 w/d 2/69 8578 w/d 6/69 8581 w/d 10/71 8589 w/d 7/70 from 52A 8594 w/d 9/71 8596 w/d 12/68 from 52A 8599 w/d 10/71 8602 w/d 10/71 8603 w/d 10/71 8604 w/d 10/71 8609 w/d 10/68 8611 w/d 10/68 Edited January 22, 2012 by 'CHARD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor H Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Now your delving into that last 20%, its certainty getting rather more difficult. Firstly some errors in you list, D8513 was GSY on withdrawl, D8514 was GFY on withdrawl, D8571 was GSY on withdrawl. Now going by photos i have and the numbers are legible, the following locos carried GSY livery at the end, D8509 D8537 D8604 D8611 As for the rest of the list, the following are reported as withdrawn in the following liveries, but i haven't seen any photographic proof, so best to take with a pinch of salt until someone comes up with the evidence D8501 BFY ?? D8506 GFY ?? D8517 GSY (probably) D8518 GSY (probably) D8533 GSY (probably) D8544 GSY (probably) D8547 GSY (probably) D8553 reported as GSY & BFY D8555 GSY (probably) D8569 GSY (probably) D8575 GSY (probably) D8578 GSY (probably) D8581 GFY ?? D8589 GFY (probably) D8594 GFY (but i believe it may of gone in GSY) D8596 GFY ?? D8599 GSY (probably) D8602 GFY ?? D8603 GSY (probably) D8609 GSY (probably) As i say the last section are only probables, but i hope it helps. Trevor 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted January 22, 2012 Author Share Posted January 22, 2012 Great stuff, Trevor, it does help. I shall update and amend the master list. The probables do seem to align with individual locos' allocation histories and withdrawal dates. And as they pretty much all err on the side of caution (green small yellow being the majority), it's unlikely the real faux pas of modelling a loco in BFYE when it went in green, will be perpetrated. Thanks again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted January 22, 2012 Author Share Posted January 22, 2012 (edited) D8500 BFYED8501 BFYED8502 BFYE http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=32603D8503 BFYE 8504 GFYE no D - Cashmores, Great Bridge 09/75D8505 GSYP 8506 GFYE 8507 BFYE 23/4/73 Glasgow Works 8508 GFYE 5/8/73 Glasgow WorksD8509 GSYPD8510 BFYE Kingmoor 1967 ref 31770, 13/10/70 Niddrie, Railscot ref.33169D8511 GSYPD8512 GSYP (later in BNYP when at RTC)D8513 GSYPD8514 GFYED8515 GFYED8516 GSYPD8517 GSYPD8518 GSYPD8519 GSYP 27/2/71 PolmadieD8520 BFYED8521 GSYPD8522 BFYED8523 BFYED8524 BFYED8525 BFYED8526 BFYED8527 BFYE 8528 GFYED8529 BFYED8530 GSYPD8531 GSYPD8532 BFYED8533 GSYPD8534 BFYED8535 BFYE 8536 GFYE 5/8/73 Glasgow WorksD8537 GSYPD8538 BFYE 8539 GFYED8540 BFYED8541 GFYED8542 BFYED8543 BFYED8544 GSYP 8545 BFYED8546 GFYED8547 GSYPD8548 GFYE - Polmadie 04/74D8549 GSYPD8550 BFYE Polmadie ref.32172 8551 GFYE no D - Glasgow Works 08/75 8552 GFYE 5/8/73 Glasgow WorksD8553 GSYPD8554 GSYP 14/2/70 Polmadie, Railscot ref.32249D8555 GSYPD8556 BFYED8557 BFYE 8558 GFYE no D - 09/71D8559 GFYED8560 GSYPD8561 GFYED8562 GFYE 14/2/70 Polmadie, Railscot ref.32326 8563 GFYE no D - Glasgow Works 05/75D8564 BFYED8565 BFYED8566 BFYED8567 BFYED8568 GFYED8569 GSYPD8570 BFYE - Birds, Long Marston '69D8571 GSYPD8572 GSYP - Bescot '69D8573 BFYE 5/8/73 PolmadieD8574 BFYE 23/12/68 Hawick, Railscot ref.33572D8575 GSYPD8576 GSYPD8577 BFYED8578 GSYP 8579 GFYED8580 BFYE 13/10/70 Niddrie, Railscot ref.32912D8581 GFYED8582 BFYED8583 BFYE 23/4/73 Glasgow WorksD8584 BFYED8585 BFYED8586 GFYED8587 GSYP Niddrie 1971, RailscotD8588 GSYPD8589 GFYED8590 GSYP Newcastle 30/9/70, RailscotD8591 GSYP 8592 GFYED8593 GFYE 23/4/73 Glasgow WorksD8594 GSYPD8595 GFYED8596 GFYE 8597 GFYED8598 GFYE (BFYE by 21/8/72 at LO, GFYE at withdrawal 31/12/71)D8599 GSYPD8600 GSYP 8601 GFYED8602 GFYED8603 GSYPD8604 GFYE (or GSYP)D8605 GSYP Drapers, Hull, 1970D8606 BFYE 5/11/69 MillerhillD8607 GFYED8608 GFYE 4/2/70 Niddrie, Railscot ref.29089D8609 GSYPD8610 GFYED8611 GSYPD8612 GFYE 5/11/69 Millerhill, Railscot ref.27725D8613 GFYE 5/8/73 PolmadieD8614 GFYED8615 GFYE at HA in '70, here: http://www.railbrit....te2.php?id=6551D8616 GFYE 4/75 Dundeeand, although they would never have been in traffic in the livery ratio in which the class ended its days, the above suggests 39 locos made it to BFYE, another 39 received FYE on green, and the last 39 were never repainted. If that is the case, it's some coincidence!EDIT: recent shots discovered (see post made 02/11/12) indicate that D8611 received BFYE, D8604 GFYE but D8553 and D8594 remained GSYP, Edited May 5, 2016 by 'CHARD 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUTTLEY Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Hymeks could be BSYP and BSYPWW D7007 and 7051 were BSYP without the white window surrounds. D7004 also carried BSYP without white window surrounds, but not for as long as the other two. I have a pic dated "1966" without white surrounds and Brush Veteran has one dated March 1967 WITH white surrounds. This is the only pic I've seen of this loco sans surrounds, so I wonder if there were any more that "slipped through the net" by only carrying the livery for a very short time. Rgds, Ron. Rgds, Ron. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUTTLEY Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 (edited) and, although they would never have been in traffic in the livery ratio in which the class ended its days, the above suggests 39 locos made it to BFYE, another 39 received FYE on green, and the last 39 were never repainted. If that is the case, it's some coincidence! If I can "fine tune" one or two of these; 8508 was GFYE no "D" on scrapping. 8536 " " " " " " 8539 same 8552 DITTO 8579 and again 8597 another 8601 yup 8506 GFYE (no "D") Motherwell Sep1970 8507 BFYE (no "D") 17May1975 GWKS 8528 GFYE (no "D") 1970 Millerhill 8545 BFYE (no "D") 5Sep1970 Motherwell 8592 GFYE (no "D") Aug 1971 Eastfield 8601 GFYE (no "D") 1971 Haymarket I have a few more to look at, but hope these are some use to be going on with.... Cheers, Ron. Edited February 4, 2012 by 'CHARD 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUTTLEY Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 It appears that D5701 and D5708 were the only two exceptions. All other examples were withdrawn in GSYP.My link Edit: As far as I can see, that is correct. I cannot accept responsibility for dud info, however. D5707 definately GFYE as well. R. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUTTLEY Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Sorry if it's been mentioned before (I haven't had time to go through ALL the posts), but D8242 was GSYP with BR Arrows at least up to mid-1970. R. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor H Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 (edited) Sorry if it's been mentioned before (I haven't had time to go through ALL the posts), but D8242 was GSYP with BR Arrows at least up to mid-1970. R. Like Ron haven't looked back through the posts to see if already mentioned, but D8243 also carried the small BR arrows like D8242, but with full yellow ends. Trevor. Edited January 30, 2012 by Trevor H Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted February 4, 2012 Author Share Posted February 4, 2012 Class 22 Details Ok this thread will I'm sure be an evolving monster, but I've made a start compiling details on liveries. See the attached Excel spreadsheet that contains details on all class 22 liveries, introduction, withdrawal and dates cut and where. Needless to say the thread will be edited on a regular basis to amend inaccuracies and provide up to date links to photos on the web. There were some links to photos which I weeded out, many were links to defunct fotopic galleries (huge shame especially photos from Keith Miller and Ken Baker). Material to follow will include front end detail variation (grab rail positions, headcode boxes, eyebrow vents etc), but I've got to draw some pretty pictures first. Patience is a virtue I will get there! Eventually I am aiming to publish a book (huge gestation time though) on diesel variations, but as I'm sure everyone is aware getting the facts 100% right is quite a challenge. Livery details with dates, Dates introduced and withdrawn, scrapping . Class 22 2.xls References : Dapol class 22 Thread Personal research (fotopic, flickr and other galleries, Robert Stokes, Baby Blues Western Power magazine, Vol 1 pp26-30. Brian Reed (1974) Diesel-hydraulic locomotives of the Western Region, David & Charles Huge thanks to our colleague for posting this over on the Class 22 thread. I hope you don't mind me repeating it here. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted February 4, 2012 Author Share Posted February 4, 2012 Unusual to see a Clayton at a Scottish shed in the company of a TOPS loco! Dundee, 37146 and a long-term resident. Quite possibly the only 'normal' Clayton I may have seen (didn't start recording numbers until '76). http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltic_baggie/6045359982/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor H Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Unusual to see a Clayton at a Scottish shed in the company of a TOPS loco! Dundee, 37146 and a long-term resident. Quite possibly the only 'normal' Clayton I may have seen (didn't start recording numbers until '76). http://www.flickr.co...gie/6045359982/ I remember seeing that, it was parked by the coal staithes during 75. I remember they roped the door up, but the other door was unlocked so you could still cab it, wasn't it used for re-railing exercises. I guess the other one that could be seen with TOPS locos would be 8539, which was still at Eastfield in 1975 and their were still some at Polmadie in 1974. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennine MC Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 I have a couple of shots which I've posted before, of 8616 with an 06 at DE and 8539 at ED with a 27. The ones kept at Glasgow Works would also have been not too far from TOPsed locos 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted November 2, 2012 Author Share Posted November 2, 2012 (edited) New discoveries! D8501 was BFYE on sub-allocation from 12A to 12E, seen here as the Claytons ousted steam on the bank, 30/12/67. They even look specially tidied up for their new duties: http://www.flickr.co...N08/6877321426/ What a fantastic shot! Tynesider D8604 got as far as GFYE by 1970 according to this: http://www.railbrit....te.php?id=40617 and 8581 also in GFYE seen at Waverley in '71: http://www.railbrit....te.php?id=39444 D8594 still in GSYP in '70: http://www.railbrit....te.php?id=33547 D8611 made it to BFYE, the highest numbered to do so, and a rarity from the BP batch along with celeb D8606: http://www.flickr.co...r24/5373523029/ and last for now, D8518 at Carnforth in what is believed to have been its final livery: http://www.flickr.com/photos/stuart_martin_24j/8069867295/in/photostream/ Edited November 2, 2012 by 'CHARD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 40-something Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Hi Folks With the wealth of info on this forum, Im going to ask a wild one... Does any one have a photo of D8545 on 7 Oct 1970? Reason I ask is its the one Clayton I have, renumbered, and its my date of birth. Failing that, does anyone have a phot of any Clatyton on that date? May facilitate me buying another one!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted November 4, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 4, 2012 joe, haven't found one so specific, but post #58 above mentions "8545 BFYE (no "D") 5Sep1970 Motherwell" found a couple of pics on flickr (sorry if these have been linked to before) of 8545 still in BFYE in 1972 http://www.flickr.com/photos/robmcrorie/5343527904/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/robertcwp/2149377675/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted November 4, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 4, 2012 D8406 definitely bit the dust in GFYE: Anyone care to guess the location of this picture? Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted November 5, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 5, 2012 I believe its at Gloucester en-route to Cashmores for scrapping. Very warm!!!! But not quite... Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted November 5, 2012 Author Share Posted November 5, 2012 It's not Worcester by any chance? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Every time I see this thread title I think its about locos that fail to transition from series to parallel... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Luton? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted November 5, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 5, 2012 Chard gets it - its Worcester! In the yard behind the up platforms. Was the only one cut up at Birds, Long Marston. There was a daily freight twixt Worcester and Stratford so bet it came down it that. Phil 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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